SaveByRichter35 Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, Pete said: Read the training camp thread, all will be revealed. There will be no surprises either. 13 pages. Thanks. I'll get back to you around Halloween and let you know I am finally caught up.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 20 minutes ago, SaveByRichter35 said: 13 pages. Thanks. I'll get back to you around Halloween and let you know I am finally caught up.... Like I said, there will be no surprises. Your guesses are pretty much where it goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 A lot more Laugh insight from Brooks on the latest Up in the Blueseats: Spoiler alert: it's not remotely flattering. Brooks openly questions if he even lasts the year if the "noise" around him doesn't die down soon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 Live. Laugh. Loaf. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keirik Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 Happy Birthday Laffy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 (edited) Happy Birthday to the biggest bust in NHL history! Laviolette gonna chip in for a Dunkin' gift card. Edited October 11, 2023 by Sharpshooter 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJWantsTheCup Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 18 minutes ago, Sharpshooter said: Happy Birthday to the biggest bust in NHL history! Laviolette gonna chip in for a Dunkin' gift card. Does he get paid enough to afford such an expensive gift? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 Just now, RJWantsTheCup said: Does he get paid enough to afford such an expensive gift? Maybe. Now that Miller got a new deal, he can chip in as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dem Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 29 minutes ago, Sharpshooter said: Maybe. Now that Miller got a new deal, he can chip in as well. Cant chip in inside the blueline might as well chip in for the gift Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 Just now, Dem said: Cant chip in inside the blueline might as well chip in for the gift Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodrigueGabriel Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 I figured I'd put my 2 cents in before the season starts, so I can be on the record as it plays out. Sorry for the length. I think Friedman set the stage correctly as he talked about the Rangers being lucky in the lottery and unlucky in the draft. Unless you have a long record of arguing in 2020 that the Rangers should have picked someone else (nobody here does), much of the excoriation of Laf is mostly a tantrum that it turned out to be a a relatively poor draft year. There was no Connor Bedard or even Jack Hughes to be had at 1OA, and Laf shouldn't have to bear responsibility for not being one. Don't you think he wanted to be the dominant 1OA y'all wanted him to be? It's not his fault that he is not that guy and it's not his fault that he has not been "WHAT WE WERE PROMISED." He can only be the best player that he can. I dare say that Laf's start with the Rangers was the first time anybody suggested that he sucked at hockey. It was probably the first time that anyone said he was anything other than the best player on the ice in almost all situations. At 19, 20, 21, that come-down had to completely rock his foundation and make him question everything he's ever assumed as true. And then if you aren't what you thought you were, how do you go about becoming the best version of what you are? That can make a young player look pretty confused about what they're supposed to be doing on the ice and even maybe sometimes seem like he's not trying. If we had not gotten lucky with the lottery and picked at, say, #10 both years and gotten Kakko and Laf, I bet most of us would be pretty happy with the yield - even if Laf was slow to come along. (I'm much more pissed about getting zippo for a #9 in Krav than I am about Laf.) This time last year, a lot of people were pissing on Kakko from a great height after his awful 2021-22 season. But it was all part of the road to figuring it out and now our 1RW is being set up as the toast of the town. Last year was Laf's equivalent to Kakko's shitty 21-year old season. Give him this one to figure it out whether you think that the finished product is going to look anything like your 1OA wet dream or not. The suggestion that Laf should be throwing himself on the floor before the media, apologizing for not meeting our expectations says a lot more about the people saying it than about Laf. He is what he is - and I think that's potentially an excellent NHL contributor. If there is anything that keeps him from that, it's going to be all the people who can't get out of their own heads about what a 1OA is supposed to be, rather than what Laf can realistically do for the Rangers. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 20 minutes ago, RodrigueGabriel said: I figured I'd put my 2 cents in before the season starts, so I can be on the record as it plays out. Sorry for the length. I think Friedman set the stage correctly as he talked about the Rangers being lucky in the lottery and unlucky in the draft. Unless you have a long record of arguing in 2020 that the Rangers should have picked someone else (nobody here does), much of the excoriation of Laf is mostly a tantrum that it turned out to be a a relatively poor draft year. There was no Connor Bedard or even Jack Hughes to be had at 1OA, and Laf shouldn't have to bear responsibility for not being one. Don't you think he wanted to be the dominant 1OA y'all wanted him to be? It's not his fault that he is not that guy and it's not his fault that he has not been "WHAT WE WERE PROMISED." He can only be the best player that he can. I dare say that Laf's start with the Rangers was the first time anybody suggested that he sucked at hockey. It was probably the first time that anyone said he was anything other than the best player on the ice in almost all situations. At 19, 20, 21, that come-down had to completely rock his foundation and make him question everything he's ever assumed as true. And then if you aren't what you thought you were, how do you go about becoming the best version of what you are? That can make a young player look pretty confused about what they're supposed to be doing on the ice and even maybe sometimes seem like he's not trying. If we had not gotten lucky with the lottery and picked at, say, #10 both years and gotten Kakko and Laf, I bet most of us would be pretty happy with the yield - even if Laf was slow to come along. (I'm much more pissed about getting zippo for a #9 in Krav than I am about Laf.) This time last year, a lot of people were pissing on Kakko from a great height after his awful 2021-22 season. But it was all part of the road to figuring it out and now our 1RW is being set up as the toast of the town. Last year was Laf's equivalent to Kakko's shitty 21-year old season. Give him this one to figure it out whether you think that the finished product is going to look anything like your 1OA wet dream or not. The suggestion that Laf should be throwing himself on the floor before the media, apologizing for not meeting our expectations says a lot more about the people saying it than about Laf. He is what he is - and I think that's potentially an excellent NHL contributor. If there is anything that keeps him from that, it's going to be all the people who can't get out of their own heads about what a 1OA is supposed to be, rather than what Laf can realistically do for the Rangers. Hear hear! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddious Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 26 minutes ago, RodrigueGabriel said: I figured I'd put my 2 cents in before the season starts, so I can be on the record as it plays out. Sorry for the length. I think Friedman set the stage correctly as he talked about the Rangers being lucky in the lottery and unlucky in the draft. Unless you have a long record of arguing in 2020 that the Rangers should have picked someone else (nobody here does), much of the excoriation of Laf is mostly a tantrum that it turned out to be a a relatively poor draft year. There was no Connor Bedard or even Jack Hughes to be had at 1OA, and Laf shouldn't have to bear responsibility for not being one. Don't you think he wanted to be the dominant 1OA y'all wanted him to be? It's not his fault that he is not that guy and it's not his fault that he has not been "WHAT WE WERE PROMISED." He can only be the best player that he can. I dare say that Laf's start with the Rangers was the first time anybody suggested that he sucked at hockey. It was probably the first time that anyone said he was anything other than the best player on the ice in almost all situations. At 19, 20, 21, that come-down had to completely rock his foundation and make him question everything he's ever assumed as true. And then if you aren't what you thought you were, how do you go about becoming the best version of what you are? That can make a young player look pretty confused about what they're supposed to be doing on the ice and even maybe sometimes seem like he's not trying. If we had not gotten lucky with the lottery and picked at, say, #10 both years and gotten Kakko and Laf, I bet most of us would be pretty happy with the yield - even if Laf was slow to come along. (I'm much more pissed about getting zippo for a #9 in Krav than I am about Laf.) This time last year, a lot of people were pissing on Kakko from a great height after his awful 2021-22 season. But it was all part of the road to figuring it out and now our 1RW is being set up as the toast of the town. Last year was Laf's equivalent to Kakko's shitty 21-year old season. Give him this one to figure it out whether you think that the finished product is going to look anything like your 1OA wet dream or not. The suggestion that Laf should be throwing himself on the floor before the media, apologizing for not meeting our expectations says a lot more about the people saying it than about Laf. He is what he is - and I think that's potentially an excellent NHL contributor. If there is anything that keeps him from that, it's going to be all the people who can't get out of their own heads about what a 1OA is supposed to be, rather than what Laf can realistically do for the Rangers. Partially agreed. but there’s clearly been a lack of effort with him too. It’s been discussed ad nauseum. Let’s just see how he does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 1 hour ago, RodrigueGabriel said: I figured I'd put my 2 cents in before the season starts, so I can be on the record as it plays out. Sorry for the length. I think Friedman set the stage correctly as he talked about the Rangers being lucky in the lottery and unlucky in the draft. Unless you have a long record of arguing in 2020 that the Rangers should have picked someone else (nobody here does), much of the excoriation of Laf is mostly a tantrum that it turned out to be a a relatively poor draft year. There was no Connor Bedard or even Jack Hughes to be had at 1OA, and Laf shouldn't have to bear responsibility for not being one. Don't you think he wanted to be the dominant 1OA y'all wanted him to be? It's not his fault that he is not that guy and it's not his fault that he has not been "WHAT WE WERE PROMISED." He can only be the best player that he can. I dare say that Laf's start with the Rangers was the first time anybody suggested that he sucked at hockey. It was probably the first time that anyone said he was anything other than the best player on the ice in almost all situations. At 19, 20, 21, that come-down had to completely rock his foundation and make him question everything he's ever assumed as true. And then if you aren't what you thought you were, how do you go about becoming the best version of what you are? That can make a young player look pretty confused about what they're supposed to be doing on the ice and even maybe sometimes seem like he's not trying. If we had not gotten lucky with the lottery and picked at, say, #10 both years and gotten Kakko and Laf, I bet most of us would be pretty happy with the yield - even if Laf was slow to come along. (I'm much more pissed about getting zippo for a #9 in Krav than I am about Laf.) This time last year, a lot of people were pissing on Kakko from a great height after his awful 2021-22 season. But it was all part of the road to figuring it out and now our 1RW is being set up as the toast of the town. Last year was Laf's equivalent to Kakko's shitty 21-year old season. Give him this one to figure it out whether you think that the finished product is going to look anything like your 1OA wet dream or not. The suggestion that Laf should be throwing himself on the floor before the media, apologizing for not meeting our expectations says a lot more about the people saying it than about Laf. He is what he is - and I think that's potentially an excellent NHL contributor. If there is anything that keeps him from that, it's going to be all the people who can't get out of their own heads about what a 1OA is supposed to be, rather than what Laf can realistically do for the Rangers. A lot of truth to this. But also a lot of exaggeration, especially the last paragraph, but I get it. I think the problem with "all he can do is be the best player he can" is that he actually needs to be the best player he can...And he isn't doing that. If you listen to the latest Up in the Blue Seats podcast, Brooks basically calls this pre-season the most disappointing 2 weeks of Laf's career. He says the team bent over backward to work with him after last season (acknowledging GG fucked up with him), and by all accounts, everyone involved is now wondering what's wrong with Laf...He's been that bad in camp...With so much opportunity and support given to him. I'd never blame a player for being what he is, but I do blame players who don't try to improve themselves. Brooks also talks about how after Boyle's first season as a Ranger, he knew he had to do something because he couldn't keep up. He worked his ass off and wound up centering the best 4th line the Rangers have had, maybe ever. He was a #11 overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 I don't think anybody is setting up or talking up Kakko as the toast of the town. Most are saying he's gapped Laf. There's more talk about how we're going to plug the RW gap come TDL this time round than Kakko being the toast of the town. Keeping it short all the players were promised a clean slate coming into camp, opportunities were given that weren't earned in the past based on performance. Yet Brooks sums up Laf's play as the worst two weeks to date. That's on the player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Br4d Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 Truth of the matter at this point is that Kakko finally looked like a 3rd liner last season, same as Lafreniere. A year later in the development cycle. I'm disappointed in Laf's production but he has more even strength goals after 3 seasons than anybody else on the Rangers had by then. This not including Panarin who was 24 when he came over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 82 goal pace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJWantsTheCup Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, BrooksBurner said: 82 goal pace Trade him while his value is high Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 1 minute ago, RJWantsTheCup said: Trade him while his value is high 82 goal potential only for McDavid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddious Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 Leads the team in goals. Suck on that haters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valriera Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 The truth is if he played like he did this period every period nobody would be complaining. Except he doesn’t. So that’s a great start to the season and you only hope it continues. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 Bringing this here ... please keep shredding me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 4 hours ago, BrooksBurner said: 82 goal pace 164 point pace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash or Czech Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 Pretty good game. Keep it up kid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now