Friedman Peter Laviolette Is Next Rangers' Head Coach; Signs 3-Year Deal

[Phil]

5 hours ago, The Dude said:

What?

 

It's a riff from their latest episode:

 

 

The whole rizz thing starts the show, if you're interested. You'll laugh... I think.

[Phil]

Why Peter Laviolette Is a Good Fit as the Rangers' Next Head Coach

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As currently constructed, this team is not built to send pucks behind defenders and chase. Rather, the Rangers' makeup demands lots of creating zone entries with possession and scoring from quick sequences. Lots of speed on transition rushes and lots of east-west passing upon entering the zone.

 

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Adam Fox is one of the league's top puck-moving defensemen. Ryan Lindgren is competent, making respectable passes up the ice when he isn't deferring to Fox. The second pairing was atrocious at zone exits. Braden Schneider has the ability to match Lindgren as a secondary puck-mover but he received no help on the left side and has been forced in over his head.

It will be tough for general manager Chris Drury to build a defense in Laviolette's image. The club is extremely tight on cap space without any obvious potential departures who can make room for much beyond a frugal depth defenseman.

This is where Laviolette must earn his paycheck. If the team can't improve its breakouts and zone entries through additions, then it will be up to the coaching staff to make the necessary adjustments. Trouba had better results in Winnipeg. K'Andre Miller certainly has wheels. Zac Jones, the team's top defense prospect, plays like Fox but suffered an identity crisis under Gallant.

 

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Unless management can pull off something astounding to open up significant cap space, the Rangers will return with close to the same roster, only without the trade-deadline acquisitions. Drury is putting his hopes in Laviolette to prove that the roster he built struggled not because of makeup but rather tactics.

 

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10079041-why-peter-laviolette-is-a-good-fit-as-the-rangers-next-head-coach

[Phil]

Peter Laviolette: 4 thoughts on the NY Rangers' choice for next head coach

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Laviolette's most recent stint in Washington left much to be desired, with the aging Caps ousted in the first round in each of his first two seasons before missing the playoffs altogether in Year 3. In many respects, it was his least successful coaching stop, intensifying questions about whether his methods have grown stale over the years.

 

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There's also curiosity about how he'll handle the Rangers' highly drafted youth. Gallant was reluctant to give first-round forwards Filip Chytil, Kaapo Kakko and Alexis Lafrenière extended opportunities in the top six or on the power play, which toyed with their confidence and may have stunted their development. Can another old-school coach like Laviolette be more nurturing and open-minded? Or will the pressure to win make him shy away from the kids in favor of safer choices?

 

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Lastly, it will be fascinating to see how Laviolette's intensity plays in the locker room. Stars such as Adam Fox, Chris Kreider, Artemi Panarin and Mika Zibanejad aren't big fire-and-brimstone personalities, adding curiosity about how they'll respond to a yeller like Laviolette. Perhaps the team needs a forceful voice to push them harder at times, but my sense is that approach could have an inverse effect if overused.

 

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There are multiple players, headlined by an increasingly frustrated Panarin, who need to be built back up in a positive way. They felt distanced by Gallant's hands-off style, with Laviolette now charged with building relationships, getting through to them and providing motivation without overdoing it.

 

https://www.lohud.com/story/sports/nhl/rangers/2023/06/13/peter-laviolette-4-thoughts-on-the-next-ny-rangers-coach/70317423007/

[siddious]

I’m no laviolette expert but I don’t think bud reputation is that of a Babcock or a sutter when it comes to the yelling.

 

Quite honestly a little fire up Panarin and Mika’s ass might go a long way 

[Br4d]

29 minutes ago, siddious said:

I’m no laviolette expert but I don’t think bud reputation is that of a Babcock or a sutter when it comes to the yelling.

 

Quite honestly a little fire up Panarin and Mika’s ass might go a long way 

 

The only way you put fire under Panarin's ass is to reduce his role/ice time.  PP specialist with 4th line minutes attached.  That might get his attention - albeit obviously you don't put him on a typical 4th line.  One of the interesting ideas if the Rangers find a way to sign Kane would be to pair him with Panarin and Motte and give them maybe 10 minutes ice time a game outside of the power play.

[Phil]

14 minutes ago, Br4d said:

 

The only way you put fire under Panarin's ass is to reduce his role/ice time.  PP specialist with 4th line minutes attached.  That might get his attention - albeit obviously you don't put him on a typical 4th line.  One of the interesting ideas if the Rangers find a way to sign Kane would be to pair him with Panarin and Motte and give them maybe 10 minutes ice time a game outside of the power play.

 

This is a take. I'm all aboard the move on from Panarin train, but this is entirely removed from reality.

 

The key to "fixing" Panarin is obvious to me: address the composition. I don't think Trocheck is the guy for him because Trocheck is a puck carrier (and Panarin wants to be), so give Chytil to Panarin instead and a reliable grinding/complementary forward (Connor Brown).

[Br4d]

2 minutes ago, Phil said:

 

This is a take. I'm all aboard the move on from Panarin train, but this is entirely removed from reality.

 

The key to "fixing" Panarin is obvious to me: address the composition. I don't think Trocheck is the guy for him, because Trocheck is a puck carrier (and Panarin wants to be), so give him Chytil and a reliable grinding/complementary forward (Connor Brown).

 

I'm pretty sure Panarin - Chytil is a no-go.  This is based on stuff we heard last year about Panarin not wanting to play with Chytil.  I could be mis-remembering but I have that combo blocked off in my mind and it's a part of the Panarin doesn't fit anywhere but on the powerplay thing.

[Scott]

3 minutes ago, Phil said:

 

This is a take. I'm all aboard the move on from Panarin train, but this is entirely removed from reality.

[Phil]

3 minutes ago, Br4d said:

 

I'm pretty sure Panarin - Chytil is a no-go.  This is based on stuff we heard last year about Panarin not wanting to play with Chytil.  I could be mis-remembering but I have that combo blocked off in my mind and it's a part of the Panarin doesn't fit anywhere but on the powerplay thing.

 

That was Kakko, not Chytil.

[siddious]

7 minutes ago, Br4d said:

 

I'm pretty sure Panarin - Chytil is a no-go.  This is based on stuff we heard last year about Panarin not wanting to play with Chytil.  I could be mis-remembering but I have that combo blocked off in my mind and it's a part of the Panarin doesn't fit anywhere but on the powerplay thing.

That’s nice $11million player - is there anyone else you’d like us to try you with or is 35 different guys enough?

[Br4d]

10 minutes ago, Phil said:

 

That was Kakko, not Chytil.

 

Didn't they try Panarin - Chytil when Strome was out and it just didn't work?  I must be misremembering.  I know they tried Panarin - Chytil - Kravtsov a couple of times this year and when they ditched that idea they moved Panarin and Chytil away from each other.

Edited June 14, 2023 by Br4d

[Phil]

2 minutes ago, Br4d said:

Didn't they try Panarin - Chytil when Strome was out and it just didn't work?  I must be misremembering.  I know they tried Panarin - Chytil - Kravtsov a couple of times this year and when they ditched that idea they moved Panarin and Chytil away from each other.

 

I'd have to go back and look, but I'm pretty sure it was only a handful of games.

[Br4d]

Just now, Phil said:

 

I'd have to go back and look, but I'm pretty sure it was only a handful of games.

 

It was only like a 3 game trial and I just remember hearing something about Chytil being a guy who skates with his head down and Panarin wanting guys who can simultaneously skate, watch him and chew gum at the same time.

[BrooksBurner]

2 minutes ago, Phil said:

 

This is a take. I'm all aboard the move on from Panarin train, but this is entirely removed from reality.

 

The key to "fixing" Panarin is obvious to me: address the composition. I don't think Trocheck is the guy for him, because Trocheck is a puck carrier (and Panarin wants to be), so give him Chytil and a reliable grinding/complementary forward (Connor Brown).

Chytil is largely a pucker carrier too.

 

One combination I haven’t seen is Panarin-Goodrow, but that probably means Trocheck or Chytil to the wing. Meh.

 

I forgot who mentioned it first, but moving Panarin to the right side might be a fantastic idea and help his approach to how he plays the game at 5v5 in the playoffs. It also gives a bit of renewed optimism that a position change can fix what plagues him when the playoffs start. We know what his habits are on the left side and it doesn’t work. Separate the addict from the source of addiction. 

 

Kreider-Zibanejad-Panarin

Kids

Goodrow-Trocheck-Vesey

Cuylle - Brodzinski - Motte

 

I could get behind something like this given all of the alternatives I’m seeing. There’s also room here to promote Othmann if he’s ripping up the AHL.

[Pete]

1 hour ago, Br4d said:

 

It was only like a 3 game trial

It was more than a few games sprinkled throughout the year, and it was that way to end the playoffs as well.

 

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I just remember hearing something about Chytil being a guy who skates with his head down and Panarin wanting guys who can simultaneously skate, watch him and chew gum at the same time.

Well, considering we are coaching 9 year olds and telling them to skate with their head up, I don't think that's a lot to ask from Chytil.

 

But would just love to know where you heard this "demand" from Panarin.

 

[RJWantsTheCup]

Did he get fired yet?

[The Dude]

7 hours ago, Drew a Penalty said:

 

Good. I was expecting him to be forced onto Laviolette. 

[Phil]

2 minutes ago, The Dude said:

Good. I was expecting him to be forced onto Laviolette. 

 

Man, that avatar is majorly confusing lol.

[The Dude]

7 hours ago, Phil said:

 

It's a riff from their latest episode:

 

 

The whole rizz thing starts the show, if you're interested. You'll laugh... I think.

I haven't a clue what Rizz is. Or a baby Gronk. 

 

Mother fucker! I'm officially old. You dang kids and your Rizz and your Dan Fogelberg. 

[Phil]

2 minutes ago, The Dude said:

I haven't a clue what Rizz is. Or a baby Gronk. 

 

Mother fucker! I'm officially old. You dang kids and your Rizz and your Dan Fogelberg. 

 

I just turned 39, bro, I have no idea what the fuck it is, either. That's the point. It's ridiculous youth shit.

@Rizz GAWD Lav No Cap FrFr def. knows about it all tho.

[Abe Froman]

2 hours ago, RJWantsTheCup said:

Did he get fired yet?

Not yet, give it a season or two. 

[The Dude]

4 hours ago, Br4d said:

 

I'm pretty sure Panarin - Chytil is a no-go.  This is based on stuff we heard last year about Panarin not wanting to play with Chytil.  I could be mis-remembering but I have that combo blocked off in my mind and it's a part of the Panarin doesn't fit anywhere but on the powerplay thing.

Yeah that was Kakko whom Panarin didn't want to play with. 

 

You're really reaching on the Panarin stuff now man. Phil is right on how to get Panarin on track. I don't agree with the player mentioned as the RW, but going down a similar road like that is where it has to go. 

 

I'm still going with Jason Zucker as the target for a RW (he's listed everywhere as LW, but I'm pretty sure he playedca ton of RW for Pitt).  He's the exact type of player they need to look for. 

 

Your thinking that he needs to be disgraced enough to want out of here and demand a trade. It's not going to happen. He's an elite winger and the plan is to get the most out of him. Not to piss him off and degrade him. 

 

This team is significantly worse without Panarin on it. Giving Lafrenière his spot would be devastating and a collosal disaster. It will improve nothing . The theory of evening out the payroll by adding a mediocre RW (with the cap savings), and playing Lafrenière more is something a poorly run Islanders team of the past would do. 

 

I get your gripe abouthis game. I think you need to maybe look back at some old tape. Look at Panarin before he came here and even in his 1st 2 years here. There's more to him than you give him credit for. He's still one of the best in the world,  but you're treating him like he's some middling nobody. 

[Pete]

7 minutes ago, The Dude said:

Your thinking that he needs to be disgraced enough to want out of here and demand a trade. It's not going to happen. He's an elite winger and the plan is to get the most out of him. Not to piss him off and degrade him. 

 

This team is significantly worse without Panarin on it. Giving Lafrenière his spot would be devastating and a collosal disaster. It will improve nothing . The theory of evening out the payroll by adding a mediocre RW (with the cap savings), and playing Lafrenière more is something a poorly run Islanders team of the past would do. 

 

I get your gripe abouthis game. I think you need to maybe look back at some old tape. Look at Panarin before he came here and even in his 1st 2 years here. There's more to him than you give him credit for. He's still one of the best in the world,  but you're treating him like he's some middling nobody. 

Yea, agree. It's getting to a point where the conversation isn't even productive. He only works on the powerplay, move him to the 4th line, change him to RW.

 

It's almost like he's not the best and most skilled offensive player on the team

 

But yea, he had one bad playoff and he's a cancer, a whiner, a pussy (um, he started the Wilson incident by going after him, and he started the NJ fracas in the only physical game), he needs to be "broken" like a horse, he's a 4th liner, blah blah blah.

 

It's just a constant rhythm of trolling at this point.

[BrooksBurner]

29 minutes ago, Phil said:

@Rizz GAWD Lav No Cap FrFr

What in the mother of fuck?

[The Dude]

4 hours ago, Br4d said:

 

It was only like a 3 game trial and I just remember hearing something about Chytil being a guy who skates with his head down and Panarin wanting guys who can simultaneously skate, watch him and chew gum at the same time.

It's been tried on and off. I seem to remember the last gonat it, it was pretty good. Even when Strome got hurt. It looked good. It also looked good when Chytil played the RW with Strome and Panarin. Gallant just had his preference of using players the way he wanted. 

 

Goodrow is pretty much a center.  Gallant didn't use him as one until mid/end of this past season.  They got Copp to strengthen the center position last season. He put him on the wing. Chytil has been forced down the middle and barely tried as a wing. Trocheck and Panairn looked awful all year. Kept going to the well with it. Never trying Chytil there. Never trying Goodrow there. Don't even get me started on how the team was dying for a guy to play RW that could drive to the net, and he sat on Gauthier never giving him an opportunity in the top 6. Gallant was just a stubborn a hole. Guy played 8/9 minutes a night, in 57 games and wound up with 7 less goals than the prized Lafrenière for the season.  I know I'm a nut for Gauthier,  but it's inexcusable that the guy never got more than a couple of shifts in the top 6. 

 

For all the line changing that Gallant did. He was very unimaginative.