Blue Heaven Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 Maybe they should have traded Zac Jones for a 3rd round pick to regain a draft pick.....WTF are the Rangers going to do with him? Can't go through waivers. He doesn't fit, they couldnt trade him for a piece at the deadline. He's wasting a way here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsm7302 Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 2 minutes ago, Blue Heaven said: Maybe they should have traded Zac Jones for a 3rd round pick to regain a draft pick.....WTF are the Rangers going to do with him? Can't go through waivers. He doesn't fit, they couldnt trade him for a piece at the deadline. He's wasting a way here. Honestly....I feel bad for the kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 7 minutes ago, Blue Heaven said: Maybe they should have traded Zac Jones for a 3rd round pick to regain a draft pick.....WTF are the Rangers going to do with him? Can't go through waivers. He doesn't fit, they couldnt trade him for a piece at the deadline. He's wasting a way here. Summer move...He's depth at a postion that takes a beating in the playoffs. He might just be forced in there one day. Never bad to have too many serviceable players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jsm7302 Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 We went to the ECF with Vatrano and Copp....this is another iteration of that lineup with Wennberg and Roslovic. I'm a big fan and think it was the right move. One alone wasn't enough but both fill depth and holes for a roster needed to be complemented not reworked. Let's do this!! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddious Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 4 minutes ago, jsm7302 said: We went to the ECF with Vatrano and Copp....this is another iteration of that lineup with Wennberg and Roslovic. I'm a big fan and think it was the right move. One alone wasn't enough but both fill depth and holes for a roster needed to be complemented not reworked. Let's do this!! Vatrano and copp > Wennberg and roslovic though. and also we had a first line center then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 (edited) 6 minutes ago, siddious said: Vatrano and copp > Wennberg and roslovic though. and also we had a first line center then What are you basing this on? At the time of acquisition, Copp only had 10 more points than Wennberg does, and is nowhere nearly as good defensively. Vatrano had 19 points, Roslovic has 23. These are just the boxcars, I haven't looked at any metrics but right off the bat I'm not seeing any validity to that statement. Edited March 8 by Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddious Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 2 minutes ago, Pete said: What are you basing this on? At the time of acquisition, Copp only had 10 more points than Wennberg does, and is nowhere nearly as good defensively. Vatrano had 19 points, Roslovic has 23. These are just the boxcars, I haven't looked at any metrics but right off the bat I'm not seeing any validity to that statement. I didnt realize ther numbers (copp and vatrano) were so low. Copp in particular. Fair points, I concede. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 6 minutes ago, siddious said: I didnt realize ther numbers (copp and vatrano) were so low. Copp in particular. Fair points, I concede. Again, that's just glossing over the boxcars. It's not exactly a deep dive into the data, I just think the moves made today were the right ones, even if they weren't the splashy or sexy ones. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunny Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 I find it very hard to be upset. Perhaps a little conservative, but the adds are tangible and cost virtually nothing. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 Mr Drury: No matter what goes down from here, I think he did it right. I'm standing by that! 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodka Drunkenski Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 16 minutes ago, Dunny said: I find it very hard to be upset. Perhaps a little conservative, but the adds are tangible and cost virtually nothing. This and didn’t get forced into over paying for anything. Some people will cry that he didn’t do anything but what was there really to do? It’s not about the names, it’s about the fit. We added a great defensive centerman to go against top players and who know what roslovic can be on a top line with Zib and Kreider. Who knows, maybe he turns into a version of Buch for that line 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 (edited) 1 hour ago, Dunny said: I find it very hard to be upset. Perhaps a little conservative, but the adds are tangible and cost virtually nothing. All in all, it didn't impact the ability to do big game hunting in the summer. That's a great thing. It's not that big a boost to the roster this year, but that's A-OK for me. I'd be disappointed if I was in the "we so good" camp though. Edited March 8 by BrooksBurner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJWantsTheCup Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 1 hour ago, Blue Heaven said: Maybe they should have traded Zac Jones for a 3rd round pick to regain a draft pick.....WTF are the Rangers going to do with him? Can't go through waivers. He doesn't fit, they couldnt trade him for a piece at the deadline. He's wasting a way here. I think Jones is signed for next season. He should’ve never signed a 2 year deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaveByRichter35 Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 (edited) Edited March 10 by SaveByRichter35 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long live the King Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 On 3/8/2024 at 1:19 PM, Blue Heaven said: Maybe they should have traded Zac Jones for a 3rd round pick to regain a draft pick.....WTF are the Rangers going to do with him? Can't go through waivers. He doesn't fit, they couldnt trade him for a piece at the deadline. He's wasting a way here. On 3/8/2024 at 3:04 PM, RJWantsTheCup said: I think Jones is signed for next season. He should’ve never signed a 2 year deal. He is signed for next year and should be able to fill Gus' spot just fine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Br4d Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 On 3/8/2024 at 3:19 PM, Blue Heaven said: Maybe they should have traded Zac Jones for a 3rd round pick to regain a draft pick.....WTF are the Rangers going to do with him? Can't go through waivers. He doesn't fit, they couldnt trade him for a piece at the deadline. He's wasting a way here. He's going to go in a summer deal. He'll be the throw-in that nobody will say no too even if they don't really want him all that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Br4d Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 I wish we'd gotten Buchnevich. However StL probably just wasn't that interested in trading him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 2 hours ago, SaveByRichter35 said: Doubt Drury was going to admit he made a mistake by trading him in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieNextel305 Posted March 10 Author Share Posted March 10 I don’t even view someone like Vatrano as someone who was out there. Could he have been had? Sure, every player has a price and every team has a price for that player. Especially a team as bad as Anaheim. But just because he fit our needs and Anaheim stinks doesn’t mean they’re gonna fork him over for free; especially when he has another affordable year left on his deal. You can sell high now, which they sound like they would have been willing to do, or you can hold him and see what the future holds as far as maybe being an attractive option next year at the deadline or if you can get him to re-sign moving forward. So really outside of Guentzel, no sure fire game changer were really “available”on the market. Pittsburgh had to move him. Anaheim didn’t have to move Vatrano. So I think we did okay. I’ve mentioned some questions about Duclair, which I stand by for now. But that’s just debating to debate really. I like Roslovic and I like Wennberg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsm7302 Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 3 hours ago, RichieNextel305 said: I don’t even view someone like Vatrano as someone who was out there. Could he have been had? Sure, every player has a price and every team has a price for that player. Especially a team as bad as Anaheim. But just because he fit our needs and Anaheim stinks doesn’t mean they’re gonna fork him over for free; especially when he has another affordable year left on his deal. You can sell high now, which they sound like they would have been willing to do, or you can hold him and see what the future holds as far as maybe being an attractive option next year at the deadline or if you can get him to re-sign moving forward. So really outside of Guentzel, no sure fire game changer were really “available”on the market. Pittsburgh had to move him. Anaheim didn’t have to move Vatrano. So I think we did okay. I’ve mentioned some questions about Duclair, which I stand by for now. But that’s just debating to debate really. I like Roslovic and I like Wennberg. https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/anaheim-ducks/latest-news/report-ducks-offered-rangers-a-deal-including-vatrano-henrique-kakko-and-a-draft-pick-the-rangers-rejected Interesting move by Drury here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 17 minutes ago, jsm7302 said: https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/anaheim-ducks/latest-news/report-ducks-offered-rangers-a-deal-including-vatrano-henrique-kakko-and-a-draft-pick-the-rangers-rejected Interesting move by Drury here. That was Verbeek being an asshole thinking his 3rd liners were worth that. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieNextel305 Posted March 10 Author Share Posted March 10 (edited) 1 hour ago, jsm7302 said: https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/anaheim-ducks/latest-news/report-ducks-offered-rangers-a-deal-including-vatrano-henrique-kakko-and-a-draft-pick-the-rangers-rejected Interesting move by Drury here. I mean, that’s not saying they’re “available.” That’s saying: “If you’re willing to overpay, you can have the asset.” For instance, look at the rumors with Alex Tuch. He’s not what you would call available, but nothing stopped Drury from picking up the phone because he fit a need for us. But like Anaheim, Buffalo likely either walled him off or said he’s yours for a massive haul. It’s the same thing. You can pry anyone away if you have the assets. That doesn’t mean it’s always in your best interest to do so. Edited March 10 by RichieNextel305 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 6 minutes ago, RichieNextel305 said: I mean, that’s not saying they’re “available.” That’s saying: “If you’re willing to overpay, you can have the asset.” For instance, look at the rumors with Alex Tuch. He’s not what you would call available, but nothing stopped Drury from picking up the phone because he fit a need for us. But like Anaheim, Buffalo likely either walled him off or said he’s yours for a massive haul. It’s the same thing. You can pry anyone away if you have the assets. That doesn’t mean it’s always in your best interest to do so. It's like when husbands ask wives for sex... If all the stars align and you're prepared to fork over the moon and the stars, you might get to hit it. So Drury just went to the bathroom and whacked off... You still get the same release, but it's Wennberg and Roslovic. It's not always about who's the sexiest it's about who gets it done. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 (edited) 2 hours ago, jsm7302 said: https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/anaheim-ducks/latest-news/report-ducks-offered-rangers-a-deal-including-vatrano-henrique-kakko-and-a-draft-pick-the-rangers-rejected Interesting move by Drury here. Yeah. But they did push Kakko up to the Zibanejad line again with Verbeek in the building. My opinion is that the truth is somewhere in the middle. Either the Rangers wanted more from Anaheim (retention), the Rangers didn't want to add the first or someone talked Drury out of this package and he backed out of something he may have had on the table. I think they may have had intentions of trading Kakko. Pushing him up the lineup for that game suggests a showcase. The price was certainly steep. Tough call. Maybe the right call. Edited March 11 by The Dude 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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