BrooksBurner Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 (edited) The headline is not what the video says, but sure. EDIT: Oh shit, the video hung. Crazy that they think they can get anything for him right now. Edited January 31 by Pete 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted January 31 Author Share Posted January 31 He verbatim says "I know that multiple sources have said Drury is taking calls on Kakko" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 1 minute ago, BrooksBurner said: He verbatim says "I know that multiple sources have said Drury is taking calls on Kakko" I verbatim said the video hung and I didn't hear it the first time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted January 31 Author Share Posted January 31 Just now, Pete said: I verbatim said the video hung and I didn't hear it the first time. You were editing to verbatim say that while I was responding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 4 minutes ago, BrooksBurner said: You were editing to verbatim say that while I was responding Indubitably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Taking calls is completely fine. He's not that difficult a player to upgrade on. The big question is gonna surround exactly who they sell him for (if they do). Is it a short-term piece to win now (think Callahan for St. Louis) or something longer-term? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Br4d Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Kakko isn't going to sell well solo is my guess. Maybe a package with Miller and they're trying to use Kakko to bring out the offer? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valriera Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Silly because kakko is not a problem and you’re going to be selling low. The offer sheet compensation is probably going to be larger in the summer. Pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsm7302 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 He's gotta be a package for a win now deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 4 minutes ago, Br4d said: Kakko isn't going to sell well solo is my guess. Maybe a package with Miller and they're trying to use Kakko to bring out the offer? Been reported the Rangers aren't moving defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted January 31 Author Share Posted January 31 8 minutes ago, Phil said: Taking calls is completely fine. He's not that difficult a player to upgrade on. The big question is gonna surround exactly who they sell him for (if they do). Is it a short-term piece to win now (think Callahan for St. Louis) or something longer-term? I kind of wonder if, given the lack of picks due to rental trades the last couple of seasons, Drury isn't looking at some of these rentals and thinking Kakko might bring back one of them AND a pick. Example: Kakko for Henrique/Duclair and a 3rd. He recoups a lost pick, upgrades the lineup for a few months, and can use $2.4M (Kakko's QO amount) towards a better winger next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Br4d Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 2 minutes ago, Pete said: Been reported the Rangers aren't moving defense. Well, that's one thing you'd say if you were trying to get somebody to pry Miller away from you in a deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Br4d Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 1 minute ago, BrooksBurner said: I kind of wonder if, given the lack of picks due to rental trades the last couple of seasons, Drury isn't looking at some of these rentals and thinking Kakko might bring back one of them AND a pick. Example: Kakko for Henrique/Duclair and a 3rd. He recoups a lost pick, upgrades the lineup for a few months, and can use $2.4M (Kakko's QO amount) towards a better winger next season. This would make sense. I'm not down on Kakko at all but I've kind of seen him as a 3rd liner for awhile and if you can get back a more productive 3rd liner and a pick from a team likely to pick high in the round in question it's probably an acceptable deal. I'd much rather send Miller and Kakko to Minny for Eriksson Ek and an LD but they kind of have to approach us with the idea to have any chance of making it work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddious Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 He’s had 5 nhl seasons give or take and I can’t recall a single play or goal that mattered. I’m fine moving on from him. I’m certain he will become an 80pt player elsewhere but if it helps the team then I’m all for it. the timing however sucks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted January 31 Author Share Posted January 31 8 minutes ago, Br4d said: This would make sense. I'm not down on Kakko at all but I've kind of seen him as a 3rd liner for awhile and if you can get back a more productive 3rd liner and a pick from a team likely to pick high in the round in question it's probably an acceptable deal. I'd much rather send Miller and Kakko to Minny for Eriksson Ek and an LD but they kind of have to approach us with the idea to have any chance of making it work. I've been fully on board going for Ek, but I think for a guy like him you have to be proactive about. Minny doesn't have a reason to deal him unless they really want certain players from another team and that team requests him. I mean there could be an initial call from Minny to gauge interest in Miller or Kakko, but getting Ek in the conversation is probably going to have to be brought up by Drury in response. "We like Miller an awful lot, but we might consider it for the right player coming back. We like Ek. Are you open to negotiating?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 35 minutes ago, Pete said: Been reported the Rangers aren't moving defense. Where? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 8 hours ago, Br4d said: Well, that's one thing you'd say if you were trying to get somebody to pry Miller away from you in a deal. Not everything is a conspiracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Br4d Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 4 hours ago, Pete said: Not everything is a conspiracy. My comment has nothing to do with conspiracy. It has to do with sound business acumen. If you want to sell something as high as possible you may it look unattainable until you get into negotiations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 3 minutes ago, Br4d said: My comment has nothing to do with conspiracy. It has to do with sound business acumen. If you want to sell something as high as possible you may it look unattainable until you get into negotiations. Or maybe they're just happy with their defense and aren't planning on moving anyone? Occam's razor and all. If it's out in the world that they're taking calls on KK, it would be out in the world that they're taking calls on Miller too. Vince was just on the Jeff Marek show and said everything he's hearing about the deadline is regarding the forwards and that the team is happy with their defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindG1000 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 4 minutes ago, Pete said: Or maybe they're just happy with their defense and aren't planning on moving anyone? Occam's razor and all. If it's out in the world that they're taking calls on KK, it would be out in the world that they're taking calls on Miller too. Vince was just on the Jeff Marek show and said everything he's hearing about the deadline is regarding the forwards and that the team is happy with their defense. I'm somewhat alarmed that they're happy with their defense, if that's the case. I don't like the prospect of Gustafsson or Jones on 3LD at the playoffs, and Miller's funk is really testing our LD depth. Maybe I'm overly concerned, or simply need to trust people who I assume are far more expert in this than I am, but I would really want another veteran LD for this run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flynn Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Give me a second... I'm calling the Rangers on Kappo Kakko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlairBettsBlocksEverything Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 You start to wonder if the kid needs a change of scenery to get going. A younger rebuilding team that could give him PP minutes would absolutely take a gamble on him. Im still a big believer in his ability and potential but how long do you keep holding out for potential? idk, would suck to see him moved but I get it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 8 minutes ago, LindG1000 said: I'm somewhat alarmed that they're happy with their defense, if that's the case. I don't like the prospect of Gustafsson or Jones on 3LD at the playoffs, and Miller's funk is really testing our LD depth. Maybe I'm overly concerned, or simply need to trust people who I assume are far more expert in this than I am, but I would really want another veteran LD for this run. Being happy with their defense doesn't mean they won't add to it. Frankly they probably don't have the cap anyway. It just means they're not interested in shipping anyone out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 a playoff team does need to trade for KK, he brings nothing. I would think tanking or rebuilding teams would have interest the most. Look at the assets of teams like SJ or Anaheim or Chicago. And the rangers would probably want to ship him as far away from their division as possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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