NYRangers723 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 Kreider CAR 1st Ryan Johansen NSH 1st We move up and get our 2nd line center while alleviating logjam on wing . Doesn?t Kreider have a NMC the first 3 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 I know it's their 1, I mean do we know what position in the first round it Is yet? Lol, Not completely determined yet Depends on what the Isles, Canadiens, Flames, and Canucks do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keirik Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 I think it's 23 now but could move up 1 spot for each advancement of the Isles, Canucks, and Habs. Gotcha. Realistically u assume the Isles don't blow it although I'd be happy if they did lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew a Penalty Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 You see this is why I'm confused. Calgary and Dallas are both currently ahead of our pick so one should move back either way. So we should be 23 right? Higher playoff seeding but lower regular-season win percentage. That technically applies to Dallas, though they were a round-robin team. Calgary advancing would result in a higher pick. Dallas advancing is a weird situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 Doesn’t Kreider have a NMC the first 3 years? Yes. But I’m not sure how that all works now. Is he operating on the new contract, or is he still bound by the terms of his old one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew a Penalty Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 Yes. But I’m not sure how that all works now. Is he operating on the new contract, or is he still bound by the terms of his old one? I would assume that the new starting date for free agency is operatively equivalent to July 1st, so that would mean he'd still be under his old contract if dealt at the draft. Would mean an 11 team no-trade list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 I've said it elsewhere, but I want no part of RyJo, least of all for Kreider and a swap of firsts. He makes $8 million for the next FIVE years. He's twice in the last three seasons averaged 49.5 points over 82 games. If you are supremely confident playing with someone like Panarin (who I'm not sure he can keep up with given he can't skate all that well/quickly), I suppose you can mitigate that concern and simply assume his production rates will increase as a byproduct of his linemates, but I'll remind you: he's played with talented players in Nashville for the last three years, too. Hynes basically turned him into a defensive/checking center (borne out by the disparity between his zone start differentials under Laviolette versus Hynes), but he's 28. I'm not sure how much runway is really left to realistically hope for a return to the 25-30 goal, 60-70 point player the Predators thought they were getting. And Kreider makes only 1.5 less for the next SEVEN. I mean neither Strome now Panarin are real burners. Not sure why RyJo couldn't keep up. He's a wash with Kreider production wise. For shorter term and minimally more AAV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 And Kreider makes only 1.5 less for the next SEVEN. I mean neither Strome now Panarin are real burners. Not sure why RyJo couldn't keep up. He's a wash with Kreider production wise. For shorter term and minimally more AAV. Between Johansen's minimal 1.5 extra and denying the approximate savings of 1.5 million from a Lundqvist buyout, you've managed to take up 3 million. It adds up don't it? :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 Between Johansen's minimal 1.5 extra and denying the approximate savings of 1.5 million from a Lundqvist buyout, you've managed to take up 3 million. It adds up don't it? :)Good thing Georgie is getting moved lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 I would assume that the new starting date for free agency is operatively equivalent to July 1st, so that would mean he'd still be under his old contract if dealt at the draft. Would mean an 11 team no-trade list. That’s what I thought too. I believe he’s still under the old terms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 I would assume that the new starting date for free agency is operatively equivalent to July 1st, so that would mean he'd still be under his old contract if dealt at the draft. Would mean an 11 team no-trade list. That would be a rotten thing to do. No way they do that to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 That would be a rotten thing to do. No way they do that to him. It would be hard to see them doing that. Especially to a homegrown, career Ranger like him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 Yes. But I?m not sure how that all works now. Is he operating on the new contract, or is he still bound by the terms of his old one?Full NMC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew a Penalty Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 Full NMC? 11 Team NTC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 Full NMC? 11 Team NTC. Correct Under current contract it is 11 team NTC Full no movement clause in first 4 years of his new 7-year deal. Then a 15 team no trade list submitted in last 3 years of that 7-year deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRangers723 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 Yes. But I’m not sure how that all works now. Is he operating on the new contract, or is he still bound by the terms of his old one? . I’m pretty sure it’s a full NMC for the first 3-4 years. Then a limited NTC clause and he gives a list of 11 teams to trade to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 Correct Under current contract it is 11 team NTC Full no movement clause in first 4 years of his new 7-year deal. Then a 15 team no trade list submitted in last 3 years of that 7-year deal.What he just signed is an extension, so he's technically under the terms of his old contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew a Penalty Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 What he just signed is an extension, so he's technically under the terms of his old contract. Yes. We established that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRangers723 Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 Good thing Georgie is getting moved lol . I hope not. I love Hank but I’m not just getting rid of Georgie just to keep Hank 1 more year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 I hope not. I love Hank but I’m not just getting rid of Georgie just to keep Hank 1 more year I think they have their eyes on a kid named Tyler Wall. I kinda like that name "Wall" for goalie too!!! :rofl: So Georgie was probably going to be moved anyhow. I don't know much about this kid Wall, though. I've just heard a little more about him lately since he broke the Division 1 wins record: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 I hope not. I love Hank but I’m not just getting rid of Georgie just to keep Hank 1 more year Then trade Shesterkin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 I really think it?s lost on many people that... A) Georgiev is very unlikely to be here in 2 years And B) They?ve had no issues over the last 15 seasons finding suitable, productive, and quality backups. If they move Georgiev it?s not a big deal at all. Even if he develops into someone else?s starter, it?s immaterial. We have a starter so he wouldn?t be that here anyway. Just trade the kid. You?re helping his career possibilities by doing so. He?s very unlikely to get the opportunity to start here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainMorganBarron Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 I really think it’s lost on many people that... A) Georgiev is very unlikely to be here in 2 years And B) They’ve had no issues over the last 15 seasons finding suitable, productive, and quality backups. If they move Georgiev it’s not a big deal at all. Even if he develops into someone else’s starter, it’s immaterial. We have a starter so he wouldn’t be that here anyway. Just trade the kid. You’re helping his career possibilities by doing so. He’s very unlikely to get the opportunity to start here. I think it is also lost on people that we need Wall to show he can be a backup before we decide to get rid of our very good backup. And by that time Georgiev's value should be a mid 1st rounder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 I think it is also lost on people that we need Wall to show he can be a backup before we decide to get rid of our very good backup. And by that time Georgiev's value should be a mid 1st rounder. Why does our backup have to be Wall? Or for that matter, Huska? Or any other goalies currently in the organization? We have a backup in Lundqvist for one season Backup goalies aren’t difficult to find, nor are they expensive to acquire And no way they’d get any 1st rounder for Georgiev. Nor will his value increase much from what it is now. He’d still be in the same backup role he is now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainMorganBarron Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 Why does our backup have to be Wall? Or for that matter, Huska? Or any other goalies currently in the organization? We have a backup in Lundqvist for one season Backup goalies aren’t difficult to find, nor are they expensive to acquire And no way they’d get any 1st rounder for Georgiev. Nor will his value increase much from what it is now. He’d still be in the same backup role he is now. So if we are not getting a 1st and don't really have a backup in place, why are we trading him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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