BrooksBurner Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 Assuming the only move is clearing Nemeth's cap hit, the Rangers in a best case scenario have somewhere in the vicinity of $6.5-7M maximum to spend on a center this year. More realistically, that number is closer to $5-5.5 so they have a little more wiggle room on a halfway decent backup goalie and 4th line improvements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash or Czech Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 40 minutes ago, Pete said: Where are they getting 8 million from? I found $8mil when I overpaid PLD in my trade simulation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 18 minutes ago, Cash or Czech said: I found $8mil when I overpaid PLD in my trade simulation? Yea you also had yourself at 4C, playing the team to play there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash or Czech Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 44 minutes ago, Pete said: Yea you also had yourself at 4C, playing the team to play there. I think I put myself on LTIR actually Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 1, 2022 Author Share Posted July 1, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keirik Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 That's so nice of the guy..... settling for 2-3m less per year just to play at MSG. Awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsm7302 Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 23 minutes ago, Phil said: We've got options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 34 minutes ago, Phil said: He's clearly not paying attention to our cap situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 9 minutes ago, Pete said: He's clearly not paying attention to our cap situation. Not to mention Twitter bots like this Phil Kocher account perpetuating it. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 That’s probably Tony D’s burner account Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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josh Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 8m/2y Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddious Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 1 hour ago, Phil said: No way we afford him but yes please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 1, 2022 Author Share Posted July 1, 2022 Quote Ryan Strome and Andrew Copp both intend to hit the free agent open market on July 13, multiple sources have told The Post, thus creating an urgent need for the Rangers to acquire a second-line center. It is believed that general manager Chris Drury is focusing on the trade market rather than free agency to fill the vacancy that will be created by the departure of Strome, who has operated as the club’s second-line pivot — and Artemi Panarin’s partner — for the last three seasons. Quote The Rangers, who are operating with approximately $10.13 million of space with several holes that need to be filled, could not accommodate the asking prices of either Strome or Copp, who are understandably seeking to maximize their earning power at their first crack at free agency. We’re told that neither party has closed the door to a Copp return if circumstances warrant. A second source suggested that the Rangers and Strome could take a second look at one another on Day Two of free agency if the center is unsigned and the club has not yet filled the vacancy. Quote The Blueshirts are believed to have interest in Winnipeg center Mark Scheifele, the 29-year-old who was selected seventh overall in 2011, immediately behind Strome and Zibanejad. Scheifele is under contract for two more seasons at an annual cap hit of $6.125 million. The Rangers could likely accommodate that but the acquisition would essentially become a two-year rental ahead of unrestricted free agency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 Come on Chris! If you can’t get PLD, just go get Pius Suter from Detroit on the cheap and kick the can down the road one more season. Make all the big long term moves next summer instead. Larry, I know you read these boards. Put a little sweat into it and make an article about some cheaper “under the radar” stop gap options like Suter. Come on man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 Suter has an expensive contract for what he does. No fucking thanks x1000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 8 minutes ago, josh said: Suter has an expensive contract for what he does. No fucking thanks x1000 You must be thinking Ryan Suter. Easy mistake to make Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 1, 2022 Author Share Posted July 1, 2022 28 minutes ago, rmc51 said: Come on Chris! If you can’t get PLD, just go get Pius Suter from Detroit on the cheap and kick the can down the road one more season. Make all the big long term moves next summer instead. Larry, I know you read these boards. Put a little sweat into it and make an article about some cheaper “under the radar” stop gap options like Suter. Come on man. 16 minutes ago, josh said: Suter has an expensive contract for what he does. No fucking thanks x1000 3 minutes ago, rmc51 said: You must be thinking Ryan Suter. Easy mistake to make I forget which episode it was, but I'm pretty sure it was Elliotte Friedman recently said that the reason Yzerman wants to sign someone like Copp this summer is because they think Suter did a good enough job for who he is, but don't believe in someone his size as a big picture number two on a playoff team. I respect the work you put in to lobby for him @rmc51 but I tend to agree — if Strome, who isn't actually that small, is somehow still too small, how is Suter not an entirely lateral move, if not a step back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieNextel305 Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 If I had to make an educated guess, I’d bet that the one we end up with when all is said and done will be Scheifele. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Phil said: I forget which episode it was, but I'm pretty sure it was Elliotte Friedman recently said that the reason Yzerman wants to sign someone like Copp this summer is because they think Suter did a good enough job for who he is, but don't believe in someone his size as a big picture number two on a playoff team. I respect the work you put in to lobby for him @rmc51 but I tend to agree — if Strome, who isn't actually that small, is somehow still too small, how is Suter not an entirely lateral move, if not a step back? The expectation isn’t that he would be a long term solution. He might not even work as a 2C this year. This is not meant to be a good approach to field the best team on paper for next season as it is not the objective. The Rangers can blow their load on JT Miller or something if they want to max out the roster’s chances for next season only. The objective is to: 1) provide some form of cheaper depth to the position on a short, cheap contract 2) not blow a load of assets on a one year player 3) provide competition for Chytil for one season 4) save ample cap space for a deadline move. If neither Suter nor Chytil cut it, you can target a 2c rental. If the stars align and one of them fills that hole, you still have cap space to bolster elsewhere. 5) have cap flexibility next summer. It should be infinitely easier to tell which kids are going to command how much money and how much term after one more season. 6) I’ve mentioned this before, but the crop of UFA centers looks pretty nice next year: ROR, JT Miller, Larkin, Horvat. Maybe all of those guys won’t hit the market, but you never know. Additionally, a guy like PLD sees his price in a trade go down when he’s only got 1 year left before UFA. I’m not tied to Suter the player. In fact I have absolutely no special love for the guy. I view him as a competent player who may or may not elevate his game some more. What I’m tied to is the idea behind what bringing him in would represent. Cap and roster flexibility, when we have more $ and knowledge on the kids we have. Edited July 1, 2022 by rmc51 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sod16 Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 Anyone care to join me in a toast the first time Strome takes a lame offensive zone hooking or slashing penalty against the Rangers? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 18 hours ago, rmc51 said: Latest from Staple... Some click-bait? Kakko AND Chytil in a package deal...for Scheifele or Larkin? If only one is dealt for a center upgrade, it's likely to be Chytil: So Chytil is likely worth more on the market than Kakko. Not surprising. He's a better player...and a center. Chytil or Kakko packaged with Lundkvist for JT Miller? The options are plentiful. Going to come down to Drury's preferences along with what potential contract extensions look like. Link: https://theathletic.com/3393413/2022/06/30/rangers-free-agency-trades/ I don't deal these kids for a rental. No. Especially not Kakko. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 3, 2022 Author Share Posted July 3, 2022 Quote 30. New York Rangers: They really like Copp, but right now it’s not a financial fit. They like Ryan Strome (and he likes it there). There were times it seemed like it was gaining momentum, but, as of now, it’s not a financial fit. So they’re looking at centres on the trade market. Alexis Lafreniere’s strong playoff ruined others’ ideas of asking for him, but no question the requests are now about Filip Chytil and Kaapo Kakko. There’s probably some Braden Schneider, too, but I don’t think the Rangers want any part of that. Nils Lundkvist is much more likely. If Adam Henrique had one year left instead of two, I wondered about the Ducks eating some salary and making it work. New York was asking a high price (including a non-waiver eligible prospect) in exchange for Alexander Georgiev, but teams weren’t biting because they thought the goalie might not be qualified due to the cap squeeze. https://www.sportsnet.ca/article/32-thoughts-whats-up-with-every-team-heading-into-the-nhl-draft/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 On 7/1/2022 at 11:40 AM, Phil said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Br4d Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 After what Chytil did in the playoffs why would the Rangers not hook him up with Panarin next season and see if he's finally growing into the 2C/1C they projected him at when they took him? When Chytil had a stable situation in the playoffs he looked very good and against a tough defensive team. Strome leaving could be an opportunity instead of a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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