Ozzy Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 I dont think we know what we have/get for Zibanejad. That's the key, Josh man...Is he the 41 goal scorer? or is he what we're seeing this year?? I have no clue what we could get and what's more is we don't know what he'll command as a UFA in another season. I'm glad I don't have to make that call, but I'm still leaning towards Zibby being our number one guy. If I had to take a stab at it, I'd say he's a 30+ goal scorer, maybe 80-85 points a season...good 2 ways, PK'er, PP'er, good skater and solid #1 center. Eichel to me is a little better than that, but how much we give up in players may be the deciding factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 That's the key, Josh man...Is he the 41 goal scorer? or is he what we're seeing this year?? I have no clue what we could get and what's more is we don't know what he'll command as a UFA in another season. I'm glad I don't have to make that call, but I'm still leaning towards Zibby being our number one guy. If I had to take a stab at it, I'd say he's a 30+ goal scorer, maybe 80-85 points a season...good 2 ways, PK'er, PP'er, good skater and solid #1 center. Eichel to me is a little better than that, but how much we give up in players may be the deciding factor. I think he's more in the middle of what we're seeing now, compared to last year. He's not as great as he was last year, but not as bad as we're seeing this year. In fact, he's probably more of what we saw last year, but he was insanely hot. He will always be a good two-way player, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 Yeah I agree, Sharpy. :thumbs: The weird thing is that you see these games against the Flyers where he's just absolutely invincible, and it makes you wonder if he's got another level. This is a tough season to get a bead on Zibby. He started out so poorly and didn't even look like he was skating well. I'm willing to give Zib a pass on the first half of this season. Let's see what happens the rest of the way. I'm very curious to see what goes down the rest of the season....even with the kids. Gonna be a fun ride, and even more fun to watch!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodka Drunkenski Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 Yeah I agree, Sharpy. :thumbs: The weird thing is that you see these games against the Flyers where he's just absolutely invincible, and it makes you wonder if he's got another level. This is a tough season to get a bead on Zibby. He started out so poorly and didn't even look like he was skating well. I'm willing to give Zib a pass on the first half of this season. Let's see what happens the rest of the way. I'm very curious to see what goes down the rest of the season....even with the kids. Gonna be a fun ride, and even more fun to watch!!! Of course it will be fun for you, Mr. Tequila Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 Of course it will be fun for you, Mr. Tequila ...you're welcome to come join, sir!!! :cheers: You'd be surprised how great this team looks when you're tipping a few!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 How many tequilas would it take to convince you Georgiev is actually Ken Dryden? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 How many tequilas would it take to convince you Georgiev is actually Ken Dryden? I'd need to be hypnotized, Sharpy!!! LOL Georgie would have to grow another foot to be "Mr. Four Story"!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 By the way, if the Rangers stick with Quinn, he has coached Eichel before. I know there's been rumors about Eichel's attitude...guessing Quinn would know firsthand whether it is true or bologna. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThirtyONE Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 By the way, if the Rangers stick with Quinn, he has coached Eichel before. I know there's been rumors about Eichel's attitude...guessing Quinn would know firsthand whether it is true or bologna. Quinn coached eichel for 6 months. And he likely wouldn’t be the coach if the rangers landed Eichel, effectively ended the rebuild, and starting trying to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted April 6, 2021 Author Share Posted April 6, 2021 Quinn coached eichel for 6 months. And he likely wouldn’t be the coach if the rangers landed Eichel, effectively ended the rebuild, and starting trying to win. Is there anything more than fan speculation that points to this? Because the longer he goes without getting fired, the less chance there is of him getting fired IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santroy79 Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 Stay the course. ^^^^ This 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 Is there anything more than fan speculation that points to this? Because the longer he goes without getting fired, the less chance there is of him getting fired IMO. I don't think he's getting fired at all. There was certainly some risk, I think, when the team was just floundering, with Zibanejad and others seriously struggling to look like NHL players, but that ship has been righted, and though the yearly projections on Lafreniere and Kakko still look like shit, both are looking like better hockey players with each passing game. I just don't think the team is ready to pull the trigger on this (yet). That said, I'd imagine that if the team gets Eichel, part of that reason (however small) will be the familiarity with Quinn. That familiarity could even been seen as an insurance policy to lift Eichel's spirits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 I don't think he's getting fired at all. There was certainly some risk, I think, when the team was just floundering, with Zibanejad and others seriously struggling to look like NHL players, but that ship has been righted, and though the yearly projections on Lafreniere and Kakko still look like shit, both are looking like better hockey players with each passing game. I just don't think the team is ready to pull the trigger on this (yet). That said, I'd imagine that if the team gets Eichel, part of that reason (however small) will be the familiarity with Quinn. That familiarity could even been seen as an insurance policy to lift Eichel's spirits. And if it doesnt work, Eichel will set the NHL record with having 1,294 different coaches during his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 I don't think he's getting fired at all. There was certainly some risk, I think, when the team was just floundering, with Zibanejad and others seriously struggling to look like NHL players, but that ship has been righted, and though the yearly projections on Lafreniere and Kakko still look like shit, both are looking like better hockey players with each passing game. I just don't think the team is ready to pull the trigger on this (yet). That said, I'd imagine that if the team gets Eichel, part of that reason (however small) will be the familiarity with Quinn. That familiarity could even been seen as an insurance policy to lift Eichel's spirits. i think this year he wont get canned but next year, if there's no progress and the team is hovering around .500 he will be sacked. IMO the team must make the POs next season or bye-bye Harlequinn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 Something about Eichel... just doesnt move the needle for me, especially with the cost to acquire plus contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puck Head Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 Quinn coached eichel for 6 months. And he likely wouldn’t be the coach if the rangers landed Eichel, effectively ended the rebuild, and starting trying to win. Closer to 8-9 months, but I get your point Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 This last few games with Kakko and Laffy putting things together, sorry, no way I'm parting with these guys. Know we (I) have a bias to our draftees, but both look like quality players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LONG LONG LONG TIME FAN Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 Constantly injured. 'Nuff said about this ill-advised deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finestuff Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 I just want to put my trade's prediction up here, what do you guys think about it: Buch, Howden, Robertson +1st. The way Adams operates thus far, we can definitely fleece him on that deal giving the circumstances on their side as well. Mb sweeten the pot just a little bit to convince him by swapping Howden with Chytil, which i don't want to. Quite frankly, i don't think we are up to pay king's ransom this summer for Jack's service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 I just want to put my trade's prediction up here, what do you guys think about it: Buch, Howden, Robertson +1st. The way Adams operates thus far, we can definitely fleece him on that deal giving the circumstances on their side as well. Mb sweeten the pot just a little bit to convince him by swapping Howden with Chytil, which i don't want to. Quite frankly, i don't think we are up to pay king's ransom this summer for Jack's service. Would you take that deal for Panarin? Not considering Eichel is younger, cheaper, and a center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 I just want to put my trade's prediction up here, what do you guys think about it: Buch, Howden, Robertson +1st. The way Adams operates thus far, we can definitely fleece him on that deal giving the circumstances on their side as well. Mb sweeten the pot just a little bit to convince him by swapping Howden with Chytil, which i don't want to. Quite frankly, i don't think we are up to pay king's ransom this summer for Jack's service. Buffalo would laugh and hang up the phone honestly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 Buffalo seems to be a different team since they changed coaches. They did a number on the Flyers over the weekend with that comeback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 Buffalo seems to be a different team since they changed coaches. They did a number on the Flyers over the weekend with that comeback. Getting Ullmark back makes a huge difference too. I think their other goaltenders combined only had two or three wins, something like that, when he was out. Insane, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 Buffalo would laugh and hang up the phone honestly. Getting Ullmark back makes a huge difference too. I think their other goaltenders combined only had two or three wins, something like that, when he was out. Insane, really. They're going to want an ass load back for Eichel, when and IF they do deal him though, Sharpy...I agree with you guys. It would probably suit Buffalo best to keep him there, because I don't think the Rangers are going to deviate from where they're going, and I also don't think Buffalo will, or should settle for getting hosed in a deal. Ullmark is dynamite in net, as we saw last week, and they can build around that. The only really shitty contract they have is Skinner, and hopefully for them, he gets his shit together again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 If I’m Buffalo, and my partner is the Rangers, I want Kakko, Chytil, Nils Lundkvist, plus a 1st. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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