LindG1000 Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 And so ends the Adam Henrique to the Rangers rumor era. Much to the relief of our resident @Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerDanger Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 48 minutes ago, LindG1000 said: And so ends the Adam Henrique to the Rangers rumor era. Much to the relief of our resident @Phil It's official. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJWantsTheCup Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Drury must have something big up his sleeve. Missing out on guys who are being traded for small returns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 22 minutes ago, RJWantsTheCup said: Drury must have something big up his sleeve. Missing out on guys who are being traded for small returns. Hope you’re right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 There's two days til the trade deadline and the Rangers fan base is going bat shit because Drury hasn't made a deal two days early. Some teams may be more incentivized to making a deal today based on the schedule. The Rangers don't play until Saturday. I'm probably the biggest pessimist about Drury on this board, but the fan base needs to chill. 48 hours to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJWantsTheCup Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 25 minutes ago, BrooksBurner said: There's two days til the trade deadline and the Rangers fan base is going bat shit because Drury hasn't made a deal two days early. Some teams may be more incentivized to making a deal today based on the schedule. The Rangers don't play until Saturday. I'm probably the biggest pessimist about Drury on this board, but the fan base needs to chill. 48 hours to go. It doesn't matter when Drury makes the trades. Would prefer the sooner the better, but it really doesn't matter much. We fans get impatient when we see players that could help the team get traded for next to nothing and the available players become less and less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 44 minutes ago, BrooksBurner said: There's two days til the trade deadline and the Rangers fan base is going bat shit because Drury hasn't made a deal two days early. Some teams may be more incentivized to making a deal today based on the schedule. The Rangers don't play until Saturday. I'm probably the biggest pessimist about Drury on this board, but the fan base needs to chill. 48 hours to go. 18 minutes ago, RJWantsTheCup said: It doesn't matter when Drury makes the trades. Would prefer the sooner the better, but it really doesn't matter much. We fans get impatient when we see players that could help the team get traded for next to nothing and the available players become less and less. Players moved today who nobody even knew were available, specifically Byram and Mittelstadt. Like I said earlier, not every trade is available to every club. I don't think Buffalo wants to do business with the Rangers, especially with a young guy like Mittelstadt. I'm glad they didn't get Henrique. Vatrano is still in the mix, and they don't really have to worry about integrating him since he was here already and knows most of the team. He just has to learn systems. There's nothing really to freak out about. We weren't going after Sean Walker or Tanev. Nobody consequential to the Rangers got moved. I agree that everyone just needs to settle down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torontonyr Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Who else can we fit now that Vatrano is off the board? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 Buchnevich should be getting way more chatter. Low cap hit? 2.9m at half retention is supposedly on the table. Some term? Through next year. Proven chemistry with KZ? Zibanejad arguably had the best years of his career with Buch on his line, and Buch has only gotten better. I know the optics stink because they traded him away for essentially nothing, but not even looking his way because of that is making another mistake. The trade is water under the bridge. They didn't trade him at a 3m cap hit. They traded him to avoid the full cap hit. That's a meaningful difference. If Drury didn't originally trade him away, I guarantee everyone would be talking about him as an ideal target. Fits the window. Fits the money. Fits as a potential impact player. Drury's ego too high to consider it, or Buchnevich has some sour grapes from the trade? Get. Over. It. This is the guy to get. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 8 minutes ago, BrooksBurner said: Buchnevich should be getting way more chatter. Low cap hit? 2.9m at half retention is supposedly on the table. Some term? Through next year. Proven chemistry with KZ? Zibanejad arguably had the best years of his career with Buch on his line, and Buch has only gotten better. I know the optics stink because they traded him away for essentially nothing, but not even looking his way because of that is making another mistake. The trade is water under the bridge. They didn't trade him at a 3m cap hit. They traded him to avoid the full cap hit. That's a meaningful difference. If Drury didn't originally trade him away, I guarantee everyone would be talking about him as an ideal target. Fits the window. Fits the money. Fits as a potential impact player. Drury's ego too high to consider it, or Buchnevich has some sour grapes from the trade? Get. Over. It. This is the guy to get. The only pause I have is that he's not a shooter. He's just more pass pass pass. I'm assuming once they strike out on Guentzel, they'll turn their attention to Buch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 2 minutes ago, Pete said: The only pause I have is that he's not a shooter. He's just more pass pass pass. I'm assuming once they strike out on Guentzel, they'll turn their attention to Buch. Zibanejad needs to be able get in better positions to shoot. I think part of the problem is he can’t do that as the sole distributor on his line. It sounds backwards, but I actually think he needs that playmaker/passer more than a shooter which requires Zibanejad to lean into the distributor role. The other part of it is Zibanejad is leaned on to stabilize the line defensively. He’s a really good two way guy. He can start to trail the play more as a shooter joining the rush, if there‘s another guy who can carry/push the puck up ice instead of him. We already know Kreider is not that guy, and that guy doesn’t exist on the roster outside of the Panarin line which is not getting touched. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 Drury, right the wrong that you did when u traded Buch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delneggs Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 Jason Zucker with 50% retention and it won't cost that much. Plays a physical game, defensively responsible, chips in offensively and can play either wing. A guy to go into the corners and win battles for Mika and Kreider line which send Kakko to the 3rd line with Cuylee and Wennberg and the 4th line is Brodz, Vesey and Goodrow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 10 minutes ago, delneggs said: Jason Zucker with 50% retention and it won't cost that much. Plays a physical game, defensively responsible, chips in offensively and can play either wing. A guy to go into the corners and win battles for Mika and Kreider line which send Kakko to the 3rd line with Cuylee and Wennberg and the 4th line is Brodz, Vesey and Goodrow. I’m not sure why anyone wants Zucker. Outside of one year playing with Crosby, he’s done very little for the last five years. This guy would offer absolutely no help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 (edited) To NYR: Buchnevich half-retained To STL: 2024 1st, Sykora, 2026 conditional 3rd (if Rangers win a Cup either year with Buchnevich, it upgrades to a 1st) Who says no? Edited March 7 by BrooksBurner 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 13 minutes ago, BrooksBurner said: To NYR: Buchnevich half-retained To STL: 2024 1st, Sykora, 2026 conditional 3rd (if Rangers win a Cup either year with Buchnevich, it upgrades to a 1st) Who says no? Probably Doug Armstrong… That isn’t a bad deal, though probably not the best deal he could get 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 https://www.dailyfaceoff.com/news/why-blues-pavel-buchnevich-is-one-trade-target-worth-the-high-asking-price-this-year Quote Doug Armstrong has set a high bar, a framework that reportedly includes two first-round picks, or one first-round pick plus a first-round equivalent, and an additional prospect. That’s because the Blues are in a no-lose position. Armstrong either gets a hefty price for one of the best players available at this deadline, or he puts him up for auction again this summer with more teams in the mix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddious Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 come home baby 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodka Drunkenski Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 Much rather trade for Buch the Guentzel. Transition would be seamless, familiarity with the team, organization, atmosphere, area, etc. is already there. Plus have him for another year 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 (edited) 7 hours ago, BrooksBurner said: Buchnevich should be getting way more chatter. Low cap hit? 2.9m at half retention is supposedly on the table. Some term? Through next year. Proven chemistry with KZ? Zibanejad arguably had the best years of his career with Buch on his line, and Buch has only gotten better. I know the optics stink because they traded him away for essentially nothing, but not even looking his way because of that is making another mistake. The trade is water under the bridge. They didn't trade him at a 3m cap hit. They traded him to avoid the full cap hit. That's a meaningful difference. If Drury didn't originally trade him away, I guarantee everyone would be talking about him as an ideal target. Fits the window. Fits the money. Fits as a potential impact player. Drury's ego too high to consider it, or Buchnevich has some sour grapes from the trade? Get. Over. It. This is the guy to get. I'd love it. Gotta wonder why the Blues would be willing to get rid of him. Gotta wonder why the Rangers didn't want to keep him too. Remember he and Shesterkin had that car accident together. Pure speculation here. Is there a Buchnevich character or off ice issue (booze?). Edited March 7 by The Dude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodka Drunkenski Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 Blues don’t want to pay his next contract so they want to cash out big time considering they got him for nothing. Booze has nothing to do with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 10 hours ago, BrooksBurner said: Zibanejad needs to be able get in better positions to shoot. I think part of the problem is he can’t do that as the sole distributor on his line. It sounds backwards, but I actually think he needs that playmaker/passer more than a shooter which requires Zibanejad to lean into the distributor role. The other part of it is Zibanejad is leaned on to stabilize the line defensively. He’s a really good two way guy. He can start to trail the play more as a shooter joining the rush, if there‘s another guy who can carry/push the puck up ice instead of him. We already know Kreider is not that guy, and that guy doesn’t exist on the roster outside of the Panarin line which is not getting touched. I can get behind that. In the breakdown the Athletic did, They also mentioned how much zib is leaned on to get the puck out of his own zone. We all know Kreider should have the poke on his stick as little as possible in the neutral zone because it's a turnover waiting happen, so Buch can work that two-man game to get the puck out of the zone with the zib. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 2 hours ago, Pete said: I can get behind that. In the breakdown the Athletic did, They also mentioned how much zib is leaned on to get the puck out of his own zone. We all know Kreider should have the poke on his stick as little as possible in the neutral zone because it's a turnover waiting happen, so Buch can work that two-man game to get the puck out of the zone with the zib. Buch’s two-way game really developed when he spent 1+ seasons playing next to Zib. And his passing complimented Zib well too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Br4d Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 2024 1st, Kakko and one of Jones/Sykora/Berard. It's an honest offer that leaves space for one of the towers to keep skating after the deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 9 minutes ago, Br4d said: 2024 1st, Kakko and one of Jones/Sykora/Berard. It's an honest offer that leaves space for one of the towers to keep skating after the deal. They're not trading Kakko. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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