Albatrosss Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 10 hours ago, RichieNextel305 said: I don’t understand the Islanders. My theory on being too attached to a roster is that the Rangers handled things right with their elite teams in the mid-2010s. You had teams that won divisions, a Presidents Trophy, an Eastern Conference Title. And when things began to tail off, management understood this notion: if we couldn’t win with this little engine that could when they were all at their best (Henrik included), are we going to win with them getting older? The answer was a resounding no. They dealt Brassard, a staple, at the right time. Stepan. They cut ties with people like Girardi. This was all before the Letter. They knew it was time for new blood. Lou, for whatever reason, is living off of 2020 and 2021. They got close. They were good. They were tough to play against. It was never a team built on talent, but instead it was the depth and the grit. But it’s a hard brand to sustain across many seasons and these guys are mostly older and still there. And in that time, aside for grabbing Horvat, no major moves have been made to compete with the big boys in today’s NHL. They just don’t have enough talent. Barzal is good, but is he the play driver on a Cup Winner? I see him more as a secondary guy. Same for Horvat. If this ends the way I think we can all agree it likely is going to end, it’s time to nuke that core and just start over. They had their chance. They, like the mid-2010s Rangers, had a few good kicks at the can. But it’s time for new blood in there. If Panarin wanted to sign in Detroit and not the rangers, we’d be in exactly same place, if not worse. Lets not forget who carried this team this year to where it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sod16 Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 4 hours ago, Sharpshooter said: Yeah, Lou really has not a very good job the last couple of years or so, and it's rearing its ugly head. Face it, this Islanders team really isn't a playoff team. Their place in the standings is because they lost a ton of overtime games. Now they're even older and a below average team, with not a ton of hope in sight. Sure, credit them for getting to that point a lot, but still, technically they lost well over 40 games and you should not be a playoff team in that case. The Islanders window was rather smaller, compared to the Rangers. Unfortunately they ran into Tampa Bay during their run. Those things happen. Winning can be about timing as well. Lou has stood pat more than he should have. More recently, I think he's made a couple of good moves in the Horvat and Romanov trades. Looking at their roster, the problem is that moving on from the older players doesn't do much good if you don't have good younger ones in the pipeline, and Brock Nelson is probably the only one of their older players who would bring a good young player in a trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 1 minute ago, Sod16 said: Lou has stood pat more than he should have. More recently, I think he's made a couple of good moves in the Horvat and Romanov trades. Looking at their roster, the problem is that moving on from the older players doesn't do much good if you don't have good younger ones in the pipeline, and Brock Nelson is probably the only one of their older players who would bring a good young player in a trade. Not too many good moves lately for Lou, though, has really hamstrung the Islanders for the foreseeable future, I think. Those trades you mentioned were the only real good ones. I know a lot of Islanders fans haven't been happy with the job he's been doing overall the last three years or so. Getting Horvat was good, but he was traded from the Canucks just before they started becoming really good, and traded to the Islanders just when they were starting to slide down. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieNextel305 Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 2 hours ago, Albatrosss said: If Panarin wanted to sign in Detroit and not the rangers, we’d be in exactly same place, if not worse. Lets not forget who carried this team this year to where it is. And if my aunt had balls, she’d be my uncle. Lol. Bottom line is we have that game breaking talent. And it’s not only him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodka Drunkenski Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 3 hours ago, Albatrosss said: If Panarin wanted to sign in Detroit and not the rangers, we’d be in exactly same place, if not worse. Let’s not forget who carried this team this year to where it is. While I understand what you’re saying, there’s no way to know how this team is structured if they don’t sign Panarin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Br4d Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 6 hours ago, siddious said: Presidents have baby-sitters. Not so much the President of an NHL franchise. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 5 hours ago, Vodka Drunkenski said: While I understand what you’re saying, there’s no way to know how this team is structured if they don’t sign Panarin. That’s true but there’s no other Panarin out there who might’ve been available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 5 hours ago, RichieNextel305 said: And if my aunt had balls, she’d be my uncle. Lol. Bottom line is we have that game breaking talent. And it’s not only him. I’m just saying, you are ragging on the piles and Lou but we had Panarin and Fox basically fall into our lap. Doesn’t take a genius to sign those too. Try building a team when no one wants to play for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodka Drunkenski Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 7 hours ago, Albatrosss said: That’s true but there’s no other Panarin out there who might’ve been available maybe they go after Tkachuk instead of Florida and restructure the team differently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillyb Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 Freddy looks calm af. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillyb Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 Barzal with a snipe to tie it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuc Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 2-1 isles with 10 to go. Can they hold on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillyb Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 NOPE 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abe Froman Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 Go Canes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abe Froman Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 Gettin' chippy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karan Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 Hope this goes until tonight. Need the Canes to get as banged up as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abe Froman Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 Time to put these assholes away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillyb Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 Isles win in OT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abe Froman Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 Islanders delay the inevitable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsm7302 Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 Clap it up for the Isles. Lets see em take one more! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kick save and a beauty Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 Every period in that series from now on is to the benefit of the Rangers. Until it gets to 3-3 I am a fan of this Islanders team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abe Froman Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 If I rooted for the Islanders I would probably puke. Fuck them always. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kick save and a beauty Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 4 minutes ago, Abe Froman said: If I rooted for the Islanders I would probably puke. Fuck them always. Go ahead and puke. Small price to pay for wearing down our next opponent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abe Froman Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 1 minute ago, Kick save and a beauty said: Go ahead and puke. Small price to pay for wearing down our next opponent. Nope. This team can win on their own, they don't need to count on some other team being worn down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuc Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 35 minutes ago, Abe Froman said: Nope. This team can win on their own, they don't need to count on some other team being worn down. You still take every advantage you can get. Isles winning a game or two that at the end of the day will be meaningless isn’t the end of the world. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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