Keirik Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 Yes, and nobody blames the coach. But you seem really passionate about making sure Quinn is held accountable for something. Yeah. His role in all of this. What's wrong with thinking this isn't just about one thing, one day, and one person? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 Here is the situation organisation is in: They would like to keep the racial part quiet, but this will become a problem for Miller. It’s going to show they don’t care for racial stuff. I hope we don’t lose Miller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keirik Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 Here is the situation organisation is in: They would like to keep the racial part quiet, but this will become a problem for Miller. It’s going to show they don’t care for racial stuff. I hope we don’t lose Miller. Source??????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 Source??????? No source, my speculation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 Yeah. His role in all of this. What's wrong with thinking this isn't just about one thing, one day, and one person?It isn't about one thing one day and one person, it's about ADA everyday and how everyone around him feels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 This whole shit is crazy. Too bad they weren’t doing some documentary filming for this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 It isn't about one thing one day and one person, it's about ADA everyday and how everyone around him feels. We don’t know how they feels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew a Penalty Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 Fair and I partly agree. Honestly though, can anyone with a straight face say they thought his benching and sitting in the press box 2 periods into the season was going to be met positively at all? I get that's on ADA too but to me that shows your history is bright in even if it's a new season and clean slats (at least that how I would treat it if the Rangers came calling to me lol). I just think this was an inevitable path once that happened. I'm sure ADA took that contract instead of going into arbitration as a signthey were going to possibly push forward with him and see him dogged 2 periods into his season. Just a thought. I think this year Quinn has missed the mark too with ADA. We're not in the room but we also don't know what he said following the penalty in addition to just slamming the door. I do think the benching was justified. I think it was a weak additional penalty to tack on from the referees but it's not a very common move either. I don't blame Quinn for trying to curb behavior that had previously held DeAngelo out. It's not as though it wasn't done in his interest. Tony shouldn't be above discipline because he had a good season last year. You could argue that other top players get longer leashes but they don't have DeAngelo's disciplinary history, there isn't a behavior they're trying to coach out. I'm not seeing much professionalism from DeAngelo. He's a malcontent if things aren't going his way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 We don?t know how they feels.They feel like punching him in the face and firing him LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 Fair and I partly agree. Honestly though, can anyone with a straight face say they thought his benching and sitting in the press box 2 periods into the season was going to be met positively at all? I get that's on ADA too but to me that shows your history is bright in even if it's a new season and clean slats (at least that how I would treat it if the Rangers came calling to me lol). I just think this was an inevitable path once that happened. I'm sure ADA took that contract instead of going into arbitration as a signthey were going to possibly push forward with him and see him dogged 2 periods into his season. Just a thought. I think this year Quinn has missed the mark too with ADA.ADA isn't a victim here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphinity 2.0 Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 I really just can't believe people are going to bat for a guy who basically got cut by an NHL team. This kind of shit is unheard of in this league. Shouldn't that speak volumes to you? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindG1000 Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 Fair and I partly agree. Honestly though, can anyone with a straight face say they thought his benching and sitting in the press box 2 periods into the season was going to be met positively at all? I get that's on ADA too but to me that shows your history is bright in even if it's a new season and clean slats (at least that how I would treat it if the Rangers came calling to me lol). I just think this was an inevitable path once that happened. I'm sure ADA took that contract instead of going into arbitration as a signthey were going to possibly push forward with him and see him dogged 2 periods into his season. Just a thought. I think this year Quinn has missed the mark too with ADA. ADA is an asshole and doesn't know how to be a team player. He deserved his benching. He hurt the team. He responded by, allegedly, whining and pouting. Should Quinn not hold his people accountable for their mistakes? Should there be no consequences for taking unbelievably selfish penalties like that unsportsmanlike? What do you want Quinn to do here? "Well, I'm sorry you were so angry, here, have a Snickers and get back out there, champ" this one? More to the point, should Quinn keep rolling ADA out there when he's getting 70% offensive zone starts, has one point in six games, our PP looks the same with or without him, he's a -6, and when he's on the ice the Rangers are giving up a goal on every fourth shot (compared to every 10th for Trouba/Miller/Fox/Lindgren)? He's playing like rancid dog shit without Marc Staal. If he doesn't want to be held accountable to that, he can go play for a coach that won't hold him to the standard he met last year. ADA is not the victim here. Actions have consequences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keirik Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 We're not in the room but we also don't know what he said following the penalty in addition to just slamming the door. I do think the benching was justified. I think it was a weak additional penalty to tack on from the referees but it's not a very common move either. I don't blame Quinn for trying to curb behavior that had previously held DeAngelo out. It's not as though it wasn't done in his interest. Tony shouldn't be above discipline because he had a good season last year. You could argue that other top players get longer leashes but they don't have DeAngelo's disciplinary history, there isn't a behavior they're trying to coach out. I'm not seeing much professionalism from DeAngelo. He's a malcontent if things aren't going his way. I agree with all except I didn't think sitting him two games was necessary. Benching him the rest of that, game was fine especially considering how many other players have routinely gotten away with bone headed plays. Admittedly, they aren't behavioral so that may be the difference but still. Game 2 of the season sitting him was a bit much to me and I think he was pretty lost right there. Thats mostlynon ADA but I think Quinn was looking for that reason too more than it being deserved. What I'd love is for him to clear and have to take stock in these crossroads. Maybe possibly return to the team with a new attitude. Won't happen but I can dream. He is still offensively gifted and that Pp1 with him and fox in Buffalo looked nice back there slinging it around.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew a Penalty Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 I agree with all except I didn't think sitting him two games was necessary. Benching him the rest of that, game was fine especially considering how many other players have routinely gotten away with bone headed plays. Admittedly, they aren't behavioral so that may be the difference but still. Game 2 of the season sitting him was a bit much to me and I think he was pretty lost right there. Thats mostlynon ADA but I think Quinn was looking for that reason too more than it being deserved. What I'd love is for him to clear and have to take stock in these crossroads. Maybe possibly return to the team with a new attitude. Won't happen but I can dream. He is still offensively gifted and that Pp1 with him and fox in Buffalo looked nice back there slinging it around.. For all we know, Tony said something to Quinn about his benching in game one and subsequently sat in the second game. Warranted, in my opinion, and likely considering Brooks mentions that DeAngelo reacted negatively. I can't blame Quinn for going with what worked in game 2 in game 3 when it was that decisive. Discipline worked on Tony last year, how is Quinn to expect that it would go thermonuclear this season? I think Quinn is doing some things wrong. I think he's done most things correctly with DeAngelo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane Falco Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 I really just can't believe people are going to bat for a guy who basically got cut by an NHL team. This kind of shit is unheard of in this league. Shouldn't that speak volumes to you? This. It's well known he's had issues on every team he's been on. That boy ain't good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindG1000 Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 Could it even remotely disagree more. A fight in practice is just as bad as one in the tunnel after the game. They are ilat "work" either way. You can feel free to disagree, but workplaces have all sorts of different behavioral rules and levels of tolerance based almost strictly on location within the workplace for everything from acceptable behavior to data security to weapon/tool usage. So, objectively, yeah, location and context matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keirik Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 You can feel free to disagree, but workplaces have all sorts of different behavioral rules and levels of tolerance based almost strictly on location within the workplace for everything from acceptable behavior to data security to weapon/tool usage. So, objectively, yeah, location and context matter. You can't be serious. You do know we are talking about a hockey team right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew a Penalty Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 You can feel free to disagree, but workplaces have all sorts of different behavioral rules and levels of tolerance based almost strictly on location within the workplace for everything from acceptable behavior to data security to weapon/tool usage. So, objectively, yeah, location and context matter. I agree with the notion that they're not the same. A fight in practice caused by a scrum has a completely different type of energy. It's not like they come from one guy calling out another. Guys get tied up, they don't like the way they're hit and they fight. It's the heat of the moment. It's another thing to call out your goaltender in the hallway and then pick a fight. Tony purposefully picked a fight. Think about it as manslaughter versus homicide. Tony had intent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keirik Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 I agree with the notion that they're not the same. A fight in practice caused by a scrum has a completely different type of energy. It's not like they come from one guy calling out another. Guys get tied up, they don't like the way they're hit and they fight. It's the heat of the moment. It's another thing to call out your goaltender in the hallway and then pick a fight. Tony purposefully picked a fight. Think about it as manslaughter versus homicide. Tony had intent. Dude. Come on. Tempera are high after a game. Shit happens. I'm not justifying it but didn't kreider punch as well? Who cares? I really believe this happens more often than any of us think, or at least used to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew a Penalty Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 Dude. Come on. Tempera are high after a game. Shit happens. I'm not justifying it but didn't kreider punch as well? Who cares? I really believe this happens more often than any of us think, or at least used to. Tempers are high. Players are used to losing. You don't often hear about an altercation in the locker room. This isn't something you brush off. Tony's history only exacerbates the issue. Kreider punching his teammate is wrong, but he was doing so in the defense of his teammate. Kreider doesn't have a bad history that needs to be worried about, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindG1000 Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 You can't be serious. You do know we are talking about a hockey team right? You do realize that we're talking about a professional hockey team and not a beer league, right? As in members of an organization. With a boss. And co-workers. And other teams contributing to the wellbeing of the franchise from scouts to trainers to doctors to coaches to marketing to HR to PR and so on. This isn't your kid getting into a dust-up. This is a grown ass man getting paid millions of dollars ignoring his boss, agitating his co-workers, instigating workplace violence. But, yeah, boss' fault and no consequences, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindG1000 Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 Dude. Come on. Tempera are high after a game. Shit happens. I'm not justifying it but didn't kreider punch as well? Who cares? I really believe this happens more often than any of us think, or at least used to. By all means, when was the last time we had an outright fight between teammates in the hallways after a game? A legit one? How about caught on camera? It's been decades, if ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sod16 Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 There is plenty of blame to go around. As for Quinn, I think scratching an established NHL player for one game, let alone two, over getting an unsportsmanlike penalty while trailing 4-0 in the third period represents a mindset that will not take him too far in the NHL. This isn't college. It isn't even Game 4 1994 Conference Finals (Keenan sits Leetch). That double scratch really seemed to get the ball rolling on what ultimately happened here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 There is plenty of blame to go around. As for Quinn, I think scratching an established NHL player for one game, let alone two, over getting an unsportsmanlike penalty while trailing 4-0 in the third period represents a mindset that will not take him too far in the NHL. This isn't college. It isn't even Game 4 1994 Conference Finals (Keenan sits Leetch). That double scratch really seemed to get the ball rolling on what ultimately happened here.He didn't get benched for one penalty. It's a pattern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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