RichieNextel305 Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 (edited) List by Vince Mercogliano. Touches on potential fits in the event Chytil is out for season and we have his money to use. Brings up a few guys, namely Lindholm, who would be about as all-in as it could get for the Rangers. Also touches on guys who could be fits in the event he returns and we need to go the cheaper route. Brings up Clutterbuck, which I find highly unlikely, and Duclair, among other potentially low-cost options. Also, Pierre LeBrun recently said in an article posted by The Athletic that the Rangers and Jake Guentzel could potentially be a match at the deadline if Pittsburgh falls out of the race. Edited December 29, 2023 by RichieNextel305 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long live the King Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 Lindholm for sure. If not Lindholm, Monahan and Guentzel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieNextel305 Posted December 29, 2023 Author Share Posted December 29, 2023 (edited) If Chytil is out for the year, I’m intrigued by the idea of dealing a 1st to rent Lindholm. Quite frankly, he’s obviously a Top-6 forward. But coming here, he likely would be our 3C. With the way that Trocheck has played on the line with Panarin, I doubt that we see him moved out there. Lindholm has lots of talent but he also does a lot of stuff good away from the puck that would make him a great fit here in the role of a 3C and it would also make the Rangers scary deep down the middle. Edited December 29, 2023 by RichieNextel305 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 5 minutes ago, RichieNextel305 said: If Chytil is out for the year, I’m intrigued by the idea of dealing a 1st to rent Lindholm. Quite frankly, he’s obviously a Top-6 forward. But coming here, he likely would be our 3C. With the way that Trocheck has played on the line with Panarin, I doubt that we see him moved out there. Lindholm has lots of talent but he also does a lot of stuff good away from the puck that would make him a great fit here in the role of a 3C and it would also make the Rangers scary deep down the middle. Yeah. You wait it out a bit longer on Chytil. Find out what you can and see what is likely to happen there. If he is in fact unable to return this year, then I’d absolutely be looking at Lindholm first and foremost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long live the King Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 19 minutes ago, RichieNextel305 said: If Chytil is out for the year, I’m intrigued by the idea of dealing a 1st to rent Lindholm. Quite frankly, he’s obviously a Top-6 forward. But coming here, he likely would be our 3C. With the way that Trocheck has played on the line with Panarin, I doubt that we see him moved out there. Lindholm has lots of talent but he also does a lot of stuff good away from the puck that would make him a great fit here in the role of a 3C and it would also make the Rangers scary deep down the middle. Eh. Tro had an incredible hot streak. Something like 20 of his points came in a 15 game stretch. He's come back to earth. Lindholm is the more skilled player. I think you have to see what he looks like between Panarin and Laf. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valriera Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 Duclair remains the smart money pick as of now but, need to wait for chytil’s situation to work out 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsm7302 Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 8 minutes ago, Valriera said: Duclair remains the smart money pick as of now but, need to wait for chytil’s situation to work out After the Sharks game, I'm convinced he will solve our RW depth issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long live the King Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 Center is a much bigger problem. Kakko will be back. Can't have Bonino be a long term answer at 3c. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieNextel305 Posted December 29, 2023 Author Share Posted December 29, 2023 (edited) 39 minutes ago, Long live the King said: Eh. Tro had an incredible hot streak. Something like 20 of his points came in a 15 game stretch. He's come back to earth. Lindholm is the more skilled player. I think you have to see what he looks like between Panarin and Laf. Disagree. Goes beyond just the points. They play well together and have developed chemistry. Even when not producing on the scoresheet, they often find ways to pin the opposing teams in their own zone for long stretches of play. Edited December 29, 2023 by RichieNextel305 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsm7302 Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 I'm looking for that depth RW and center option at the deadline akin to the Copp and Vatrano signings a couple of years ago. Not looking to reinvent the top 6 like last year. We've got the mojo; just gotta sustain through out the playoff grind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJWantsTheCup Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 Anybody except Buttfuck from the Islanders. I hate that guy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 57 minutes ago, Long live the King said: Eh. Tro had an incredible hot streak. Something like 20 of his points came in a 15 game stretch. He's come back to earth. Lindholm is the more skilled player. I think you have to see what he looks like between Panarin and Laf. Laviolette probably doesn't see Tro as a second line center and the way he doesn't see Bonino as a third liner, injuries notwithstanding. Tro would be your prototypical third line center who you would want matching up against the other team's top line center during the course of a playoff series. I don't think you can say that about Lindholm. Also Guentzel is a LW. Not sure how he helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 20 minutes ago, RichieNextel305 said: Disagree. Goes beyond just the points. They play well together and have developed chemistry. Even when not producing on the scoresheet, they often find ways to pin the opposing teams in their own zone for long stretches of play. Trocheck FO% + 75% O zone starts really help with all that. Trocheck is the guy you want checking the other team's top guys. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kick save and a beauty Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 Tough year to be buyers. With all the parity in these divisions it is gonna be a sellers market for sure. Remember the old saw that the best trades may be those you walked away from? I expect that to be even more true this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Br4d Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 No way the Pens are trading Guentzel in the division, probably not in the conference. I doubt we could make an offer that made them bite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Br4d Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 Trocheck is becoming my favorite Ranger in a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 1 hour ago, Pete said: Laviolette probably doesn't see Tro as a second line center and the way he doesn't see Bonino as a third liner, injuries notwithstanding. Tro would be your prototypical third line center who you would want matching up against the other team's top line center during the course of a playoff series. I don't think you can say that about Lindholm. Also Guentzel is a LW. Not sure how he helps. 1 hour ago, Pete said: Trocheck FO% + 75% O zone starts really help with all that. Trocheck is the guy you want checking the other team's top guys. Agreed. And if they are able to acquire another C that can play in your top-6, you take a whack at that guy with Panarin and LaFreniere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keirik Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 Might be a bit of a stretch since he's the captain, but I'd really look to see if we could get Boone Jenner. He has term left with 2 more years but he's a very good player for a 3.75m cap hit especially since we now definitely need another C . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long live the King Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 1 hour ago, Pete said: Laviolette probably doesn't see Tro as a second line center and the way he doesn't see Bonino as a third liner, injuries notwithstanding. Tro would be your prototypical third line center who you would want matching up against the other team's top line center during the course of a playoff series. I don't think you can say that about Lindholm. Also Guentzel is a LW. Not sure how he helps. Guentzel-Zib-Wheeler Panarin-Monahan-Laf Kreider-Tro-Kakko Goodrow-Bonino-Vesey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valriera Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 Well given the chytil news just posted this becomes very different. That almost certainly means he’s done for the year. I have to believe that it sends the wrong message for drury not to go after someone like lindholm. You would imagine that lindholm will figure out how to play with panarin and laf easily, and you always have trochek as an insurance policy if that doesn’t work out. It is a nice fit but an extremely expensive fit. Monahan could theoretically replace Bonino but I wonder what you’re really getting there. Not worth it imo. Slotting trochek back down to that role, however, is much much much different. Despite all that I think it still winds up being Duclair in the end. He’s going to be cheap, he’s a cup final vet, he can score and plays big. Exactly what we need. That said, the prospect of replacing chytil with a lindholm definitely is tasty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 18 minutes ago, Keirik said: Might be a bit of a stretch since he's the captain, but I'd really look to see if we could get Boone Jenner. He has term left with 2 more years but he's a very good player for a 3.75m cap hit especially since we now definitely need another C . I’d like that guy too. But as said… he’s their Captain and it would be in the division. Gotta think that’s pretty unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 28 minutes ago, Long live the King said: Guentzel-Zib-Wheeler Panarin-Monahan-Laf Kreider-Tro-Kakko Goodrow-Bonino-Vesey That doesn't really help. Left wing isn't the problem. Right wing is. So as long as the bolded is a thing, it's not a thing. It doesn't make sense to give up assets to address something that isn't in need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long live the King Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 10 minutes ago, Pete said: That doesn't really help. Left wing isn't the problem. Right wing is. So as long as the bolded is a thing, it's not a thing. It doesn't make sense to give up assets to address something that isn't in need. More scoring is more scoring. Wheeler has at least figured out where to go when he catches up to the play. He's too slow to slot into the 3rd line role and at this point I don't see them moving him out of the line up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 (edited) Maybe we can pull back Ryan Strome, and have the best of both worlds: Trocheck and Strome. LOL Seriously though....How about Bjugstadt. I haven't seen that much of him this year, but he's a big body that can score. Edited December 29, 2023 by Ozzy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 1 hour ago, Br4d said: No way the Pens are trading Guentzel in the division, probably not in the conference. I doubt we could make an offer that made them bite. Give them Chytil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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