The Dude Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 12 minutes ago, LindG1000 said: I don't think there's a chance in hell you're seeing anything considered a premium asset moved here. No Miller, no Othmann, no 1st. Staple reported as much today The trade may literally be a pick or two, with a condition that bumps the pick to either the 2023 or 2024 1st if we win the Cup this year. I don't think this is going to be a big return at all. I'd also add that if Kane really wants to be in NY, he can be. He just needs to do it on our terms - and if he was willing to go this scorched earth to make it happen right now, he's probably thinking very differently than most upcoming free agents. I was referring to the proposal of Kane signing an extension and having Chicago eat half as the post I was replying to suggested. I've seen several takes on a regular trade. There's plenty of ways this can go. Don't forget. Chicago doesn't have to trade him. Heck. There's no talk about Toews being on the move. Kane can bitch all he wants. Chicago doesn't have to appease him if they still have to pay him as he leaves. Had he played better during the season, it wouldn't have had to come down to the wire like this. Not getting why Chicago had to do him any favors, whenhe hasn'tdone any favors for them in this situation. Could have gotten max return last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsm7302 Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 Zac Jones, protected first 2023 (lowest pick), and second in 2024. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 12 minutes ago, Cash or Czech said: We predicting the return for Chicago? Zac Jones, 2024 2nd (possibly conditional), Brett Berard Has Berard fallen off the map? I've heard zero chatter on him after hearing lots of great things about him last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 1 hour ago, BrooksBurner said: That’s got my wheels spinning, because I’d give a lot more if Kane signed a 1-2 year extension $5-6M per and Chicago retained half. I want to see what he does here before any kind of extension. Then, we can extend for 1 year and keep him on LTIR for half the season while he rehabs his surgery and eats his Cheerios from the Cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash or Czech Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, The Dude said: Has Berard fallen off the map? I've heard zero chatter on him after hearing lots of great things about him last season. In his junior year at Providence. Not producing the same offense as last season, but still only 20 years old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindG1000 Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 7 minutes ago, The Dude said: I was referring to the proposal of Kane signing an extension and having Chicago eat half as the post I was replying to suggested. I've seen several takes on a regular trade. There's plenty of ways this can go. Don't forget. Chicago doesn't have to trade him. Heck. There's no talk about Toews being on the move. Kane can bitch all he wants. Chicago doesn't have to appease him if they still have to pay him as he leaves. Had he played better during the season, it wouldn't have had to come down to the wire like this. Not getting why Chicago had to do him any favors, whenhe hasn'tdone any favors for them in this situation. Could have gotten max return last year. I got ya. Though, Chicago doesn't have to trade him, but the options right now are "trade Kane for what the Rangers will give us" or "lose him to the Rangers in July for nothing". Both options suck, but one has assets coming to Chicago - even middling ones. And oh yeah, did Davidson screw the pooch here. No doubts they could have gotten far better value in a less restricted situation. Oh, and they're not trading Toews because he's on LTIR with long COVID. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted February 28, 2023 Author Share Posted February 28, 2023 31 minutes ago, Cash or Czech said: We predicting the return for Chicago? Zac Jones, 2024 2nd (possibly conditional), Brett Berard Zac Jones, Conditional 2024 2nd (becomes first if Rangers win the Cup). That's it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 9 minutes ago, LindG1000 said: Oh, and they're not trading Toews because he's on LTIR with long COVID. OK. I thought that was more of a "I'm sitting until you trade me, because I'm not putting my body in danger for this shitshow" move by Toews. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindG1000 Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 6 minutes ago, Phil said: Zac Jones, Conditional 2024 2nd (becomes first if Rangers win the Cup). That's it. That's absolutely my ceiling here. I don't even know if Jones is on the table though it would make sense. The Rangers just got a 1st for Nils Lundkvist - Jones is basically on the same trajectory without the label of being a former first-rounder. If Kane is really forcing his way...I don't know why that's on the table unless it's literally the piece Davidson needs to not get lynched by the fanbase. I feel like "If Jones, no 1st" makes a good deal of sense. The return feels like a "save face" return - probably a pick or two, maybe a depth player doing well at the AHL level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddious Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 33 minutes ago, Phil said: Zac Jones, Conditional 2024 2nd (becomes first if Rangers win the Cup). That's it. Gonna suck losing a 1st but oh well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 18 hours ago, The Dude said: And the top 9 forwards are softer than grandma's prune shits. Re-quoting this since it ties in to Gallant addressing the issue: Now I don’t know what to believe, given that Gallant is a bullshitter 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsm7302 Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 We play so fast that we can't get back to our zone to defend!!!! Lame excuse. How quickly we forget Panarin getting ragdolled. I'm not saying I want Reavo back but geez, we have Trouba to answer the bell and that's really it. Playoffs will be interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYR2711 Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 1 minute ago, jsm7302 said: We play so fast that we can't get back to our zone to defend!!!! Lame excuse. How quickly we forget Panarin getting ragdolled. I'm not saying I want Reavo back but geez, we have Trouba to answer the bell and that's really it. Playoffs will be interesting. Maybe bring up Cuylle for the playoffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 9 minutes ago, NYR2711 said: Maybe bring up Cuylle for the playoffs Seems like an awful big ask of a rookie with 5 nhl games under his belt. I think Mikolla has it in his game to be tough. I’m concerned that it’s not enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sod16 Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 Jones plus a first too rich. I'd rate that as more than the Devils paid for Meier, and they can and probably will re-sign him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYR2711 Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 4 minutes ago, Kevin said: Seems like an awful big ask of a rookie with 5 nhl games under his belt. I think Mikolla has it in his game to be tough. I’m concerned that it’s not enough. It worked with Kreider Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindG1000 Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 Nothing we don't already know aside from.... He's playing for us in Philly tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsm7302 Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 Panarin-Zibanejad-Kane Kreider-Tro-Tarasenko 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted February 28, 2023 Author Share Posted February 28, 2023 It's time to retire this monster of a thread. Let's move all PK88 talk here: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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