Pete Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 6 hours ago, Bugg said: This guy who supposedly hates Euros just gave Zib and Igor huge long term contracts, has Nemeth as 3rd pair D, kept Lundqvist and Hajek over Jones, and kept Georgiev over Kincaid as 2nd G. Right. The more likely scenario...Drury hates lazy whiners. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 This thread has gone downhill fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsm7302 Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 Always 2 sides to a story. Seems to me like they didn't conduct any interviews with this kid prior to selecting him. Wierd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted October 21, 2021 Author Share Posted October 21, 2021 11 hours ago, Pete said: Yes! The post I was waiting for. Even though Drury first year as a Ranger, and Hollwegs last. And Rissmiller played 2 games as a Ranger. We've gone full heel now boys! Drury forced out all the Euros! Even though he won a Cup on the back for Forsberg and Hejduk! Tracks perfectly with those stellar Sabres' clubs he lead, too, with such notable North American names as Maxim Afinogenov, Jochen Hecht, Dmitri Kalinin, Ales Kotalik, Toni Lydman, Teppo Numminen, Jaro Spacek, Dainus Zubrus, and Thomas Vanek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 (edited) 46 minutes ago, Phil said: Tracks perfectly with those stellar Sabres' clubs he lead, too, with such notable North American names as Maxim Afinogenov, Jochen Hecht, Dmitri Kalinin, Ales Kotalik, Toni Lydman, Teppo Numminen, Jaro Spacek, Dainus Zubrus, and Thomas Vanek. I don't recall saying he had a problem with Euro players. Just preferred grit over skill. Jesus. Do I really have to unblock Pete and engage in this? .. I named a bunch of players and said "and other garbage ". No where did I fucking say any chronological order of the piles of dog shit that were brought in. Please show me where I said anything about Euros? ,"Show me receipts" Edited October 21, 2021 by The Dude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted October 21, 2021 Author Share Posted October 21, 2021 Or, he prefers work ethic over the lack of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Kevin said: This thread has gone downhill fast. It’s a representation of Rangers and their prospects potential 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonybologna Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 1 hour ago, The Dude said: I don't recall saying he had a problem with Euro players. Just preferred grit over skill. Jesus. Do I really have to unblock Pete and engage in this? .. I named a bunch of players and said "and other garbage ". No where did I fucking say any chronological order of the piles of dog shit that were brought in. Please show me where I said anything about Euros? ,"Show me receipts" Yeah I’ve only seen this whole “Drury out to get Euros” thing come from people defending Drury, may as well use this as a textbook example of a straw man argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBrowningPI Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 I'm sure this was talked about already but why did the FO arrange a team bonding trip and then tell VK that he alone would not be going? They must have known this would piss off any player. I just can't believe a minor injury is an accurate justification for that. ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 Perhaps he does not enjoy bondage. It's not for everybody. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 On 10/19/2021 at 7:41 PM, TwoMinutesForNothing said: We never got all of the details on what went on with Andersson, but he made it clear he was bullied in Hartford. Then his father came out and said he would never let his son play for the Rangers organization again. What players would bully him? Would players, who are temporary, cause him to say he'd want out of the whole organization? Or would it make more sense if it was a more permanent part of the org that made him feel this way? Speculation, but chances are that was Drury as well. Perhaps he has some preconceived notion about Euros being soft and goes out of his way to prove his own narrative. It certainly fits with the rest of his moves and decisions. Buchnevich out, hard nosed Blais in. These are children at this point. Sorry some are not as mentally tough as we'd prefer right now, but they are 18, 19, 20 years old. It is the job of the organization to nurture and grow them into what they need to be and it is imperative to recognize that for some, tough love may not be the answer. Players respond differently to different handling. That's two top 10 picks thrown away because they felt so strongly about how they were treated by the people at the top of our org. We screwed it up. That is a very back look. Here you go 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Capt said: Here you go Define "bullying". Not saying it did not happen, I have no idea. But a boss telling a non hacker entry level young employee to get his ass in gear is not "bullying". It's life in a workplace. Of course, we all recall Drury calling Briere, Jagr, Forsberg and Sakic pussies on a daily basis. Edited October 21, 2021 by Bugg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 Yeah, two sides to every story indeed. But, it just seems like everything, even something like constructive criticism is considered bullying now. Just a lot of thin skin. I think both the Rangers and VK could have done things better, but Vitaly just needed to put his head down and go to Hartford and get some minutes. Jones was very clearly upset about going back down, but he put it in stride. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted October 21, 2021 Author Share Posted October 21, 2021 48 minutes ago, Tonybologna said: Yeah I’ve only seen this whole “Drury out to get Euros” thing come from people defending Drury, may as well use this as a textbook example of a straw man argument. Wrong. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 5 hours ago, The Dude said: Do I really have to unblock Pete and engage in this? I mean you can try. You haven't done a good job so far LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonybologna Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 3 hours ago, Phil said: Wrong. I see one post from one poster suggesting Drury stereotypes Euros as soft players which may have led to some decisions, and then I see a bunch of posts still harping on that one post and exaggerating it to the point of morphing the original point into "Drury hates Euros", "Drury forced out all the Euros". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Phil Posted October 21, 2021 Author Share Posted October 21, 2021 5 minutes ago, Tonybologna said: I see one post from one poster suggesting Drury stereotypes Euros as soft players which may have led to some decisions, and then I see a bunch of posts still harping on that one post and exaggerating it to the point of morphing the original point into "Drury hates Euros", "Drury forced out all the Euros". I mean, I'll give you that, but the fact remains, you were exactly wrong about the premise of why that happened. It wasn't Drury-defenders who introduced this narrative at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonybologna Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 11 minutes ago, Phil said: I mean, I'll give you that, but the fact remains, you were exactly wrong about the premise of why that happened. It wasn't Drury-defenders who introduced this narrative at all. Yeah, my bad on that. I figured it came from somewhere but I meant what I said literally, just that I had only seen it from the Drury-defenders. I didn't think it was plucked from nowhere, I just felt like wherever it came from that the absence of anyone arguing that he IS out to get Euros has all these other posts in straw man territory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted October 21, 2021 Author Share Posted October 21, 2021 It grew legs because this conversation has become a battlefield with firmly entrenched sides — a direct reflection of the Kravtsov-NYR relationship, I'd argue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 #SoftEuros!! NEver let it diiieee!!!!!11 But, yes, this has gone on too long methinks. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted October 21, 2021 Author Share Posted October 21, 2021 I mean, we're just waiting on the final resolution (trade). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long live the King Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Tonybologna said: I see one post from one poster suggesting Drury stereotypes Euros as soft players which may have led to some decisions, and then I see a bunch of posts still harping on that one post and exaggerating it to the point of morphing the original point into "Drury hates Euros", "Drury forced out all the Euros". I mean, you tell me how logical people are supposed to interpret this: "The scary part is, he's brought in NOTHING BUT grit, bottom line players and D men, while dumping 2 top line skill guys. Drafted that way too. Seemed to attract these types of players in his years as Rangers Captain. We saw the team switch from pure skill with Jagr [Euro] and the boys [Euros Nylander and Straka?], to complete dogshit with Gomez, Drury Brashear, Hollweg, Rissmiller [All North Americans] and tons of other garbage. Eventually landing Gaborik [Euro] and building a hockey team as he was pushed out the door by Torts and injuries." Edited October 21, 2021 by Long live the King 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaveByRichter35 Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 Way more important question than Krav being a pussy or Drury being a bully...why does @Tonybologna have a picture of @phillybas his avatar?? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted October 21, 2021 Author Share Posted October 21, 2021 Big fan. Duh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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