Br4d Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 2 minutes ago, Pete said: There was no coaching for the last two years. That's part of the problem also. This is such a bullshit line at this point. You can argue that GG and his staff weren't as forceful and demanding as Laviolette and his staff have been and I'm all in with you but suggesting that GG and company weren't trying to get the players to do something different is completely off. We hear GG say over and over again in post-game pressers that the players knew what they had to do. The unsaid part was that they weren't doing it. Now we see the Rangers going off script against other teams and suffering for it and we know what GG was dealing with. BTW, this post-season interview period will be interesting if the Rangers have troubles again. Can't go back to blaming the coach for the third coach in a row because Drury won't be listening to that he'll be taking notes on who has to go and nobody will be off-limits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 20 minutes ago, Br4d said: We hear GG say over and over again in post-game pressers that the players knew what they had to do. The unsaid part was that they weren't doing it. I'm sure he certainly believed that, but it apparently wasn't the case, and it's been well reported. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 1 hour ago, Pete said: The only way this is going to work is if they split every power play, or the first power play goes to PP1 for 1:40, the next power play goes to PP2 for 1:40, etc. And what does Lavi do for the next powerplay if the first power play unit on the ice nets a goal, or what does he do if one of the powerplay units is clearly more successful than the other? You can't keep Panarin or Fox off the main PP unit long term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 11 minutes ago, BrooksBurner said: And what does Lavi do for the next powerplay if the first power play unit on the ice nets a goal, or what does he do if one of the powerplay units is clearly more successful than the other? You can't keep Panarin or Fox off the main PP unit long term. Well that stuff will all work itself out. With one unit isn't successful then they will distinguish themselves as the second unit. You'd have to think that right off the bat, whichever unit has Panarin is actually the first unit. This is the second thing that has me scratching my head regarding Laviolette (The first is him not separating MZ and CK), I don't think that this is a move you make in practice and that you revamp the whole unit. I think you tell the power play that if they don't shoot after the third pass, they're not going to play. Then you start removing the offending parties one by one during the game. The thing about the way these units are constructed is that I'm not sure anybody has a real role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 3 minutes ago, Pete said: Well that stuff will all work itself out. With one unit isn't successful then they will distinguish themselves as the second unit. You'd have to think that right off the bat, whichever unit has Panarin is actually the first unit. This is the second thing that has me scratching my head regarding Laviolette (The first is him not separating MZ and CK), I don't think that this is a move you make in practice and that you revamp the whole unit. I think you tell the power play that if they don't shoot after the third pass, they're not going to play. Then you start removing the offending parties one by one during the game. The thing about the way these units are constructed is that I'm not sure anybody has a real role. It should have started with removing Trocheck. I mentioned the other day to remove Trocheck for Lafreniere, and put Zibanejad in a floating role to look for different angles to free himself up for a shot. Everyone knows him sitting there waiting for a one timer on the left boards is a stale play. Panarin goes back to the left boards where he always was during his career, including when he first started with the Rangers, and Lafreniere goes to the right. This version of Panarin who shoots the puck is much more well suited to be able to walk in from the left boards and have that shooting angle. Kreider Panarin-Zibanejad-Lafreniere Fox Zibanejad could look for one timers by floating between the middle slot, low right side below Panarin, and the point. The left board spot where the one timer was being taken might have been stale, but the quality of the one timer is not. It is a wicked weapon to have, but he's got to have some freedom to rotate around and find more open spots on the ice for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 1 hour ago, BreakawayMachine said: This has been a problem for decades it seems. Hell I remember Christopher Reeve's even giving a speech during some award ceremony at MSG and him saying he yells "shoot!" at the TV. Its such an ingrained problem here. Always looking for fancy passes instead of throwing pucks at the net. LOL I remember that!! He's not alone! I do it all night long as well. Fucking team is so frustrating when they pull that shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 1 hour ago, BrooksBurner said: It should have started with removing Trocheck. I mentioned the other day to remove Trocheck for Lafreniere, and put Zibanejad in a floating role to look for different angles to free himself up for a shot. Everyone knows him sitting there waiting for a one timer on the left boards is a stale play. Panarin goes back to the left boards where he always was during his career, including when he first started with the Rangers, and Lafreniere goes to the right. This version of Panarin who shoots the puck is much more well suited to be able to walk in from the left boards and have that shooting angle. Kreider Panarin-Zibanejad-Lafreniere Fox Zibanejad could look for one timers by floating between the middle slot, low right side below Panarin, and the point. The left board spot where the one timer was being taken might have been stale, but the quality of the one timer is not. It is a wicked weapon to have, but he's got to have some freedom to rotate around and find more open spots on the ice for it. I've got no problem with this, and I think the strategy is there except you've got Gus and Kakko out there too. There's some part of me that thinks Lavvy grouped a lot of guys who are willing to shoot on one power play and a lot of guys who aren't willing to shoot on the other one. He'll probably go out there and say "which one do you think will have more success?" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieNextel305 Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 (edited) Dallas helps the Rangers out with a regulation win over Carolina. Thanks for the help fellas. Never too early to look at the Out Of Town Scoreboard. Edited February 14 by RichieNextel305 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 27 minutes ago, RichieNextel305 said: Dallas helps the Rangers out with a regulation win over Carolina. Thanks for the help fellas. Never too early to look at the Out Of Town Scoreboard. I was literally doing the same thing and had the same thought! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 9 hours ago, RichieNextel305 said: Dallas helps the Rangers out with a regulation win over Carolina. Thanks for the help fellas. Never too early to look at the Out Of Town Scoreboard. This is around the time where I start really looking at what's going on. Dallas did us a huge solid last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ozzy Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 (edited) 1 hour ago, RichieNextel305 said: No doubt he's over-emotionally touched by Mika's Valentine's Day gift! Edited February 14 by Ozzy 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 20 minutes ago, Ozzy said: No doubt he's over-emotionally touched by Mika's Valentine's Day gift! I think Lavi yelled at him yesterday to play little harder, so CK needed safe space for a day to get all his emotions in order 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 36 minutes ago, Ozzy said: No doubt he's over-emotionally touched by Mika's Valentine's Day gift! Nah, he's sad that Mika is spending today with the wife and kid, so no spooning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 40 minutes ago, Pete said: Nah, he's sad that Mika is spending today with the wife and kid, so no spooning. ahhh, he's butt hurt! (Lower body injury, I mean!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 29 minutes ago, Albatrosss said: I think Lavi yelled at him yesterday to play little harder, so CK needed safe space for a day to get all his emotions in order Undoubtedly the same space Steven Seagal occupies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sod16 Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 2 hours ago, Ozzy said: ahhh, he's butt hurt! (Lower body injury, I mean!) And with that, "Lower Body Injury" official becomes code on the board! (For example: "this guy has suffered more Lower Body Injuries than any player since Dennis Potvin") 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 (edited) Edited February 14 by Scott 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Heaven Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 6 hours ago, RichieNextel305 said: Too much booze last night at Casino Night? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsm7302 Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 13 minutes ago, Scott said: Just hit the little reset button in front of the pp unit or clean out the cobwebs. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 22 minutes ago, Scott said: So was CK on the ice or not? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddious Posted February 14 Author Share Posted February 14 1 hour ago, Scott said: If you read between the lines what he’s actually saying is “I was hammered when I put wheeler and brodzinski on PP1” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RJWantsTheCup Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 Belzile recalled today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 8 hours ago, RangersIn7 said: Undoubtedly the same space Steven Seagal occupies. I think Steve Segal is in Russia. They love him overthere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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