2021-22 Off-Season Thread — Go Into the Sadness

[BrooksBurner]

Tell me why Tyler Motte should get more AAV than Cup champion 4th liner Andrew Cogliano?

 

 

 

[Long live the King]

14 minutes ago, rmc51 said:

Tell me why Tyler Motte should get more AAV than Cup champion 4th liner Andrew Cogliano?

 

 

 

 

Cogliano is 35 and has career earnings of $32.5 million.  He chose to stay with the cup winner.

 

Motte is 27 and has career earnings of $5.5 million.  He's trying to get paid.

[BrooksBurner]

4 minutes ago, Long live the King said:

 

Cogliano is 35 and has career earnings of $32.5 million.  He chose to stay with the cup winner.

 

Motte is 27 and has career earnings of $5.5 million.  He's trying to get paid.

 

Good for Motte. Everyone wants to get paid. That doesn't answer why he should get more.

[josh]

Cogliano blows. That’s too much.  He’ll be waived by December. 

[Phil]

5 hours ago, Cash or Czech said:

But people here said “nahhhh he’s fuckin getting $5.5-6mil”!?!

People living in 2013, yes.

[Phil]

45 minutes ago, rmc51 said:

Tell me why Tyler Motte should get more AAV than Cup champion 4th liner Andrew Cogliano?

 

 

 

 

Because Cogliano is 35-years-old and Tyler Motte is 27.

[BrooksBurner]

8 minutes ago, Phil said:

 

Because Cogliano is 35-years-old and Tyler Motte is 27.

 

Should the Rangers pay a 4th liner more money because they are younger, or should they find an older equivalent like Cogliano for less money?

[josh]

Lafreniere- Zibanejad- Kreider 

Panarin - Strome (5m)- Kravtsov 

Goodrow - Chytil-Kakko

Hunt- White (1.6) - Blais

Reaves

 

Lindgen - Fox

Miller - Trouba

Nemeth- Schneider

 

Shesterkin

Holtby (1m)

 

 

[Phil]

11 hours ago, rmc51 said:

 

Should the Rangers pay a 4th liner more money because they are younger, or should they find an older equivalent like Cogliano for less money?

 

That's a different question. Probably the latter. Teams like Tampa and Toronto kind of dined out doing this the last number of seasons. In theory, there should be no real shortage of players willing to come to a winning team to play for cheap.

 

But you asked why Motte should make more. Age is why. His earning potential exceeds Cogliano's by miles.

[BrooksBurner]

16 minutes ago, Phil said:

 

That's a different question. Probably the latter. Teams like Tampa and Toronto kind of dined out doing this the last number of seasons. In theory, there should be no real shortage of players willing to come to a winning team to play for cheap.

 

But you asked why Motte should make more. Age is why. His earning potential exceeds Cogliano's by miles.

Yes. My initial question was phrased poorly. What I was really trying to drive at was why should the Rangers in a cap crunch pay Motte more when they should be able to find comparable veteran options for less. They aren’t really in a position to be throwing chunks of money at 4th liners.

[Phil]

Just now, rmc51 said:

Yes. My initial question was phrased poorly. What I was really trying to drive at was why should the Rangers in a cap crunch pay Motte more when they should be able to find comparable veteran options for less. They aren’t really in a position to be throwing chunks of money at 4th liners.

 

Agreed. They can do it. They just probably shouldn't. For me, it's all about getting an AAV under $2M. If you can get him at like $1.8M, I'm OK giving him the years, but I'm not interested in giving him his pay day. That's what free agency is for. I'm sure someone else will. Let them.

[Pete]

22 minutes ago, rmc51 said:

Yes. My initial question was phrased poorly. What I was really trying to drive at was why should the Rangers in a cap crunch pay Motte more when they should be able to find comparable veteran options for less. They aren’t really in a position to be throwing chunks of money at 4th liners.

The reason is because Rangers. They haven't had a 4th line with any real identity for some time. With Motte at term you get stability instead of a random group of guys every year. 

 

Now if you're gonna ask why other teams don't have that problem with their random mixes of 4th liners, I'll just say there's a GG thread around here somewhere.

[Long live the King]

1 hour ago, rmc51 said:

Yes. My initial question was phrased poorly. What I was really trying to drive at was why should the Rangers in a cap crunch pay Motte more when they should be able to find comparable veteran options for less. They aren’t really in a position to be throwing chunks of money at 4th liners.

 

This is how we end up with McKegg and DiGuiseppi on the 4th line...

[Ozzy]

Am I hallucinating or did I see that the Rangers came to terms with Gauthier on a one year deal???

 

I thought I saw that during the Yankees pre-game on the ticker....but then again, I drink a lot, and can't see very well!

[BrooksBurner]

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Teams are delicately approaching the Flameson Matthew Tkachuk

 

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clubs are calling to feel the Flames out on Tkachuk. It goes without saying the Flames’ lone intention right now is to sign Tkachuk long-term and keep him in the fold. But if he prefers to do a one-year deal and bring himself to UFA in a year, it puts Calgary in a brutal spot.

per Pierre Lebrun in his latest Athletic article.

 

I would almost…almost say fuck a center to just go ahead, trade for Tkachuk, and put fucking Greg McKegg at 2C

[Cash or Czech]

Christ, has Matt Tkachuk been in the league six seasons already? Makes me feel so old. The Flames core really is on the way out. I guess this is their window. 

[Phil]

13 minutes ago, rmc51 said:

 

per Pierre Lebrun in his latest Athletic article.

 

I would almost…almost say fuck a center to just go ahead, trade for Tkachuk, and put fucking Greg McKegg at 2C

 

Conventional logic: winning teams build up the middle!
Rangers: Hold my beer (as they proceed to collect all the left-wings).

[BrooksBurner]

1 minute ago, Phil said:

 

Conventional logic: winning teams build up the middle!
Rangers: Hold my beer (as they proceed to collect all the left-wings).

Let’s be a trend setter. Either we can push building down the wings OR push positionless hockey!

[Cash or Czech]

 

[Phil]

2 minutes ago, Cash or Czech said:

 

 

Seattle will pay him like $60 million ($8.5M AAV).

[Pete]

17 minutes ago, rmc51 said:

Let’s be a trend setter. Either we can push building down the wings OR push positionless hockey!

@Long live the King just updated his lineup to have our 50G scorer on the 4th line. "Don't worry guys, he'll just get a bunch of breakaways while Motte and Blais chip off the glass!"

[Scott]

33 minutes ago, Pete said:

@Long live the King just updated his lineup to have our 50G scorer on the 4th line. "Don't worry guys, he'll just get a bunch of breakaways while Motte and Blais chip off the glass!"

While Chytil puts up another 23 point season and Kakko is "tough" to play against, both in the top six. Sounds good.

[BrooksBurner]

1 hour ago, Pete said:

@Long live the King just updated his lineup to have our 50G scorer on the 4th line. "Don't worry guys, he'll just get a bunch of breakaways while Motte and Blais chip off the glass!"

You’re just not thinking about the matchups Kreider can get on the 4th line

[Long live the King]

Kreider would look good paired with Schneider...and it rhymes!

[josh]

Someone mentioned Chytils 23 points