Pete Posted January 6, 2023 Author Share Posted January 6, 2023 3 hours ago, josh said: You even quoted me saying he’s underperforming yesterday. of course we want more. Why have I been suggesting PP time in hopes to boost his confidence for the last 3 years? Why have I been repeating “put the kids in a place to be successful” for longer than that? It’s obviously to unlock their potential, not because I don’t like Zibanejad scoring on the PP This reply has absolutely nothing to do with the post you quoted. I'll just take the W and move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted January 6, 2023 Author Share Posted January 6, 2023 4 hours ago, The Dude said: The problem with using the Carolina offer sheet as an example, us that an offer sheet to Lafrenière wouldn't have to be as big of an overpayment. The Rangers would be screwed if anyone offers 3.5- 4.5, because they probably wouldn't be able to match. Then risk of the compensation is so low, that it is worth it to a bottom barrel team. If a crap team can add a recent 1OA, who really needs a change of scenery, by overpayment by a mill and only have to forfeit a 2nd and 3rd round pick. Why the he'll not? I don't think anybody cares about his first overall pedigree outside of Rangers fans. He stinks. He stunk tonight too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art20c Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 41 minutes ago, Pete said: I don't think anybody cares about his first overall pedigree outside of Rangers fans. He stinks. He stunk tonight too. Stunk big time. At his home crowd. Just invisible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddious Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 I would love someone to offer sheet Laf lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 10 minutes ago, siddious said: I would love someone to offer sheet Laf lol No. No. No more prospects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistol Pete Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 Agreed…I’ve been saying it since last year…he does very little of consequence out there. Yes, on the score sheet, he seems to be on par with Chytil and Kakko…however, look at puck possession, forechecking, back checking, battles in the corner, carrying it through the neutral zone…Kakko is clearly the best of the bunch…he’s also playing against the other teams’ top lines unlike Laffy and Chytil…Chytil probably gets the most bang for the chances he gets. Kakko gets the most opportunities just by shear hard work…I see it paying off for him eventually. Laffy, on the other hand, doesn’t leave anyone in the dust…can’t break away from anyone, loses every battle in the corner or along the boards; barely carries the puck anywhere…catch, release, and disappear…just looks like the rest of the game is too fast for him. You’d think he kick it up in front of the fam and home crowd….that’s not a good sign. I feel bad for him. I just don’t see the light at the end of the tunnel for him…I ran into my wall at D1 hockey, so I’m empathetic…I dominated in juniors and got crushed at D1 from day 1 and never caught up…tanked like a dead fish…hope he finds something soon…as long as the Rangers are winning, I don’t think they get rid of him, but if they are one or two players from a championship team, he may have to pack his bags… 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddious Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, josh said: No. No. No more prospects. I mean realistically they always need good young talent coming into the organization especially with the Terrible contracts they have given out. And who knows maybe another couple of first rounders and they might be able to make a decent choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 1 minute ago, siddious said: I mean realistically they always need good young talent coming into the organization especially with the Terrible contracts they have given out. And who knows maybe another couple of first rounders and they might be able to make a decent choice. No. No more picks and prospects why? Why would you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddious Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 6 minutes ago, josh said: No. No more picks and prospects why? Why would you? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 Sam and Joe sure have been pumping him up lately. They haven't said he's been invisible, or that he has to do better. Just exaggeration of how good he does on any play. When they do this, I always think its because the player is on the outs or has asked out. Kinda wagging the dog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsm7302 Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 Anything Chicago could offer in the Kane trade that would make sending Laf worth it? (Obviously referring to young developing talent) I'm not too familiar with their org. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valriera Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 1 hour ago, jsm7302 said: Anything Chicago could offer in the Kane trade that would make sending Laf worth it? (Obviously referring to young developing talent) I'm not too familiar with their org. Most certainly not unless it’s their first this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindG1000 Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 1 hour ago, jsm7302 said: Anything Chicago could offer in the Kane trade that would make sending Laf worth it? (Obviously referring to young developing talent) I'm not too familiar with their org. They're still at the early stages of a teardown. The single most valuable asset in the org is the 2023 1st rounder. Couple of decent prospects coming up (Reichel, Korchinski, Del Mastro, Allen) but really...not much high caliber there yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsm7302 Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 5 minutes ago, LindG1000 said: They're still at the early stages of a teardown. The single most valuable asset in the org is the 2023 1st rounder. Couple of decent prospects coming up (Reichel, Korchinski, Del Mastro, Allen) but really...not much high caliber there yet. You think they would take our two firsts and Laf for their current first and Kane? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindG1000 Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 3 minutes ago, jsm7302 said: You think they would take our two firsts and Laf for their current first and Kane? I don't think there's a snowballs chance in hell they move that 1st. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, LindG1000 said: I don't think there's a snowballs chance in hell they move that 1st. That first could be Berard...especially if they sell off Kane and Toewes at the deadline. Edited January 6, 2023 by Ozzy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash or Czech Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 Nail Yakupov was moved for Zach Pochiro and Cameron Crotty. Fantastic return, two household names. If that's any indication, I see it out and hope Laf has a Kakko-like redemption arc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 1 hour ago, Cash or Czech said: Nail Yakupov was moved for Zach Pochiro and Cameron Crotty. Fantastic return, two household names. If that's any indication, I see it out and hope Laf has a Kakko-like redemption arc. Kakko has 1 more point in 1 more game played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJWantsTheCup Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 I would be surprised if Lafraniere gets traded anytime soon. His value is currently too low to get anything worthwhile right now so they might as well hope he will still develop into something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted January 6, 2023 Author Share Posted January 6, 2023 3 minutes ago, josh said: Kakko has 1 more point in 1 more game played. Kakko is 10x the player Lafreniere is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash or Czech Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 18 minutes ago, josh said: Kakko has 1 more point in 1 more game played. Laf has 4 assists in his last 10 games and isn't getting moved up to from the 3rd line anytime soon based on merit. Kakko has played across the lineup and is showing he belongs on the 1st line, while also having 4 goals and 5 assists in his last 11 between the kid line and top line. Totals, I agree. But when you watch them, you see that Kakko can play on a 1st line no problem. Lafreniere is a borderline third liner right now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindG1000 Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 2 hours ago, Cash or Czech said: Nail Yakupov was moved for Zach Pochiro and Cameron Crotty. Fantastic return, two household names. If that's any indication, I see it out and hope Laf has a Kakko-like redemption arc. I just don't see those two in the same light, though. Yakupov was a constant flight risk and a known diva. He couldn't play effectively down lineup. Lafreniere hasn't got those flags on him. By all accounts, he's a good teammate, a team guy, a smart guy, etc. We haven't got good reason to believe otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsm7302 Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 Just throwing this out there but ...Kravtsov has been more noticeable than Laf in the recent handful of games. He carries the puck and has been creating plays. Laf has looked.....lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karan Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 16 minutes ago, jsm7302 said: Just throwing this out there but ...Kravtsov has been more noticeable than Laf in the recent handful of games. He carries the puck and has been creating plays. Laf has looked.....lost. Great observation. Never noticed that at all so far. You should join the MSG crew, they could use insight like that on the broadcasts. Sorry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 32 minutes ago, jsm7302 said: Just throwing this out there but ...Kravtsov has been more noticeable than Laf in the recent handful of games. He carries the puck and has been creating plays. Laf has looked.....lost. He's definitely gaining momentum. So he's due for another vaginal type of injury. Repatriation is needed for the young players. Including Lafrenière. Kravtsov just needs to play and be given a long leash. Gallant gave him that last night after that bad penalty. I was surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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