josh Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 Lias got extended. Howden didn’t get a qualifying offer. just saying… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, josh said: Lias got extended. Howden didn’t get a qualifying offer. just saying… Yea, his 2 points are really changing the game for LA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 Get Kadri here for 6.5/ 7. Deal Chytil and Nemeth, sign White cheap and i think this roster works nicely with a lot of potential moving parts. Kreider- Zibanejad- Kakko Panarin- Kadri- Kravtsov Lafreniere- White- Blais Motte- Goodrow- Reaves Extra forwards - Gauthier and combination of FAs with size that can play C or wing Sturm/Bjugstad/ Athanasiou, all likely available at league minimum, PTOs... If Othmann shows enough, you drop Blais to 4th line RW and you figure out who moves to their off wing onto the right. Motte is obviously a luxury here in this proposed roster. Not sure he even fits under cap. Hunt is flushed down the toilet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 25 minutes ago, Pete said: Yea, his 2 points are really changing the game for LA. Who Motte? i already mentioned Howden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 6 hours ago, josh said: Who Motte? i already mentioned Howden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindG1000 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 Looks like Andrew Copp is off to free agency Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 Thanks for the effort, Copper!!! .....maybe we'll catch ya down the road a little bit! No complaints here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash or Czech Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 He's gonna sign 6 years $6mil somewhere. Replace Malkin in Pittsburgh? Trochek in Carolina? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindG1000 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 6 minutes ago, Cash or Czech said: He's gonna sign 6 years $6mil somewhere. Replace Malkin in Pittsburgh? Trochek in Carolina? Copp screams Carolina. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash or Czech Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 1 minute ago, LindG1000 said: Copp screams Carolina. If and only if he accepts their salary structure though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 12, 2022 Author Share Posted July 12, 2022 22 minutes ago, LindG1000 said: Looks like Andrew Copp is off to free agency I'm good with this. Copp's deal is the kind you instantly regret when it's signed. He fell off hard after the first round. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsm7302 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 I wonder what the hang up was. I hate how much we gave up for the rental but do appreciate the experience garnered for the kid line. Seems like the feeling is the team wants to fill the 2c role and not promote Chytil if you read between the lines of the media blurbs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 3 minutes ago, jsm7302 said: I wonder what the hang up was. I hate how much we gave up for the rental but do appreciate the experience garnered for the kid line. Seems like the feeling is the team wants to fill the 2c role and not promote Chytil if you read between the lines of the media blurbs. There's no reason to. They had to take a big swing this season because of what was happening with Shesty, Kreider, and the powerplay. No guarantees any of that is replicated next season so they had to go for it. They are loaded with young talent and IMO do better in the 2nd/3rd rounds finding gems than maybe any other team not named Tampa. I think they will be OK. They have a core in CK, Zib, Panarin, Trouba, and then they have core 2.0 in Lafreniere, Miller, Fox, Schneider, and if he ever get his shit figured out, Kakko. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieNextel305 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 Appreciate what Copp brought to the team. Was worth the move IMO. We took a swing. I wonder if he looks to head home to the Red Wings? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsm7302 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, Pete said: There's no reason to. They had to take a big swing this season because of what was happening with Shesty, Kreider, and the powerplay. No guarantees any of that is replicated next season so they had to go for it. They are loaded with young talent and IMO do better in the 2nd/3rd rounds finding gems than maybe any other team not named Tampa. I think they will be OK. They have a core in CK, Zib, Panarin, Trouba, and then they have core 2.0 in Lafreniere, Miller, Fox, Schneider, and if he ever get his shit figured out, Kakko. (Walks back off ledge) Thanks Pete! Gotta get this center depth figured out. Crazy we lose two of em (3 if you count Copp) when we were paper thin at that position to begin with. We really need more than just a 2c. We need a couple of guys to back fill in case of injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 12, 2022 Author Share Posted July 12, 2022 11 minutes ago, jsm7302 said: I wonder what the hang up was. I hate how much we gave up for the rental but do appreciate the experience garnered for the kid line. Seems like the feeling is the team wants to fill the 2c role and not promote Chytil if you read between the lines of the media blurbs. Why? It was all lottery tickets. Barron included. They gave up nothing of significance and it took them to the ECF. I'm good with it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 12, 2022 Author Share Posted July 12, 2022 Quote • The biggest news Monday was Evgeni Malkin announcing he will test free agency. It appears as if talks broke down with the final formal proposals being the player asking for a three-year contract in the $7Ms, and the Penguins offering three years in the $6Ms. I do think a four-year, $6.1M idea was conceptually discussed, but Malkin, frustrated with the entire process, ended things before it went anywhere. There’s always a chance he could return, but the Penguins can’t afford a massive hole behind Sidney Crosby. (It is believed Vincent Trocheck is one of their targets. I’d thought the possibility of Boston for Trocheck, but impending returns of Patrice Bergeron and David Krejci make the Rangers and Penguins more likely.) https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/nhl-market-buzz-latest-on-flyers-senators-whats-next-for-malkin/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slobberknocker Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 i dont see how they fit in kadri without making some major moves, especially when they have to start paying the kids next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 27 minutes ago, RichieNextel305 said: Appreciate what Copp brought to the team. Was worth the move IMO. We took a swing. I wonder if he looks to head home to the Red Wings? Absolutely! I agree, Richie. This year's draft seemed to be less talent rich. So that 1st wasn't that terrible a trade off. Pete's right too; Our core is in place now, and we're in a good spot...and anytime we could take a swing due to having the resources to do so?? Sure! Why not! Copp did us proud, and had we gotten a few bounces, and maybe put away Tampa in Game 3 when we had that chance, we may be dancing in the streets with a silver chalice....who knows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 1 minute ago, Slobberknocker said: i dont see how they fit in kadri without making some major moves, especially when they have to start paying the kids next year. I don't think we're adding Kadri, Kane, Malkin or anyone like that. I think it's going to be someone we probably didn't even think of, Slobby! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Ozzy said: I don't think we're adding Kadri, Kane, Malkin or anyone like that. I think it's going to be someone we probably didn't even think of, Slobby! It's the day before free agency and everyone is bluffing. Unless somebody is willing to come here for less than has been advertised so far, or if we could move out some long-term salary, we're going bargain bin shopping... D Strome or a D Strome-like object. Edited July 12, 2022 by Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindG1000 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 5 minutes ago, Phil said: Why? It was all lottery tickets. Barron included. They gave up nothing of significance and it took them to the ECF. I'm good with it. It's true. And it's how you have to look at any pick beyond 20 or so in every draft. Sometimes, you find Pastrnak. More often, you find Sam Steel and Nick Merkley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deejaid Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 47 minutes ago, jsm7302 said: (Walks back off ledge) Thanks Pete! Gotta get this center depth figured out. Crazy we lose two of em (3 if you count Copp) when we were paper thin at that position to begin with. We really need more than just a 2c. We need a couple of guys to back fill in case of injuries. This. If we weren’t willing to pay Copp, a 27 year old in his prime because of term, how can Kadri or Malkin or any other 30+ year olds wanting $6M+ and 4+ years be considered? I still think Chytil needs to be given the shot at 2C. Either he runs with it and we are all good, or the decision can then be made to move him to wing or trade him. That said, we need center depth so what about someone like Evan Rodrigues or Danton Heinen? Both could probably be had for a cheap two year deal and would slot in nicely at 3C with the ability to slide up if Chytil struggles at 2C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindG1000 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 I think tomorrow is going to be a hard day for a lot of UFAs in the "middle six" level. The rubber is going to hit the road on the reality that teams will not be giving both term and money to mid-six type players. Malkin isn't getting the term he's asking for, and neither will a good deal of the players looking for it. The elite players - Gaudreau, Kadri, etc - will get their 7 years and full NMCs. The RFAs who agree to have UFA years bought up will too. The rest? Get used to shorter, higher value deals, or longer, lower value deals. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsm7302 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 5 minutes ago, deejaid said: This. If we weren’t willing to pay Copp, a 27 year old in his prime because of term, how can Kadri or Malkin or any other 30+ year olds wanting $6M+ and 4+ years be considered? I still think Chytil needs to be given the shot at 2C. Either he runs with it and we are all good, or the decision can then be made to move him to wing or trade him. That said, we need center depth so what about someone like Evan Rodrigues or Danton Heinen? Both could probably be had for a cheap two year deal and would slot in nicely at 3C with the ability to slide up if Chytil struggles at 2C. I like the way you're thinking. Rodriguez at 3mil would be a good idea to provide depth with some potential and give the roster some flexibility. Heinen is listed as a LW. Im not familiar with him and his ability to play C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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