josh Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 I still think the team face off percentage is a reflection of the system and not of the centermen. There's really just no way all of your centers can be so bad on faceoffs. Faceoffs are really a team statistic. If Quinn was preaching for the wings to skate out to their position as fast as they can, they're not going to help centermen win the draw. I keep saying it, but there are plenty of times where our Center has pulled the puck back, but the other team gains control of it. Coaches stressed they kept their own face off stats. But so does the NHL. And that and the eye test seem to show they didn’t win enough. In the end, even if you are pushing the puck to an area, which may not be counted as a win, it should still eventually even out. But, maybe even the long term Covid effects this for a guy like Zibanejad. Another area to have high hopes for next season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 Agreed. There's a skill to it, but even the best FO winning centers don't win the majority of them clean. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro We heard a lot of people talk this seasons about how winning faceoffs is all about will. Looking at lacrosse, it’s accurate. My parents said the same thing when I played center - when you care, you try. I imagine winning teams have a higher FO%, but is it based on skill or will? When you buy in, does it change that win percentage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 10-to-1 it'll be Panarin-Strome-Goodrow line, and Goodrow will be the faceoff specialist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winter Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 David Pagnotta @TheFourthPeriod · 24m Sounds like the Rangers & Barclay Goodrow are already closing in on a contract. Not sure if it’s done yet, but trending in that direction. please for all that is, no more than 5 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddious Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 Carp seems to think he will cost at least 4.5mil per year according to his last article in the athletic. I sincerely hope drury isn’t that stupid Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 Carp seems to think he will cost at least 4.5mil per year according to his last article in the athletic. I sincerely hope drury isn’t that stupid Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk LOL this guy is a 20-25 point bottom 6 player. He's not touching that kind of $. Carp has lost all connection with the front office. If he somehow happens to be right on this, I'll gladly eat crow while simultaneously being forced to consider Drury as one of the worst GMs in the league already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 Carp seems to think he will cost at least 4.5mil per year according to his last article in the athletic. I sincerely hope drury isn’t that stupid Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Carp also seems to be confusing Goodrow for Coleman. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 Could be. All I know is the Rangers seemingly never won a face off and it feels like it's been an issue for a long time. not sure about you, but it seemed like there were just so many times when they lost them in the dzone so cleanly back to the point it was mind numbing. Not like there was even a scramble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winter Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 Carp seems to think he will cost at least 4.5mil per year according to his last article in the athletic. I sincerely hope drury isn’t that stupid Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Lmao so Buch is worth 8.5mil by that logic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWJD Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 Heard some unsubstantiated rumor of Buchnevich for Horvat. Anyone else hear anything on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 Heard some unsubstantiated rumor of Buchnevich for Horvat. Anyone else hear anything on this? Yes we're discussing it in the off-season thread. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunny Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 Good row is absolutely what they need, but I see some risk in the Cup hangover plus getting paid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 It's definitely possible, but he's also a playoffs hero -- is entirely likely he kind of underwhelms some in the regular season and instantly reminds everyone why they got him in the first round of the playoffs. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fletch Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 Love this acquisition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddious Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 Love this acquisition I’ll love it when he’s signed Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 Seravalli tweeting the freeze includes not signing players until 7/22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThirtyONE Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 Seravalli tweeting the freeze includes not signing players until 7/22 Makes sense otherwise Seattle could just scoop him up and pay him the Rangers agreed contract Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBrowningPI Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 Out of 120 something faceoffs in the playoffs he was only 40%. I'm glad they got him but he's not some faceoff guru. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew a Penalty Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 I doubt he’s an answer to their faceoff woes. There are plenty of options out there in FA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skunkman Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 Is Goodrow protected or not? Post says he is one of the Exposed Why would we not protect him? What the fuck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 https://www.lohud.com/story/sports/nhl/rangers/2021/07/18/what-make-barclay-goodrow-and-other-ny-rangers-decisions/8007405002/ It sounds like it's going to take a five- or six-year deal, but the average annual value guesses are all over the place. I can tell you it won't be in the $2 million-to-$3 million range some fans are hoping for. My sense is $4 million per season, give or take, which is a significant contract for a bottom-six player. 5 or 6 years at 4M AAV would be horrific. I don't care how much everyone deems Goodrow necessary. He's a 2-2.5M player who you maybe pay 3-3.25 to convince to lock in. 4 is absurdity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.wiskers Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 2 things: where the off season thread that discusses Buch for Horvat and secondly Goodrow had a 50% face-off win percentage in the regular season, 52.4 % for his career even though his play-off win percentage was 40. We have to get to the play-offs before we can even worry about play-off percentages, besides we are really getting him for his physical play not his face-off percentage( 111 hits regular season, 68 in 18 play-off games). Sent from my iPad using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.wiskers Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 Sorry found the off season thread Sent from my iPad using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 https://www.lohud.com/story/sports/nhl/rangers/2021/07/18/what-make-barclay-goodrow-and-other-ny-rangers-decisions/8007405002/ 5 or 6 years at 4M AAV would be horrific. I don't care how much everyone deems Goodrow necessary. He's a 2-2.5M player who you maybe pay 3-3.25 to convince to lock in. 4 is absurdity. Agreed. $4 million is sunk cost territory. Wish him the best in free agency and just burn the seventh rounder from your memory. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 Is Goodrow protected or not? Post says he is one of the Exposed Why would we not protect him? What the fuck? Unprotected. Seattle can take him, and have until July 28 to sign or he becomes UFA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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