Dunny Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Well that sucks. Not much AA here, AAA and then A BB B etc.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunny Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 There's only 2 AA leagues that fall under the OMHA, probably more AA teams in the GTHL but I'm not sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 There's only 2 AA leagues that fall under the OMHA, probably more AA teams in the GTHL but I'm not sure. Thanks Dunny. That explains it some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puck Head Posted October 22, 2013 Author Share Posted October 22, 2013 Canada has it "correct". Same as Europe.. They don't focus so much on tier or comp hockey like we do here in the US Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puck Head Posted October 22, 2013 Author Share Posted October 22, 2013 We had first two league games this weekend. 2-2 tie 2-3 loss Kids battled so overall not a bad weekend. Had a garage sale at the end of the game with a bunch of kids getting ejected (3 seconds left), one kid dropped gloves (on our team) and somehow refs missed that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunny Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 Not at the AAA level. The real competition is at the lower levels where the kids realize they aren't going pro. Then it can become murder between towns because an All-Ontario Bantam "BB" crown is basically the Stanley Cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puck Head Posted October 22, 2013 Author Share Posted October 22, 2013 Not at the AAA level. The real competition is at the lower levels where the kids realize they aren't going pro. Then it can become murder between towns because an All-Ontario Bantam "BB" crown is basically the Stanley Cup. Actually Canadian minor hockey has a great history of developing great hockey players from your "lower" levels. Could be simply numbers.... But I know plenty of guys who played NCAA, ECHL, etc....and never played a day of travel hokey in Canada until they were bantams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunny Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 Lately? There wasn't AAA luke there is now until 15 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puck Head Posted October 22, 2013 Author Share Posted October 22, 2013 Lately? There wasn't AAA luke there is now until 15 years ago. Ya, most of these guys would have been through the system by then. At what age do you guys start putting together "travel" teams? I have coworkers with kids in the Alberta (Edmonton/Calgary) minor hockey. They seem to tier kids as to their skill level for leagues, that's about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunny Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 Novice.. Which are 7 and 8 year olds. The 3 locals I can think of from around here who are current NHL'ers (O'Reilly, Nick Spahling and Lane McDermied) where all out of their local associations and in to AAA by that age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunny Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 But a older local guy like Nathan Perrot would have been playing "D" (!) until Junior. The letters here don't represent your skill level, just the size of the town you're from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puck Head Posted October 22, 2013 Author Share Posted October 22, 2013 I've met an spoken to many Canadian minor hockey officials ....it's simply much different there. One thing is your novice tend to be tier'd per skill set, and then distributed among teams. Calgary per example. 4 tiers or so of novice, and spread evenly per tier. Here in the states we pick top 15 for aaa Next 15 aa And throw the rest in "house" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 It's completely different over here than Canada, and Alaska Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puck Head Posted October 22, 2013 Author Share Posted October 22, 2013 It's completely different over here than Canada, and Alaska We trended towards what you guys have for a while, now trending back towards how Canada does it. I'll tell you this....Sweden and Finland have it nailed as to how it should be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 We trended towards what you guys have for a while, now trending back towards how Canada does it. I'll tell you this....Sweden and Finland have it nailed as to how it should be done. Because here it's more about $$$, then it is development. If you want further development, lessons, clinics, privates, etc ... it's more $$$. I go for my balls between hockey and baseball seasons + clinics and privates. There's a mini training rink near me where you can rent a tiny sheet for $20 a hour and train your kid yourself if you know what you're doing or know what to work on. It's fantastic for goalies, because there isn't much room to skate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puck Head Posted October 22, 2013 Author Share Posted October 22, 2013 Because here it's more about $$$, then it is development. If you want further development, lessons, clinics, privates, etc ... it's more $$$. I go for my balls between hockey and baseball seasons + clinics and privates. There's a mini training rink near me where you can rent a tiny sheet for $20 a hour and train your kid yourself if you know what you're doing or know what to work on. It's fantastic for goalies, because there isn't much room to skate. We somehow have to remove the importance of "money" in regards to youth hockey. We are developing the richest kids...not the most athletic. I don't even want to guess what you guys are paying per season down there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunny Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 I paid $300 for registration, another 300 in lieu of volounteer work (wish I could) and another $300 for fundraising which we'll never make back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 I paid $300 for registration, another 300 in lieu of volounteer work (wish I could) and another $300 for fundraising which we'll never make back. For the whole year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 We somehow have to remove the importance of "money" in regards to youth hockey. We are developing the richest kids...not the most athletic. I don't even want to guess what you guys are paying per season down there Yeah .... I don't see that happening. Ever. If I told you what it costs, you may vomit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 We somehow have to remove the importance of "money" in regards to youth hockey. We are developing the richest kids...not the most athletic. I don't even want to guess what you guys are paying per season down there Read Orr's bio. I'm reading it now. He talks about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puck Head Posted October 22, 2013 Author Share Posted October 22, 2013 Read Orr's bio. I'm reading it now. He talks about this. What does he say Peetie? Agree or disagree with what I am saying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puck Head Posted October 22, 2013 Author Share Posted October 22, 2013 Right now, for the last hour....I've been on the phone non stop. Our Squirt Major coach wants to take his team to some huge Squirt AAA tourney in N.Dakota He and his 3 assistants are younger coaches, all played at least NCAA Div 1. Cost per player is 3500.....and that is WITHOUT a parent going. Last season I had 30 games, 75 practices...and TOTAL cost of season was 1400 per kid, (1700 if they were new and needed jersey's and warmup suit). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 1700 isn't half our cost. We have about the same amount of practices, and we're playing 55-60 games. Also, ice time is more expensive here than areas where rinks are all over the place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 What does he say Peetie? Agree or disagree with what I am saying Agree. He hates how much it costs to play hockey for today's youth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunny Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 Fuck me, 10 years ago I paid $175 and that was it. 40 games, 20 playoff games, 4 Tournaments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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