Phil Posted July 12, 2022 Author Share Posted July 12, 2022 Quote The Rangers could get Kadri if Drury can engineer a trade whereby Kadri would sign with a third team that would assume 50 percent of the contract before immediately sending him to New York for a package of futures. I’m thinking that tanking Chicago and Arizona would be perfect candidates with which to pull off the caper, clubs that are willing to take on bad contracts and money in exchange for the kind of return they would receive from the Rangers. Imagine if the Blueshirts could get a second-line center for the next five or six years for an annual cap hit of between $3.5 million and $4 million per. That would be massive. For the Rangers would not only get the player they covet, they would have up to an additional $2 million to $2.5 million of previously projected spoken-for space that might allow the team to re-up Tyler Motte or even Andrew Copp. Quote The offer would start with Nils Lundkvist. If including Vitali Kravtsov in the deal would allow the club to retain Copp, then that would not be a deal-breaker. It’s the same story. The Rangers would wall off Igor Shesterkin, Adam Fox, Alexis Lafreniere, K’Andre Miller, Braden Schneider, Ryan Lindgren, Brennan Othmann, Will Cuylle and the no-move veterans. They should be very reluctant to part with next year’s first-rounder. Quote Would I want to trade Kakko for Kadri? No, I’d want the 21-year-old Finn to play beside Kadri. But if the Rangers think that No. 24 might get an offer sheet, or, more to the point, if they don’t think he is a part of their future, getting both a coveted 2C plus attendant cap space for him would be a pretty decent return. https://nypost.com/2022/07/12/how-rangers-can-pull-off-adding-nazem-kadri-in-nhl-free-agency/?utm_campaign=iphone_nyp&utm_source=twitter_app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 I thought there was a waiting period before a player could be traded after signing. Maybe that’s just when matching offer sheets. Kadri 3 yrs x $10M , funneled through Chicago at half cost. Kadri gets way more AAV than he’ll get otherwise. Rangers get Kadri for 3 yrs at 5M. Chicago probably nets Kakko in such a deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 1 hour ago, Pete said: It's the day before free agency and everyone is bluffing. Unless somebody is willing to come here for less than has been advertised so far, or if we could move out some long-term salary, we're going bargain bin shopping... D Strome or a D Strome-like object. I have a sneaky suspicion that Drury has something up his sleeve that we didn't think of. I think you're probably right though, Pete on the bargain bin. I still wouldn't be upset if we kept Stromer Boner! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 41 minutes ago, Phil said: https://nypost.com/2022/07/12/how-rangers-can-pull-off-adding-nazem-kadri-in-nhl-free-agency/?utm_campaign=iphone_nyp&utm_source=twitter_app I like Kadri a lot and think he's exactly the type of player we need here but that's a lot of moving parts and a lot of trust needs to involved to pull something like this off. Has something like this ever been done before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieNextel305 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 I think the chances of that type of scenario happening are about as likely as Rachel McAdams and Amanda Seyfried inviting themselves over my place for an all day Means Girl 3-way. So, I’m saying there’s a chance. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 12, 2022 Author Share Posted July 12, 2022 9 minutes ago, Kevin said: I like Kadri a lot and think he's exactly the type of player we need here but that's a lot of moving parts and a lot of trust needs to involved to pull something like this off. Has something like this ever been done before? Not that I can recall, no. Certainly not immediately after a signing. This feels like the kind of thing the NHL would punish teams for trying to do, too, because this very clearly violates the spirit of the CBA. Like, sure, get caught trying, I guess, but I'd be shocked if a team pulled this off and the league didn't void it almost immediately citing, in effect, money laundering. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsm7302 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 1 hour ago, Phil said: https://nypost.com/2022/07/12/how-rangers-can-pull-off-adding-nazem-kadri-in-nhl-free-agency/?utm_campaign=iphone_nyp&utm_source=twitter_app Well well Mr. Brooks, that was some crafty thinking. Cap circumvention at its best! No way this gets approved but I like it none the less. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindG1000 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 41 minutes ago, Phil said: Not that I can recall, no. Certainly not immediately after a signing. This feels like the kind of thing the NHL would punish teams for trying to do, too, because this very clearly violates the spirit of the CBA. Like, sure, get caught trying, I guess, but I'd be shocked if a team pulled this off and the league didn't void it almost immediately citing, in effect, money laundering. The NHL is super fucking weird with how it chooses to enforce its rules and this would be an absolutely insane bit of collusive creativity. I'm unaware of any rule preventing this from happening. This is certainly a way to weaponize free agent cap space, and I'm with you on the "get caught trying" bit. The worst that happens is that there's a sternly worded tweet and they fire the whole front office anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 12, 2022 Author Share Posted July 12, 2022 Quote A quick rundown of some other free-agent centers who would be more short-term choices: Claude Giroux turned down a request to waive his no-trade to go from Philly to the Rangers near the deadline and, a league source says, likely wouldn’t consider the Rangers now. Another league source says the Rangers have shown no interest in Paul Stastny, who could still contribute at 36. https://theathletic.com/3417766/2022/07/12/rangers-free-agency-center-copp/?source=user_shared_article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 1 hour ago, Phil said: https://theathletic.com/3417766/2022/07/12/rangers-free-agency-center-copp/?source=user_shared_article Ok, so Stastny moves to the top of the list of who I think Drury targets. He doesn’t leak. Subterfuge. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 12, 2022 Author Share Posted July 12, 2022 8 minutes ago, rmc51 said: Ok, so Stastny moves to the top of the list of who I think Drury targets. He doesn’t leak. Subterfuge. LOL, thought the same. Fully expect a two-year deal now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, Phil said: LOL, thought the same. Fully expect a two-year deal now. Stastny just checks too many boxes to have zero interest. Vet C, short term committment, probably discounted in exchange for chance to win, faceoffs, still productive, etc. Drury has to be hiding it. Not saying I expected him to be all in on him or anything, but to have no interest? Nope. Don’t believe that one bit lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuddyInTheMiddle Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 1 hour ago, Phil said: https://theathletic.com/3417766/2022/07/12/rangers-free-agency-center-copp/?source=user_shared_article In my best Mr. T voice "I pity the fool who give Kadri 7 years at 7 million" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash or Czech Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 https://theathletic.com/3415961/2022/07/11/nhl-free-agency-targets-qualifying-offers/ Quote Since arriving in Chicago, Dylan Strome has scored 154 points in 225 games, a 56-points per 82 games clip. It was a big surprise then, that he wasn’t qualified at his modest $3.6 million rate, considering the Blackhawks are swimming in cap space. Even if he didn’t factor into the club’s long-term plans, it would have been better for Chicago to come to a short-term agreement and trade him at the deadline rather than let him walk for nothing. Alas, here we are. Strome’s a very useful middle-six centre who should be attractive for teams that need help down the middle. Since the 2019-20 campaign, Strome has scored 1.92 points per hour at five-on-five, which is a bona fide top-six rate. There are yellow flags to keep in mind though. For one, Strome’s skating is still sluggish which makes him a questionable two-way player. Because of that, he needs to be carefully and strategically deployed to succeed. The Blackhawks knew this as they fed Strome a heavy dosage of offensive zone starts, mostly played him against bottom-six competition and lined up Patrick Kane on his wing for long stretches. The fit is key: Strome makes a lot of sense for a team that needs an offensively-gifted middle-six centre on a sheltered scoring line. Sounds more like the situation we need Chytil to be in to succeed. Can't have two of them with sheltered matchups. Someone needs to step up, or we need to sign someone who can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 5 hours ago, Phil said: https://nypost.com/2022/07/12/how-rangers-can-pull-off-adding-nazem-kadri-in-nhl-free-agency/?utm_campaign=iphone_nyp&utm_source=twitter_app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sod16 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 5 hours ago, RichieNextel305 said: I think the chances of that type of scenario happening are about as likely as Rachel McAdams and Amanda Seyfried inviting themselves over my place for an all day Means Girl 3-way. Try getting Lindsay Lohan over solo. Much better chances. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieNextel305 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 1 minute ago, Sod16 said: Try getting Lindsay Lohan over solo. Much better chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillyb Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 I'm so fucking hyped on the prospect of this team picking up Kadri. Holy fuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieNextel305 Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 “With Malkin back to Pittsburgh, look for Vincent Trocheck in Manhattan. That appears to be his best fit.” - Friedman https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/nhl-market-buzz-what-comes-next-for-johnny-gaudreau/ 21 goals, 30 assists in 81 games last season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 21 hours ago, Phil said: https://nypost.com/2022/07/12/how-rangers-can-pull-off-adding-nazem-kadri-in-nhl-free-agency/?utm_campaign=iphone_nyp&utm_source=twitter_app 21 hours ago, rmc51 said: I thought there was a waiting period before a player could be traded after signing. Maybe that’s just when matching offer sheets. Kadri 3 yrs x $10M , funneled through Chicago at half cost. Kadri gets way more AAV than he’ll get otherwise. Rangers get Kadri for 3 yrs at 5M. Chicago probably nets Kakko in such a deal. It’s an interesting possibility and fun to discuss in an academically speculative fashion… but there’s so many moving parts and so much that would have to fall into place for that to happen, it’s a snowball’s chance in hell kind of long-shot. Bold though. Very bold. Drury needs balls as big as an Irish broads ass to pull that one off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 I think Drury finds a way to add both a 2nd line C and another top-6 winger TBH. Dont know how. But I think he gets there. Question is though is who goes to facilitate? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJWantsTheCup Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 (edited) Sounds like Trochek is going to be the target. Edited July 13, 2022 by RJWantsTheCup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Br4d Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 Would Panarin waive his NMC to go to Calgary? Kreider - Zibanejad - Kakko Lafreniere - Kadri - Kratsov Chytil - Trocheck - Goodrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash or Czech Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 Christ people Panarin isn't going anywhere. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 5 minutes ago, Br4d said: Would Panarin waive his NMC to go to Calgary? Kreider - Zibanejad - Kakko Lafreniere - Kadri - Kratsov Chytil - Trocheck - Goodrow Would you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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