RichieNextel305 Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Valriera said: So it would be what, Kravstov, couple firsts, and someone like Jones? Does that do it? I think the first we got from Dallas is a huge draw and may be what keeps putting one of the Kid Line members like Kakko in a proposal. Kane holding the cards here could help too if we are a place he wants to come to, which given the media attention this has gotten while literally never being a thing, I’d imagine has some semblance of truth. Where there is smoke, there is fire. It may require the Rangers dealing both their firsts this year, plus potentially VK (if not dealt sooner), for Chicago to do us the favor of retaining some salary. I would imagine Jones, 2 1sts is a good start. More will be obviously be needed. Edited November 23, 2022 by RichieNextel305 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 1 minute ago, RichieNextel305 said: I think the first we got from Dallas is a huge draw and may be what keeps putting one of the Kid Line members like Kakko in a proposal. Kane holding the cards here could help too if we are a place he wants to come to, which given the media attention this has gotten while literally never being a thing, I’d imagine has some semblance of truth. Where there is smoke, there is fire. It may require the Rangers dealing both their firsts this year, plus Kravtsov, for Chicago to do us the favor of retaining some salary. Yeah, they're going to have to have Chicago retain for the trade to make more sense, so they're definitely going to have to throw in a bit more for that to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 11 minutes ago, Sharpshooter said: I think so. Unfortunately this isn't the Kane from even a couple of years ago or so. lol But, most likely a forgone conclusion at this point. 14 points in 18 games playing with the worst linemates he's ever had in his career is still pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long live the King Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 8 minutes ago, Sharpshooter said: I think so. Unfortunately this isn't the Kane from even a couple of years ago or so. lol But, most likely a forgone conclusion at this point. ? He's been 1.18 ppg or better for the last four years. He 'only' has 14 points in 18 games this year because he is being forced to carry Athanasiou and Domi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 (edited) It is. I never said he wasn't still good at all. I would still do it, just saying. They'll just have to give up more, most likely, for the salary retention for it to actually occur. Edited November 23, 2022 by Sharpshooter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieNextel305 Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 I think Kane would explode if dealt here. He’s asleep on his feet in Chicago. Playing here, in this market, with the chance to win with his favorite running mate? I think it would be fantastic for Panarin, and fantastic for Kane. I know a lot is made of their chemistry but it would really be a sight to get them together. MSL was old when he got here. Kane is still in his early 30s. There is still time left and drive left. I think he would explode on the scene. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 These kinds of deals never net the mammoth package everyone expects. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 43 minutes ago, rmc51 said: These kinds of deals never net the mammoth package everyone expects. Two 2nds, a 5th and their best center prospect got the Rangers a 50ish pt guy last deadline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 this team isnt on a brink. giving up 2 first, a roster player and a prospect is a huge loss. It might be what it takes to get Kane but it would only make sense to a team who have a real shot or favorites. Rangers arent there. Not with their struggles with 5 on 5 and porous defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 58 minutes ago, CCCP said: this team isnt on a brink. giving up 2 first, a roster player and a prospect is a huge loss. It might be what it takes to get Kane but it would only make sense to a team who have a real shot or favorites. Rangers arent there. Not with their struggles with 5 on 5 and porous defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieNextel305 Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 1 hour ago, CCCP said: this team isnt on a brink. giving up 2 first, a roster player and a prospect is a huge loss. It might be what it takes to get Kane but it would only make sense to a team who have a real shot or favorites. Rangers arent there. Not with their struggles with 5 on 5 and porous defense. I pretty strongly disagree. No playoff team in the East, outside of Boston, has gotten off to a fast start here. The East is very much wide open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 9 minutes ago, RichieNextel305 said: I pretty strongly disagree. No playoff team in the East, outside of Boston, has gotten off to a fast start here. The East is very much wide open. you seriously think that NYR is a serious cup contender? a favorite? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 1 hour ago, CCCP said: this team isnt on a brink. giving up 2 first, a roster player and a prospect is a huge loss. It might be what it takes to get Kane but it would only make sense to a team who have a real shot or favorites. Rangers arent there. Not with their struggles with 5 on 5 and porous defense. Adding Kane puts them right up in there though. It's definitely costly, but it opens that window that we all thought closed at the end of their run last season. The move will take away from their cupboard. Maybe even damage the potential future. But you have to give to get, and they'd be getting the best available player, with huge salary retention. My only untouchables in the cupboard right now are Schneider and Othmann. Everyone else can go (to a point.. or with more than just Kane coming back). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 what happens with Kane next year? Just curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieNextel305 Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 1 hour ago, CCCP said: you seriously think that NYR is a serious cup contender? a favorite? It’s November. Not a person on this planet knows where we or anyone else is going. Aside from Boston and Jersey, no one else in the East has performed above expectation; every single team is stuck in the mud just like us. We entered the season with high expectations. I think abandoning those expectations after an iffy first 20 games in which they haven’t buried themselves is foolish. Everyone is all lumped together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieNextel305 Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 If you can get Kane and keep the current core of kids, plus Othmann, I do the first rounders we have in the deal all day. I know we all may be down in the dumps with our lousy start. But, getting a player of Kane’s caliber, especially one who is such an animal in the playoffs, can be a major major game changer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 35 minutes ago, RichieNextel305 said: It’s November. Not a person on this planet knows where we or anyone else is going. Aside from Boston and Jersey, no one else in the East has performed above expectation; every single team is stuck in the mud just like us. We entered the season with high expectations. I think abandoning those expectations after an iffy first 20 games in which they haven’t buried themselves is foolish. Everyone is all lumped together. November isn't early. It's late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keirik Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 1 minute ago, Pete said: November isn't early. It's late. In too lazy to look it up but aren't we rapidly approaching some date where thr odds of making the playoffs drop if aren't already in a playoff position? Not sure if it's turkey day or not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 Just now, Keirik said: In too lazy to look it up but aren't we rapidly approaching some date where thr odds of making the playoffs drop if aren't already in a playoff position? Not sure if it's turkey day or not It's tomorrow! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieNextel305 Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Pete said: November isn't early. It's late. There are 60 games to go. And no one has established themselves, outside of the Bruins and NJ going on a scorching hot streak. And even with that hot streak, a loss by them tonight and a win by us puts us 6 points behind them. Edited November 24, 2022 by RichieNextel305 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 4 hours ago, RichieNextel305 said: I think Kane would explode if dealt here. He’s asleep on his feet in Chicago. Playing here, in this market, with the chance to win with his favorite running mate? I think it would be fantastic for Panarin, and fantastic for Kane. I know a lot is made of their chemistry but it would really be a sight to get them together. MSL was old when he got here. Kane is still in his early 30s. There is still time left and drive left. I think he would explode on the scene. I can't wait to celebrate his acquisition with everyone here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 Will we still need to trade Panarin? Asking for a friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 We all want Kane but not at the cost some are suggesting, not when this team is not a serious contender. I wouldn’t bet 4 potential roster players for a chance to catch a lightning in a bottle. I dont need to see how other teams are doing. I know what it takes to win the cup and the rangers are not there yet, even with Kane on the team. now if another more structural coach was hired where the team stopped bleeding endless top chances against, maybe trading 4 assets could be worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 7 minutes ago, Sharpshooter said: I can't wait to celebrate his acquisition with everyone here! You’re part of the problem. Please leave and take your friend Nextel with you. Thank you 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieNextel305 Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, CCCP said: You’re part of the problem. Please leave and take your friend Nextel with you. Thank you Man, I miss those i95s! Fucking indestructible! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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