Pete Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Ozzy said: He's probably one of the best free agent signings in the history of the franchise...probably 2nd to the Messiah! Dude, he's one of the most successful free agent signings in New York sports history. When is the last time a player came here and free agency, especially Ranger, and was every bit as advertised? You'd have to go back to the non-injured version of Gaborik. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Br4d Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 14 minutes ago, Pete said: Dude, he's one of the most successful free agent signings in New York sports history. When is the last time a player came here and free agency, especially Ranger, and was every bit as advertised? You'd have to go back to the non-injured version of Gaborik. Jacob Trouba. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash or Czech Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 10 minutes ago, Br4d said: Jacob Trouba. Was a trade acquisition? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Br4d Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 4 minutes ago, Cash or Czech said: Was a trade acquisition? Yeah I forgot because they traded for him and then signed him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 Plus he sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 2 hours ago, Pete said: Dude, he's one of the most successful free agent signings in New York sports history. When is the last time a player came here and free agency, especially Ranger, and was every bit as advertised? You'd have to go back to the non-injured version of Gaborik. More than advertised. He was a PPG player and became a 105 pt player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 29 minutes ago, BrooksBurner said: More than advertised. He was a PPG player and became a 105 pt player. Right, who was the last person who didn't come in and get worse? Especially for the Rangers, every UFA looks less dynamic, is less productive, is never worth their money. Panarin is all of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddious Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 4 hours ago, Phil said: I hate this fucking thread, and I hate that it won't die even more. There it is boys… never let this thread die Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Pete said: Right, who was the last person who didn't come in and get worse? Especially for the Rangers, every UFA looks less dynamic, is less productive, is never worth their money. Panarin is all of that. Just so happens The Athletic had an article a few years ago about the 20 best free agent signings in NY sports history: https://theathletic.com/1866451/2020/06/15/the-20-best-free-agent-signings-in-new-york-sports-history/ Quote 20. Marian Gaborik (2009) 19. Kerry Collins (1999) 18. Antrel Rolle (2010) 17. Robin Lehner (2018) 16. Wayne Gretzky (1996) 15. Plaxico Burress (2005) 14. Andy Greene (2006) 13. Allan Houston (1996) 12. Wayne Chrebet (1995) 11. Victor Cruz (2010) 10. Anders Kallur (1979) 9. Carlos Beltrán (2005) 8. Anthony Mason (1991) 7. Brian Rafalski (1999) 6. R.A. Dickey (2010) 5. Kevin Mawae (1998) 4. Reggie Jackson (1976) 3. John Starks (1990) 2. Catfish Hunter (1975) 1. Curtis Martin (1998) Panarin is right there with Curtis Martin in terms of regular season worth, and Bread is probably better though. The ones that give me pause are guys like Reggie Jackson, Plaxico Burress, etc. Always hard to weight guys who were so integral to championships, against someone who hasn't done that. If Panarin wins a Cup here, he's #1 on this list by a country mile. Edited February 17, 2023 by BrooksBurner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 15 hours ago, Phil said: They traded for Messier. Panarin is, IMO, the best free agent signing in history. Cup or not. 15 hours ago, Pete said: Dude, he's one of the most successful free agent signings in New York sports history. When is the last time a player came here and free agency, especially Ranger, and was every bit as advertised? You'd have to go back to the non-injured version of Gaborik. No arguments here, fellas! I find this thread about as annoying as a rock in my shoe! LOL ...tell ya one thing....he looks fantastic the last couple of games playing with Tarasenko on the team. I don't even think he has to be on his line, I just think he looks very comfortable with a friend of his with him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJWantsTheCup Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 I know Panarin has been hot lately, but I would switch Vesey and Tarasenko. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 2 hours ago, RJWantsTheCup said: I know Panarin has been hot lately, but I would switch Vesey and Tarasenko. But why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJWantsTheCup Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Pete said: But why? To attempt to get Tarasenko going and to keep Panarin happy. It's quite apparent Panarin is a different player when he's happy. Not sure how long it is before just having Tarasenko on the team is enough to keep him playing this way. Plus I don't think Vesey or Tarasenko with Kreider and Zibanejad really matters much. Edited February 18, 2023 by RJWantsTheCup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 11 minutes ago, RJWantsTheCup said: To attempt to get Tarasenko going and to keep Panarin happy. It's quite apparent Panarin is a different player when he's happy. Not sure how long it is before just having Tarasenko on the team is enough to keep him playing this way. Plus I don't think Vesey or Tarasenko with Kreider and Zibanejad really matters much. But both lines are playing well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJWantsTheCup Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 11 minutes ago, Pete said: But both lines are playing well... They are, but Tarasenko really hasn't contributed at all yet. He would benefit from playing with Panarin and would finish more of the chances Vesey is not converting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sod16 Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 15 minutes ago, RJWantsTheCup said: They are, but Tarasenko really hasn't contributed at all yet. He would benefit from playing with Panarin and would finish more of the chances Vesey is not converting. Well, I was counting the milliseconds before people started complaining that Tarasenko was not producing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 (edited) 28 minutes ago, RJWantsTheCup said: They are, but Tarasenko really hasn't contributed at all yet. He would benefit from playing with Panarin and would finish more of the chances Vesey is not converting. The offense is not the problem, that line would not have a single defensively responsible player on it if it wasn't for Vesey. You're trying to solve an issue that doesn't exist. They scored 11 goals in the past two games, and that's not counting what they did over last weekend. Breaking what's working in order to get one single player going is not a great strategy, imo. Edited February 18, 2023 by Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJWantsTheCup Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 If Tarasenko isn't scoring why bother trading for him? Not complaining that he isn't scoring, just trying to get him going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 1 minute ago, RJWantsTheCup said: If Tarasenko isn't scoring why bother trading for him? Not complaining that he isn't scoring, just trying to get him going. If the rest of the lineup is scoring what does it matter? There's obviously something happening where both his line and Panarin's have life. Even if he gives the other team someone else to worry about, that means more open ice for everyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sod16 Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 Quick quiz: who has the highest percentage in shootouts in league history among players with over 20 attempts? Of course he does! https://records.nhl.com/records/skater-records/shootout/best-shootout-scoring-percentage-career Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddious Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 5 hours ago, Sod16 said: Quick quiz: who has the highest percentage in shootouts in league history among players with over 20 attempts? Of course he does! https://records.nhl.com/records/skater-records/shootout/best-shootout-scoring-percentage-career Good. It’ll add value for any trade they make Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunny Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 Imagine what you could get for 11 million right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 23 minutes ago, Dunny said: Imagine what you could get for 11 million right now. Nothing. The trade deadline was yesterday. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunny Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 Touché 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 The guy's a massive talent...watch what he does to win us a cup in a couple months! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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