Phil Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 Conditional 1st (Cup Final) and Robertson for Vatrano. Just do it already. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 2 hours ago, The Dude said: Cool. I was wrong once before too. Let go of Kakko. It's not going to happen here. It's going to take a first to get Vatrano in any capacity. Is Kakko going to net a 1st in trade? The answer is no. So, if you wouldn't trade Miller for Zegras, and the equivalent of a 1st rounder for a retained Vatrano.... What exactly are you willing to trade? Once?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 1 hour ago, Phil said: Conditional 1st (Cup Final) and Robertson for Vatrano. Just do it already. No... No. Just no... The hottest girl at the dance was a seven. That doesn't mean you pay to take home the three. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 5 hours ago, Pete said: Once?! I meant on that day.... obviously 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsm7302 Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 7 hours ago, Phil said: Conditional 1st (Cup Final) and Robertson for Vatrano. Just do it already. I don't think you're too far off but the prospect could be a multitude of options and id say most likely the ECF would be the conditional to move the second to a first for Anaheim to bite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieNextel305 Posted March 8 Author Share Posted March 8 (edited) 8 hours ago, Phil said: Conditional 1st (Cup Final) and Robertson for Vatrano. Just do it already. I think if that were what it took, it would be done already. And after the Guentzel/NYR rumors, I think Verbeek knows Drury is desperate. This isn’t going to be an easy deal to make. Edited March 8 by RichieNextel305 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillyb Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 I’m ready for Drury to pull the rabbit out of the hat. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 (edited) 11 hours ago, The Dude said: Cool. I was wrong once before too. Let go of Kakko. It's not going to happen here. It's going to take a first to get Vatrano in any capacity. Is Kakko going to net a 1st in trade? The answer is no. So, if you wouldn't trade Miller for Zegras, and the equivalent of a 1st rounder for a retained Vatrano.... What exactly are you willing to trade? Personally, I think Zegras has a lot of maturing to do. I’m definitely not trading for him gearing up for a playoff run. Also, I’m not a believer in subtracting “Key” pieces from a roster at this stage of the season. I’m extremely hesitant to give up on Miller but definitely not now. i also don’t love Vatrano all that much but if we have to trade a high pick for him so be it. I feel like he’s the old Dubinsky. Putting up points only because there’s no better options like @Dunnymentioned earlier. Edited March 8 by Kevin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 Somehow I get the feeling Drury is going to surprise us with something really nice today. I have a sneaky suspicion, that's all. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddious Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 4 minutes ago, Ozzy said: Somehow I get the feeling Drury is going to surprise us with something really nice today. I have a sneaky suspicion, that's all. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keirik Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 paging Mr Drury... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 3 minutes ago, Kevin said: Personally, I think Zegras has a lot of maturing to do. I’m definitely not trading for him gearing up for a playoff run. Also, I’m not a believer in subtracting “Key” pieces from a roster at this stage of the season. I’m extremely hesitant to give up on Miller but definitely not now. i also don’t love Vatrano all that much but if we have to trade a high pick for him so be it. I feel like he’s the old Dubinsky. Putting up points only because there’s no better options like @Dunnymentioned earlier. I wouldn't be getting Vatrano because of his current production though. He's a consistent 25-ish goal guy that has had prior chemistry with the 2 guys the team can't get anyone in-house to have chemistry with. Much like with Reilly Smith. I don't care what he's doing this season. I care what he's known to do and what he can do. Plus he's way better than anything the Rangers have at RW. With Zegras. He may need maturing, but he's a definite top skill player in the game. I believe he won't be a center for very long. He's kinda like Chytil, where you can put him there, but he doesn't exactly do center type things (win faceoffs, be defensively responsible, etc etc). But holy shit can he skate and do magic with the puck. I honestly don't think Miller is a key piece to this team. He logs minutes, isn't putting up points and is turnstiled atleast twice a game. Imo he's very replaceable and I feel Gustafsson can pretty much do his job now and for a couple more years at a fraction of the cost. I move Miller at any time to address the need at C or RW. It definitely would have to be for a somewhat special player. Zegras is kinda in that category. If they can swing it cap wise, do that and see what it takes to get Chychrun and back fill with him if the concern is that Gustafsson can't suck on D and pot 30 points like Miller. Chychruns name has been out there, so that's the only reason I brought him up. I know a few people here have been wanting that guy here for years. I never thought he was all that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieNextel305 Posted March 8 Author Share Posted March 8 (edited) I don’t see this happening honestly. Verbeek is in no dire need to deal him. He’s on a reasonable deal for next year too. I’ve heard rumors of an extension. Them dealing him here now would be for an overpay. And that’s why it hasn’t happened yet. And it’s also why it may not happen at all. Just because we need a player who fits Vatranos mold doesn’t mean Anaheim is obligated to trade him to us or at all. If he does end up here in the next 5 hours, it’s going to be a pricy deal for Drury and the Rangers. Edited March 8 by RichieNextel305 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 The Rangers can't really do a conditional 1st that is attractive. What would Anaheim get if the condition misses? A 2026 3rd? Nah, that's not going to cut it. The only way the Rangers can use that 1st round pick is to trade it outright. It goes back to what I've mentioned before. If they trade the 1st, perhaps they can get a mid-round pick back with whatever player comes back. 1st for Vatrano and a 3rd. That kind of deal. You know who might love this kind of deal? Arizona. They are loaded with 2nd and 3rd round picks the next 3 years, but have zero additional 1st round picks. The 1st for a half retained Zucker, a 2024 2nd (Florida's), and a 2025 3rd (NYR pick back). A Zucker rental, a late 2nd rounder, and a late 3rd rounder seems like fair value for a late 1st round pick. Add a 5th rounder to a 3rd team to double retain him, depending on what else Drury wants to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlairBettsBlocksEverything Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 (edited) https://x.com/khallny/status/1766111506314252614?s=46&t=3F4kZtEP41yrANaRJR1EBg Edited March 8 by BlairBettsBlocksEverything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 Our new trade Target: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunny Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 Pacioretty has scored 6 goals in the past 700 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 25 minutes ago, BlairBettsBlocksEverything said: https://x.com/khallny/status/1766111506314252614?s=46&t=3F4kZtEP41yrANaRJR1EBg 2 minutes ago, Dunny said: Pacioretty has scored 6 goals in the past 700 days. Yeah I don’t think this guy has much of anything left in his tank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddious Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 11 minutes ago, Dunny said: Pacioretty has scored 6 goals in the past 700 days. Sounds like the perfect fit next to Zibanajad 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsm7302 Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 14 minutes ago, Dunny said: Pacioretty has scored 6 goals in the past 700 days. Were they 5v5 goals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Heaven Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 Check in on Zucc and see what it would cost to pry him back, UFA after the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddious Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 (edited) 1 minute ago, Blue Heaven said: Check in on Zucc and see what it would cost to pry him back, UFA after the season. no hes not lol Edited March 8 by siddious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 17 minutes ago, Dunny said: Pacioretty has scored 6 goals in the past 700 days. Awesome sound bite. He's got 15 points in his last 26 games. That's better than anybody on the right side of the Rangers aside from Lafreniere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flynn Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 Pacioretty is Italian for Wheeler 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 1 hour ago, The Dude said: I wouldn't be getting Vatrano because of his current production though. He's a consistent 25-ish goal guy that has had prior chemistry with the 2 guys the team can't get anyone in-house to have chemistry with. Much like with Reilly Smith. I don't care what he's doing this season. I care what he's known to do and what he can do. Plus he's way better than anything the Rangers have at RW. With Zegras. He may need maturing, but he's a definite top skill player in the game. I believe he won't be a center for very long. He's kinda like Chytil, where you can put him there, but he doesn't exactly do center type things (win faceoffs, be defensively responsible, etc etc). But holy shit can he skate and do magic with the puck. I honestly don't think Miller is a key piece to this team. He logs minutes, isn't putting up points and is turnstiled atleast twice a game. Imo he's very replaceable and I feel Gustafsson can pretty much do his job now and for a couple more years at a fraction of the cost. I move Miller at any time to address the need at C or RW. It definitely would have to be for a somewhat special player. Zegras is kinda in that category. If they can swing it cap wise, do that and see what it takes to get Chychrun and back fill with him if the concern is that Gustafsson can't suck on D and pot 30 points like Miller. Chychruns name has been out there, so that's the only reason I brought him up. I know a few people here have been wanting that guy here for years. I never thought he was all that. Know for a fact; Zegras is a hard worker who doesn't hesitate to call out nonhackers. He's a local kid too; suspect he would love being here. For that, I'm dealing Othmann and a 1 and not looking back. It brings up the talent level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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