Phil Posted March 1, 2021 Posted March 1, 2021 The Rangers should have the necessary cap space to accommodate Vitali Kravtsov if, as expected, he is recalled from his loan to KHL Chelyabinsk when his team’s run is up in the KHL playoffs that commence Wednesday, The Post has been told. The 21-year-old winger, selected No. 9 overall in the 2018 draft, finished with 24 points in 49 games after scoring his 16th goal in Friday’s regular-season finale. There has been no official declaration from either the Rangers or Kravtsov’s camp about either’s intentions following the end of Chelyabinsk’s season, but a call to New York should be anticipated barring an unforeseen development. https://nypost.com/2021/02/28/vitali-kravtsov-expected-to-join-rangers-soon/ Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk
josh Posted March 1, 2021 Posted March 1, 2021 He's been pretty beat up, recently. Still a month away, at minimum I can't wait to see this kid play with talented forwards... Hopefully eventually
Keirik Posted March 1, 2021 Posted March 1, 2021 Let’s hope for a sweep honestly. Not sure there is much else the kid could do there. Then again, I’m not sure I want Quinn getting to the kid.
BrooksBurner Posted March 1, 2021 Posted March 1, 2021 Sweet. Can't wait to see him try to make an impact with 7 min a night with Rooney and Lemieux, and being told he has to dump and chase.
siddious Posted March 1, 2021 Posted March 1, 2021 I mean.. cool hes a good prospect and all but I highly doubt he helps the rangers any more than kakko/laf are right now.
ThirtyONE Posted March 1, 2021 Posted March 1, 2021 I mean.. cool hes a good prospect and all but I highly doubt he helps the rangers any more than kakko/laf are right now. That's not even the point. The Rangers aren't making the playoffs this year. Kids like Kravstov should be playing games over some of the guys currently on the roster - even if those guys are playing okay. My concern is that Kravstov did not gel with Quinn last time around. I really don't want to hear about how Kravstov needs to play defense.
LindG1000 Posted March 1, 2021 Posted March 1, 2021 That's not even the point. The Rangers aren't making the playoffs this year. Kids like Kravstov should be playing games over some of the guys currently on the roster - even if those guys are playing okay. My concern is that Kravstov did not gel with Quinn last time around. I really don't want to hear about how Kravstov needs to play defense. Kravtsov needs to play defense. What good is scoring if you're giving it back every time? 1
ThirtyONE Posted March 1, 2021 Posted March 1, 2021 Kravtsov needs to play defense. What good is scoring if you're giving it back every time? Been over this a million times by now, but IMO: you give players confidence that they can play at this level first, then you teach them how to do it better. They get confidence by playing their game and potting a few goals, getting a few points. Don't stifle what they have before their careers even begin. I want to watch exciting hockey. And to me, exciting hockey is really about 6-7 players playing well: Lafreniere, Kakko, Miller, Fox, Chytil, Shesterkin and eventually Kravstov. I don't want to watch Kravstov dump and chase for 9 minutes a night. Id rather watch the team lose and these players play an exciting game than watch them go .500 (or worse) which is what they're doing now. 1
Ozzy Posted March 1, 2021 Posted March 1, 2021 Kravtsov needs to play defense. What good is scoring if you're giving it back every time? Yeah man, the guy's gotta know how to defend in the NHL...no doubt. Look at the old Russian 5 in Detroit back in the 90's; Those fucking guys could lock down the Maffia out there, and then turn around and pull a rabbit out of their ass on offense. Federov was arguably one of the best defenders in the league...He even won the Selke in '94 and '96! Larionov and Kozlov were no slouches either! There's a reason that team won the Cup 3 times....and having guys like Federov out there that can defend is a vital reason. No player should be above knowing how to defend in my book!
LindG1000 Posted March 1, 2021 Posted March 1, 2021 Been over this a million times by now, but IMO: you give players confidence that they can play at this level first, then you teach them how to do it better. They get confidence by playing their game and potting a few goals, getting a few points. Don't stifle what they have before their careers even begin. I want to watch exciting hockey. And to me, exciting hockey is really about 6-7 players playing well: Lafreniere, Kakko, Miller, Fox, Chytil, Shesterkin and eventually Kravstov. I don't want to watch Kravstov dump and chase for 9 minutes a night. Id rather watch the team lose and these players play an exciting game than watch them go .500 (or worse) which is what they're doing now. Then go watch the Oilers and count the trophies in their trophy case since 1990. Run and gun hockey is crazy fun. It never wins championships, and I'd much rather have all of those players looking to Patrice Bergeron or Anze Kopitar as role models than playing like the Harlem Globetrotters. If that means they look like third liners for a few months in their first season or two, so be it.
ThirtyONE Posted March 1, 2021 Posted March 1, 2021 Then go watch the Oilers and count the trophies in their trophy case since 1990. Run and gun hockey is crazy fun. It never wins championships, and I'd much rather have all of those players looking to Patrice Bergeron or Anze Kopitar as role models than playing like the Harlem Globetrotters. If that means they look like third liners for a few months in their first season or two, so be it. *years* Okay, thanks for the tips.
LindG1000 Posted March 1, 2021 Posted March 1, 2021 *years* Okay, thanks for the tips. I'd rather have our players win Stanley Cups instead of Art Ross trophies, but hey, do you.
Albatrosss Posted March 1, 2021 Posted March 1, 2021 Been over this a million times by now, but IMO: you give players confidence that they can play at this level first, then you teach them how to do it better. They get confidence by playing their game and potting a few goals, getting a few points. Don't stifle what they have before their careers even begin. I want to watch exciting hockey. And to me, exciting hockey is really about 6-7 players playing well: Lafreniere, Kakko, Miller, Fox, Chytil, Shesterkin and eventually Kravstov. I don't want to watch Kravstov dump and chase for 9 minutes a night. Id rather watch the team lose and these players play an exciting game than watch them go .500 (or worse) which is what they're doing now. i agree. let the rookies find their game in the NHL and then teach them to play defense. once the team is ready to be taken to the next level, then i'd worry about 'defense wins championships'
Albatrosss Posted March 1, 2021 Posted March 1, 2021 Yeah man, the guy's gotta know how to defend in the NHL...no doubt. Look at the old Russian 5 in Detroit back in the 90's; Those fucking guys could lock down the Maffia out there, and then turn around and pull a rabbit out of their ass on offense. Federov was arguably one of the best defenders in the league...He even won the Selke in '94 and '96! Larionov and Kozlov were no slouches either! There's a reason that team won the Cup 3 times....and having guys like Federov out there that can defend is a vital reason. No player should be above knowing how to defend in my book! they had Bowman. we will need "Bowman" at some point too
Long live the King Posted March 1, 2021 Posted March 1, 2021 That's not even the point. The Rangers aren't making the playoffs this year. Kids like Kravstov should be playing games over some of the guys currently on the roster - even if those guys are playing okay. My concern is that Kravstov did not gel with Quinn last time around. I really don't want to hear about how Kravstov needs to play defense. By not making the team as a 19 year old? 1
Ozzy Posted March 1, 2021 Posted March 1, 2021 they had Bowman. we will need "Bowman" at some point too They learned how to play Bowman's "Left Wing Lock"...which was not very well known by Russian players....they had to learn it though. Sure, they had Bowman, but those guys had talent that could be carried over to build another player!! :rofl:
BrooksBurner Posted March 1, 2021 Posted March 1, 2021 By not making the team as a 19 year old? Wasn't there a bit of a rift with regards to the message given to him when he was sent down and did not make the team? I thought I remember reading a translated interview with Kravtsov later where he said he was told they don't view him as a bottom 6 player and that's the only opening that was on the team at the time. He sounded salty about not making the team over players like Brendan Smith. I'm not sure where that leaves him on a fully healthy squad here even now other than the bottom 6 though, which goes against what he was apparently told.
Long live the King Posted March 1, 2021 Posted March 1, 2021 Wasn't there a bit of a rift with regards to the message given to him when he was sent down and did not make the team? I thought I remember reading a translated interview with Kravtsov later where he said he was told they don't view him as a bottom 6 player and that's the only opening that was on the team at the time. He sounded salty about not making the team over players like Brendan Smith. I'm not sure where that leaves him on a fully healthy squad here even now other than the bottom 6 though, which goes against what he was apparently told. He was an immature teenager. Got scratched/benched multiple times in Hartford. Went back to Russia for a minute got sent down by his KHL club. Then back came back in December and was reportedly a different player. Only reason he went back to Russia this year was COVID and the cap bonus situation.
siddious Posted March 1, 2021 Posted March 1, 2021 That's not even the point. The Rangers aren't making the playoffs this year. Kids like Kravstov should be playing games over some of the guys currently on the roster - even if those guys are playing okay. My concern is that Kravstov did not gel with Quinn last time around. I really don't want to hear about how Kravstov needs to play defense. You're right. For some reason I took the article in a "hes coming to help" sort of way. Not enough coffee for me this morning my apologies. Where do you slot him though? Kredier- Zib- Buch Panarin-strome-Kakko Laf-Chytil- Kravtsov? Gauthier-Howden-Blackwell (rooney, lemieux as the spares) I mean a bit soft but talent is there I guess.
Albatrosss Posted March 1, 2021 Posted March 1, 2021 You're right. For some reason I took the article in a "hes coming to help" sort of way. Not enough coffee for me this morning my apologies. Where do you slot him though? Kredier- Zib- Buch Panarin-strome-Kakko Laf-Chytil- Kravtsov? Gauthier-Howden-Blackwell (rooney, lemieux as the spares) I mean a bit soft but talent is there I guess. lines look good to me, accept i'd switch Howden with Rooney. if those lines tick, we're set
BrooksBurner Posted March 1, 2021 Posted March 1, 2021 Kravtsov about to be showcased for Buffalo in an Eichel deal
Flynn Posted March 1, 2021 Posted March 1, 2021 You're right. For some reason I took the article in a "hes coming to help" sort of way. Not enough coffee for me this morning my apologies. Where do you slot him though? Kredier- Zib- Buch Panarin-strome-Kakko Laf-Chytil- Kravtsov? Gauthier-Howden-Blackwell (rooney, lemieux as the spares) I mean a bit soft but talent is there I guess. Thats it right there. I’d add in sitting the D more regularly to see what Reunanen has to offer. This season is over. Time to grow, not play PDG and Rooney
Kevin Posted March 1, 2021 Posted March 1, 2021 Thats it right there. I’d add in sitting the D more regularly to see what Reunanen has to offer. This season is over. Time to grow, not play PDG and Rooney I play 27 y.o. Rooney over 22 y.o. Howden every day of the week. What exactly does Howden bring to the table? Howden, at his best, is Kevin Rooney. Rooney at his worst is still better than normal Howden.
Winter Posted March 1, 2021 Posted March 1, 2021 Sweet. Can't wait to see him try to make an impact with 7 min a night with Rooney and Lemieux, and being told he has to dump and chase. funny, sad but true.
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