Pete Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 2 hours ago, RodrigueGabriel said: It's all on him? I thought a lot of it was finding another team with the cap space, an affordable price for it, and a willingness to help the Rangers become bulked up beyond imagination. I can't see the Hawks running around trying to line up financing when what they get back is likely to be super shitty at best - if you hold it up against the final Eichel deal. (Although still prob better than nothing.) I would think it would be mostly on Drury to put all the pieces together. As far as we know he has still not given his list or even talk to the GM about being traded at all. There's been not one report of him asking out or giving a list, everything has been speculative. IMO, if the list of trade partners disappears it's largely on Kane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieNextel305 Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 1 minute ago, LindG1000 said: Honestly starting to feel like Chicago overplayed their hand here. Not even all on Chicago, but Kane. He saw the way the market has been developing. I know it’s a hard decision to make, and is easier said as an outsider for us. But I mean, do you want to stay there or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LindG1000 Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 9 minutes ago, Pete said: As far as we know he has still not given his list or even talk to the GM about being traded at all. There's been not one report of him asking out or giving a list, everything has been speculative. IMO, if the list of trade partners disappears it's largely on Kane. I think that significantly downplays the role of the GM here. Kyle Davidson has fucked this up pretty badly by acting as if the ball is in Kane's court instead of putting on his big boy pants and simply saying that they're going to trade him. Which is, of course, his job as GM. Kane's pouring kerosene on the flames here, but it's by no means Kane's job to initiate the trade process. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieNextel305 Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 1 minute ago, LindG1000 said: I think that significantly downplays the role of the GM here. Kyle Davidson has fucked this up pretty badly by acting as if the ball is in Kane's court instead of putting on his big boy pants and simply saying that they're going to trade him. Which is, of course, his job as GM. Kane's pouring kerosene on the flames here, but it's by no means Kane's job to initiate the trade process. Agree and disagree. In a vacuum, yes, you’re right. It’s the GM’s job. But this also is a very tricky spot because you’re dealing with maybe the most iconic player in the history of an iconic franchise; maybe the best American to ever play. So while yes it’s the GMs job, he is also trying to do right by a guy who has done so much for that franchise. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindG1000 Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 8 minutes ago, RichieNextel305 said: Agree and disagree. In a vacuum, yes, you’re right. It’s the GM’s job. But this also is a very tricky spot because you’re dealing with maybe the most iconic player in the history of an iconic franchise; maybe the best American to ever play. So while yes it’s the GMs job, he is also trying to do right by a guy who has done so much for that franchise. Right - and the way you do that is by being direct. You're not doing right by the guy if you hem and haw and put the onus on him to tell you where he wants to be traded. You tell him straight-up that you're going to trade him and invite him into the process. Or - and this is a thing - he says "no, I don't want to uproot my family or live away from them for a few months" and that's the end of that. Kane has that right in his contract. Either way, gotta lay the blame at the GMs feet here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 10 minutes ago, LindG1000 said: Right - and the way you do that is by being direct. You're not doing right by the guy if you hem and haw and put the onus on him to tell you where he wants to be traded. You tell him straight-up that you're going to trade him and invite him into the process. Or - and this is a thing - he says "no, I don't want to uproot my family or live away from them for a few months" and that's the end of that. Kane has that right in his contract. Either way, gotta lay the blame at the GMs feet here. If I were a betting man, based on what he had said to the media after the Tarasenko trade and how he wasn’t happy to hear about it, Kane had previously been direct. He wanted Rangers. Period. The equation has changed if the Rangers communicated they are no longer interested, which might take time to figure out where else he might be open to going if anywhere. If this is the case, then it’s on Kane to communicate that. Can’t expect a GM to spend time working out trade details just to have Kane refuse to waive. On the other hand, if the Rangers have communicated they are still interested, there’s no new decision to be made from Kane. It’s solely on Davidson to make it work, or be spiteful and get nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieNextel305 Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 (edited) Brooksie has joined in on the fun and is an official member of the “Why Not Get Kane?” Crew. https://nypost.com/2023/02/20/rangers-can-still-get-patrick-kane-with-this-vitali-kravtsov-move/ And he’s right. Things look good now for sure. But our direct competition in the East are only going to get stronger before this is all said and done. It’s on Kane. He clearly wants to be here. Forward that to your GM and see if it could be worked out. If it can, then why the fuck not? Drury is obviously going for it. If you’re gonna go for it, go for it. Lets load up and make a fucking run at this thing. Go get him, Dru. Showtime->Broadway. Edited February 20, 2023 by RichieNextel305 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindG1000 Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 1 hour ago, BrooksBurner said: If I were a betting man, based on what he had said to the media after the Tarasenko trade and how he wasn’t happy to hear about it, Kane had previously been direct. He wanted Rangers. Period. The equation has changed if the Rangers communicated they are no longer interested, which might take time to figure out where else he might be open to going if anywhere. If this is the case, then it’s on Kane to communicate that. Can’t expect a GM to spend time working out trade details just to have Kane refuse to waive. On the other hand, if the Rangers have communicated they are still interested, there’s no new decision to be made from Kane. It’s solely on Davidson to make it work, or be spiteful and get nothing. Yup. Can't blame Kane here. He isn't sitting on shit. Davidson is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsm7302 Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 I think he ends up in Dallas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieNextel305 Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 12 minutes ago, jsm7302 said: I think he ends up in Dallas Don’t make me fucking report you. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sod16 Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 Losing in the playoffs will be just a little more painful for whoever gets him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 3 hours ago, RichieNextel305 said: Brooksie has joined in on the fun and is an official member of the “Why Not Get Kane?” Crew. https://nypost.com/2023/02/20/rangers-can-still-get-patrick-kane-with-this-vitali-kravtsov-move/ And he’s right. Things look good now for sure. But our direct competition in the East are only going to get stronger before this is all said and done. It’s on Kane. He clearly wants to be here. Forward that to your GM and see if it could be worked out. If it can, then why the fuck not? Drury is obviously going for it. If you’re gonna go for it, go for it. Lets load up and make a fucking run at this thing. Go get him, Dru. Showtime->Broadway. If the Rangers jumped and got Tarasenko. Who's to say Kane hasn't soured on the Rangers fir not making it happen? If the Rangers can get him for next to nothing, what's stopping other teams from offering more? What if anyone amongst the tops in the league makes even a decent offer? We hope NY is where he wants to play. But, why not Colorado, Boston, Carolina , Tampa, Vegas, Pittsburgh, Dallas, or even Edmonton? There are some options for him if double retention is in play. To get here. He just has to say so. He hasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 I really think that ship sailed when we got Tarasenko. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bieser Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 Hopefully we're not done. A RW that bumps Vesey to the 4th line would be great. At the very least, slide Goodrow to C and pick up another 4 liner. We're not going to war with Leschyshyn are we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 Last night's game kind of reinforces that creating offense is not the issue, keeping pucks out is. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsm7302 Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 7 minutes ago, Pete said: Last night's game kind of reinforces that creating offense is not the issue, keeping pucks out is. Not to mention....Vesey creates a good amount of chances on his line. Chemistry is finally arriving with our lineup. Why mess with what is working? Kane isn't coming here. The GM and coach have to see what the rest of us do; a team as opposed to a conglomerate of individuals. The leadership is there, the battle is there and the talent is there. Consistency on the backend is the sole issue and I feel like that may auto correct in the final sprint. Hope Kane lands somewhere else because this team is ROLLING. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 18 minutes ago, Pete said: Last night's game kind of reinforces that creating offense is not the issue, keeping pucks out is. They would be much better served by adding a forward that can be used in a defensive role vs an offensive one. Also… yeah, you’d love Vesey on your 4th line… but hasn’t he earned top-9 minutes? He doesn’t look out of place there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 7 minutes ago, RangersIn7 said: They would be much better served by adding a forward that can be used in a defensive role vs an offensive one. Also… yeah, you’d love Vesey on your 4th line… but hasn’t he earned top-9 minutes? He doesn’t look out of place there. Agree, I think Domi is the add here. It'll keep a guy like VZ honest knowing that there's a guy like Domi on the fourth line who could slide up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 4 minutes ago, Pete said: Agree, I think Domi is the add here. It'll keep a guy like VZ honest knowing that there's a guy like Domi on the fourth line who could slide up. Or are they better served by adding a 4C, as opposed to yet another winger? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 6 minutes ago, RangersIn7 said: Or are they better served by adding a 4C, as opposed to yet another winger? He plays center, over 50% in the dot this year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieNextel305 Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 2 hours ago, Pete said: He plays center, over 50% in the dot this year. Everyone knows how much I love Kane and want him here. But, I do have to say, I would love to add a center who can win a faceoff… 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaveByRichter35 Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 Vegas just cleared a bunch of cap space moving Stone to LTIR 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsm7302 Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 Any chance the Devil's take a swing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieNextel305 Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 1 minute ago, jsm7302 said: Any chance the Devil's take a swing? New Jersey is focused in solely on Timo Meier at the moment, according to everything that all the reporters keep saying. I doubt they do a thing until there is any resolution there, which may not come until deadline day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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