Phil Posted February 23, 2023 Author Share Posted February 23, 2023 7 minutes ago, Dunny said: Jimmy Vesey shuttles back and forth between your top 2 lines Stanley Cup Contender Pick one. Exactly. Right now, even with Tarasenko, they're likely to have at least one of Vesey or Goodrow in their top-six. That's not exactly confidence-inspiring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Phil said: Exactly. Right now, even with Tarasenko, they're likely to have at least one of Vesey or Goodrow in their top-six. That's not exactly confidence-inspiring. And yet somehow the team won 20 something of their last 30 games and is finally scoring at even strength... I keep coming back to... Kane is a nice to have. Getting better defensively nets the same result. I can really go either way here. Edited February 23, 2023 by Pete 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Heaven Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 Just got home from the office, Kane a NYR yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted February 23, 2023 Author Share Posted February 23, 2023 Just now, Pete said: And yet somehow the team won 20 something of their last 30 games and is finally scoring at even strength... Regular season. They're winning, but the game tightens up big time in the playoffs when a whole series can be defined by your inability to score just one of those goals in a key game. Vesey works in bursts, not as a full-time top-six player. Ditto for Goodrow. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdog99 Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Pete said: I got you, until the bolded. If your scenario plays out, the only drastic change needed would be a coaching change. And that doesn't require picks and prospects. Yes, a coaching change would be a top consideration. But even now, well need picks and prospects as a way to creatively fill holes left by cap casualties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieNextel305 Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 18 minutes ago, Phil said: Regular season. They're winning, but the game tightens up big time in the playoffs when a whole series can be defined by your inability to score just one of those goals in a key game. Vesey works in bursts, not as a full-time top-six player. Ditto for Goodrow. And I’d love to see them work together on a 4th line with Motte. It would be nice to have a 4th line with no mobility issues and one that could defend and have no anchors out there when it comes to offense. I get people going to the analytics with Kane. That’s fine. But the guy is a monster come playoff time. He just knows how to find time and space and create chances in tight spots. Can you imagine having to game plan for a team that has this type of depth in the Top-9? The Kid Line, a line built for playoff hockey, would be out there against a teams 3rd pair. I am obviously of the belief of going for it. Forget game planning other teams. Let them try and figure out how to stop this roster from scoring. Even if 1 line is being defended or shut down; it’s unlikely all 3 of those lines would be kept quiet consistently. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindG1000 Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 Either he knows something or he's just blue balling two fanbases at this point. Dude has been dangling this in front of us all day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Phil said: Regular season. They're winning, but the game tightens up big time in the playoffs when a whole series can be defined by your inability to score just one of those goals in a key game. Vesey works in bursts, not as a full-time top-six player. Ditto for Goodrow. Yes I understand the difference between playoffs and regular season. But Vesey actually scores the goals you want to see in the playoffs. He goes to the net. Scores dirty goals. If Kane doesn't pan out I'm OK with what we have now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 3 hours ago, BrooksBurner said: I have to think Kane would finish a lot more of these chances that Vesey is getting fed by Panarin. Vesey is getting glorious opportunities and not finishing enough. Looks like Gauthier out there at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieNextel305 Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 (edited) Brooksie confirms it: the Rangers are officially after Kane. https://nypost.com/2023/02/22/rangers-eyeing-patrick-kane-before-nhl-trade-deadline/ Quote Maybe Patrick Kane will ultimately become the Rangers’ version of a white whale. Maybe the three-time Stanley Cup winner from Chicago will never make it to Broadway. But The Post has learned, Rangers general manager Chris Drury is metaphorically saying, “Never say never.” According to sources, the Rangers have signaled they will try to make it work if Kane — who has yet to declare his intentions — is willing to waive his no-move clause in order to come to New York. We are told interest has not waned in the least since the acquisition of Vladimir Tarasenko from St. Louis on Feb. 10. That, and not an additional fourth-liner, is the game Drury is hunting. Oh. My. Goodness. Edited February 23, 2023 by RichieNextel305 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Heaven Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 Just now, RichieNextel305 said: Brooksie confirms it: the Rangers are officially after Kane. https://nypost.com/2023/02/22/rangers-eyeing-patrick-kane-before-nhl-trade-deadline/ Yeah b/c he saw Valley's tweet and reads everything here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Phil said: Exactly. Right now, even with Tarasenko, they're likely to have at least one of Vesey or Goodrow in their top-six. That's not exactly confidence-inspiring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 4 minutes ago, The Dude said: That post probably had you pretty conflicted. A Vesey burn mixed with a Gauthier burn. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 Vegas just cleared an ass ton of cap space. They are gearing up for some kind of move. Youd have to think Kane is an option for them. Golden Knights trade Weber's contract to Coyotes for Dysin Mayo https://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/2581506 Chicago also just took on some salary in a deal with Ottawa that is just strange. Senators trade Zaitsev, picks to Blackhawks for future considerations https://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/2581611 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddious Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 10 minutes ago, RichieNextel305 said: Brooksie confirms it: the Rangers are officially after Kane. https://nypost.com/2023/02/22/rangers-eyeing-patrick-kane-before-nhl-trade-deadline/ Oh. My. Goodness. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Pete Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 21 minutes ago, RichieNextel305 said: Brooksie confirms it: the Rangers are officially after Kane. https://nypost.com/2023/02/22/rangers-eyeing-patrick-kane-before-nhl-trade-deadline/ Brooksie is just putting all the gossip from Twitter in one place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, Pete said: Brooksie is just putting all the gossip from Twitter in one place. The content comes from here. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted February 23, 2023 Author Share Posted February 23, 2023 Kane and another fourth liner means they're subtracting from the roster. Maybe someone like Goodrow. Lafferty is probably who they want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Heaven Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 Any word if Kane is a scratch tonight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Phil said: Kane and another fourth liner means they're subtracting from the roster. Maybe someone like Goodrow. Lafferty is probably who they want. Quote According to sources, the Rangers have signaled they will try to make it work if Kane — who has yet to declare his intentions — is willing to waive his no-move clause in order to come to New York. We are told interest has not waned in the least since the acquisition of Vladimir Tarasenko from St. Louis on Feb. 10. That, and not an additional fourth-liner, is the game Drury is hunting. @Phil 2nd quote on the very bottom line from Brooks- I think he's saying Kane, nothing for the 4th line. Edited February 23, 2023 by jsrangers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieNextel305 Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 4 minutes ago, Phil said: Kane and another fourth liner means they're subtracting from the roster. Maybe someone like Goodrow. Lafferty is probably who they want. Brooks said Kane, and NOT another 4th liner, are what Drury is after. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 5 minutes ago, Phil said: Kane and another fourth liner means they're subtracting from the roster. Maybe someone like Goodrow. Lafferty is probably who they want. And you don't think Chicago was on his no trade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 1 minute ago, RichieNextel305 said: Brooks said Kane, and NOT another 4th liner, are what Drury is after. Getting Kane makes Vesey the new 4th liner. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieNextel305 Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 14 minutes ago, Pete said: Getting Kane makes Vesey the new 4th liner. No, I know. I think Phil read it the wrong way, and I was just trying to correct it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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