Sharpshooter Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 Funny I was thinking that the other day too. I like the idea of him more than the actual play he brings on ice. Rangers need more physicality and yet I just don't feel like he brings what they need. Maybe he's less effective because he's the only player on the team who has that kind of game? I don't really know. I thought he'd be more involved in the game. Be more of a pest. I mean he's just not noticeable at all out there. They need physicality. Just being a douchebag really doesn't count as 'toughness', something that they need. They need a player 'like' him, yes, but one that offers more physical play and produces and stays out of the penalty box. Lemieux is merely an asshole with some decent ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThirtyONE Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 They need physicality. Just being a douchebag really doesn't count as 'toughness', something that they need. They need a player 'like' him, yes, but one that offers more physical play and produces and stays out of the penalty box. Lemieux is merely an asshole with some decent ability. Is he even an asshole? Like what does he actually do on the ice that proves that? If he was an asshole to the other team he might actually be useful but instead he's just not on the ice enough to be of value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 Is he even an asshole? Like what does he actually do on the ice that proves that? If he was an asshole to the other team he might actually be useful but instead he's just not on the ice enough to be of value. Right? I feel that is being generous as well. He might get under the opposition's skin a bit, but even then, he really doesn't draw penalties doing that. So, why is he here, really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunny Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 He's OK. He's definitely neutered to some point by the Scoutmaster. He also works hard defensively. He's a true 4th liner, with little upside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 Goat, rooney, blackwell. Bet they’d be a great energy line that puts up points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winter Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 No kidding. Hopefully the front office and coaching staff know this. Removing Blackwell will be removing a worthy player. He just has no long term future here and so he shouldn't be playing over Kravstov, Kakko, or Buch. Blackwell is certainly Seattle bait 725k for one of their 3rd liners will be a good pick up for em from what we expose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 Rooney is a pretty damn good 4th line center for a playoff contender; the guy wins draws pretty well, very responsible in his own end and also can score a little bit. He stays outta the box and plays with some toughness. I'm curious to see what happens with him come April 12th. I'll bet a Western Conf team could use a guy like him down the stretch, and in the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddious Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 Rooney is a pretty damn good 4th line center for a playoff contender; the guy wins draws pretty well, very responsible in his own end and also can score a little bit. He stays outta the box and plays with some toughness. I'm curious to see what happens with him come April 12th. I'll bet a Western Conf team could use a guy like him down the stretch, and in the playoffs. It's a shame to lose him because I like him but you have to consider Barron is probably ready to make the jump and if you can get assets for Rooney then you might as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 If Rooney is indeed a stop-gap, I don't think you could have asked for me out of a fourth line center. He was always steady in New Jersey, and he was here too. He chipped in nicely offensively and plays a really solid defensive game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ThirtyONE Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 Kreider - Zibanejad - Buchnevich Panarin - Strome - Kakko Lafreniere - Chytil - Kravstov Lemieux - Rooney - Blackwell The Rangers emotional rollercoaster has me at the peak of excitement if this is the lineup at some point in the next few games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 Kreider - Zibanejad - Buchnevich Panarin - Strome - Kakko Lafreniere - Chytil - Kravstov Lemieux - Rooney - Blackwell The Rangers emotional rollercoaster has me at the peak of excitement if this is the lineup at some point in the next few games. Fans are always saying "Lemieux - Rooney - Blackwell" won't be here when they are good. But that is the makings of a very good 4th line. They go to the net, they play defense, they draw penalties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 Kreider - Zibanejad - Buchnevich Panarin - Strome - Kakko Lafreniere - Chytil - Kravstov Lemieux - Rooney - Blackwell The Rangers emotional rollercoaster has me at the peak of excitement if this is the lineup at some point in the next few games. That looks wonderful. It will look even better when Eichel is a part of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThirtyONE Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 Fans are always saying "Lemieux - Rooney - Blackwell" won't be here when they are good. But that is the makings of a very good 4th line. They go to the net, they play defense, they draw penalties. I have no problem with those guys. Lemieux is a bit disappointing and I'd rather lose him to Seattle than the other two, but I agree. Blackwell has proved himself more than valuable. I realized I forgot Gauthier. Doesn't look like he has a real chance, does it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 If guys like Rooney and Blackwell stick around, I don't really see a need for Gauthier. He has played a bit better this year, but I think he's more expendable than those other guys are. He and Lemieux are the forward on the bottom six I want gone the most. Between finding players that are better and/or more influx of younger talent, I really don't see a place for him going forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 I have no problem with those guys. Lemieux is a bit disappointing and I'd rather lose him to Seattle than the other two, but I agree. Blackwell has proved himself more than valuable. I realized I forgot Gauthier. Doesn't look like he has a real chance, does it? Gauthier should have been sent to the AHL a year ago. I think Qunny might have a type. Big boys on bottom [6]. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paddynyc Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 Kreider - Zibanejad - Buchnevich Panarin - Strome - Kakko Lafreniere - Chytil - Kravstov Lemieux - Rooney - Blackwell The Rangers emotional rollercoaster has me at the peak of excitement if this is the lineup at some point in the next few games. I like what I see here, but my only concern is having 2 rookies on the third line will put a lot more pressure on Chytl covering for their mistakes. I also like having Blackwell in the lineup if Kakko or Krastov are not having a good night you can put him up in the 2nd or 3rd line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sod16 Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 Gauthier has a vastly higher upside and is at a totally different stage than Rooney and Blackwell. If we put Gauthier on Fish Oil supplements or some of those brain vitamins on late night TV, we might have quite a player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodrigueGabriel Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 Gauthier has a vastly higher upside and is at a totally different stage than Rooney and Blackwell. If we put Gauthier on Fish Oil supplements or some of those brain vitamins on late night TV, we might have quite a player. I remember when we first got Gauthier and I watched some You Tube videos of conversations with him. I was, like, ooooh, not a lot up top. I agree there's upside, but he isn't replacing anyone on the top 9, right? He has to buy into a 4th line mentality or he has nowhere to go. Up to now he has thought of himself as a goal scorer. He has to change his identity to stick, and that's not easy to do. I think there's a pretty good chance he goes in whatever deal we make for a center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 I don't see their being a place for Gauthier going forward, heck there's barely a place for him now most nights. The only way I can see it is if they send a number of forwards to buffalo in a deal for Jack. Otherwise I agree with what you're saying his identity isn't one of a 4th line guy (although he's not a goal scorer at this level either so there's that too). Upside, sure I guess so but also I guy I think that we quickly forget once he's gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThirtyONE Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 I don't see their being a place for Gauthier going forward, heck there's barely a place for him now most nights. The only way I can see it is if they send a number of forwards to buffalo in a deal for Jack. Otherwise I agree with what you're saying his identity isn't one of a 4th line guy (although he's not a goal scorer at this level either so there's that too). Upside, sure I guess so but also I guy I think that we quickly forget once he's gone. He can be one of the 4 former first rounders we send along with Brendan Smith and DeAngelo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddious Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 Kreider - Zibanejad - Buchnevich Panarin - Strome - Kakko Lafreniere - Chytil - Kravstov Lemieux - Rooney - Blackwell The Rangers emotional rollercoaster has me at the peak of excitement if this is the lineup at some point in the next few games. Replace Lemieux with gauthier and I’m right there with you Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonybologna Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 Replace Lemieux with gauthier and I’m right there with you Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk I would also prefer this, that's a 4th line that can score some goals and defends well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sod16 Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 Protect: Zib, Panarin, Kreider, Strome, Buch, Chytil. That leaves one more spot, with a choice of protecting Gauthier, Lemieux or Howden (there's no way they protect a 28 year old journeyman like Blackwell or Rooney). Between those three, they would probably protect Gauthier. Problematic as he may be, he has more of an upside than the other two. Neither Lemieux nor Howden has ever scored a goal like the one Gauthier scored in Philly last week (before earning a scratch with dumb penalties). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddious Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 ^ the only problem I’m noticing with gauthier is that he’s not getting enough ice time this season. He has played well and has not been rewarded at all. He’s essentially kreider 2.0 with slightly less upside. I like him a lot. Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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