Kevin Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 2 hours ago, Pete said: I wouldn't buy a Shesty jersey, to be honest. I can't see a world where they go down the same path they did with Lundqvist where they basically said before the ink was dry "We had no choice." Exactly my point. I’d imagine every GM in the league would rather due a Panarin contract then a Lundqvist contract. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Kevin said: No knock on Shesty at all. Best goalie in the league and I get what he brings but if I’m paying $10 million on a player, it can’t be on a goalie. I’m saying that a great defensive system can make a mediocre goalie (like georgiev) still be good enough to get a team deep into the playoffs. If that’s what Lav is developing here, then shesty’s next contract becomes overpriced and unnecessary. Bingo. It's like the guy who's pressing bumpers is never going to make as much money as the software engineer who's building the car's computer. It's not that the bumper isn't important, It's that you can only make so much money pressing bumpers. Just like you should only be willing to pay so much money playing a position where even if the player was perfect and never give up a goal.... cannot win you a game, the best you could hope for is a 0-0 tie because goaltending can't put pucks in nets. Edited November 10, 2023 by Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Br4d Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 The way you avoid giving out a huge contract to your excellent goalie is having a new excellent goalie good to go when you have to make the decision. If Dylan Garand looks like he's 98% of Igor Shesterkin when the time comes the decision will be easy. However he needs to be that in the next 6 months because nobody is trading for Shesterkin in the last year of his contract knowing that they'll have to pay him through the nose when he goes free. It's easy to say that a goalie is not worth a huge contract but it is much harder to be the GM who lets that guy go without having a clear replacement in hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash or Czech Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 (edited) Shesty for Draisaitl. Who says no? Both GMs, the salary cap, and probably Shesty (10-team NTC) Edited November 10, 2023 by Cash or Czech Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieNextel305 Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 If only Domingue, it must mean one of Igor or Quick are good to go Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 15 minutes ago, RichieNextel305 said: If only Domingue, it must mean one of Igor or Quick are good to go Sunday. Igor should be good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieNextel305 Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 Different colored helmets. 3rd jersey incoming? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 The helmets match the color of those jerseys that were leaked recently. I bet they get officially unveiled during ther break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 Whats the max you would pay for Shesty? I think no more than $6M per year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieNextel305 Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 He’s over $6M per year right now. Since he signed the contract, he’s taken us to an ECF, and won the Vezina. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 Just now, RichieNextel305 said: He’s over $6M per year right now. Since he signed the contract, he’s taken us to an ECF, and won the Vezina. He is? I thought he was a lot cheaper. Wtf? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long live the King Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 He's just under 5.7. Give him 9x6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddious Posted November 11, 2023 Author Share Posted November 11, 2023 21 minutes ago, Long live the King said: He's just under 5.7. Give him 9x6. And then pass me whatever drugs you guys are on because clearly they’re fucking awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 Shesterkin isn’t taking less than 7 years, and the Rangers would probably have to go 8 years just to keep him from hitting the market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 He’s going to want north of $9 million per. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 9 minutes ago, RangersIn7 said: He’s going to want north of $9 million per. Unless the bottom drops out of all of this and we start selling and have a lot of cap space, absolutely no way a winning team can spend $9 million on that position. And don't say Tampa Bay, they've been managing the cap through LTIR for three or four seasons now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 Henrik Lundqvist’s contract cost 12.3% of the cap (8.5m / 69M cap 2014, 1st year of contract). The cap when Igor’s next contract starts is currently projected at $92M. 12.3% = $11.3M. When we say avoid a Lundqvist contract, it’s at that hit. $9M is less than 10% of the cap and would be an excellent deal. That’s one I would support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJWantsTheCup Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 8x8 might get it done and be ok for both sides. Of course I hope he signs for less. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 33 minutes ago, BrooksBurner said: Henrik Lundqvist’s contract cost 12.3% of the cap (8.5m / 69M cap 2014, 1st year of contract). The cap when Igor’s next contract starts is currently projected at $92M. 12.3% = $11.3M. When we say avoid a Lundqvist contract, it’s at that hit. $9M is less than 10% of the cap and would be an excellent deal. That’s one I would support. Lundqvists contract is irrelevant as it pretty much handicapped from adding anybody who could score a goal. Teams are winning with 5M goalies. It's great to have the best goalie in the world but it's cost control, but you don't need the best goalie in the world to win a Stanley cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJWantsTheCup Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 Quick practiced today so maybe he plays tomorrow night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 1 hour ago, Pete said: Unless the bottom drops out of all of this and we start selling and have a lot of cap space, absolutely no way a winning team can spend $9 million on that position. And don't say Tampa Bay, they've been managing the cap through LTIR for three or four seasons now. I don’t think they can go super high on him either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 20 minutes ago, Pete said: Lundqvists contract is irrelevant as it pretty much handicapped from adding anybody who could score a goal. Teams are winning with 5M goalies. It's great to have the best goalie in the world but it's cost control, but you don't need the best goalie in the world to win a Stanley cup. I agree, but the argument would be that $9M is not in that handicap range. It’s probably about the max before the cost outweighs the benefit. There’s a lot of variables too. Would money saved be going towards quality scorers or overpaying for mediocre ones who won’t live up to their contract because that’s all that’s available? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 18 minutes ago, BrooksBurner said: I agree, but the argument would be that $9M is not in that handicap range. It’s probably about the max before the cost outweighs the benefit. There’s a lot of variables too. Would money saved be going towards quality scorers or overpaying for mediocre ones who won’t live up to their contract because that’s all that’s available? They need to compartmentalize it. How much are you willing to spend on X position? Survey says the entire position shouldn't cost you more than maybe $8M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karan Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 (edited) Nice touch Edited November 11, 2023 by Karan 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 17 minutes ago, Karan said: Nice touch Coaching 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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