CBrowningPI Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 Too bad it wasn't just a Messier little thing but a pretty big loogy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBrowningPI Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 After what Keirik said and Vince, it looks like it was more an unfortunate accident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 Yeah, I would've been stunned if he did it purposely. Miller seems like a good dude and just having a bad couple of weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddious Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 Just now, Sharpshooter said: Yeah, I would've been stunned if he did it purposely. Miller seems like a good dude and just having a bad couple of weeks. Gotta love k’79 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 Is there a non-slo-mo view of the incident? Because I don't see how it wasn't on purpose. His eyes were clearly in that direction. There was clearly a scuffle, so why would he be spitting anyway with a bunch of players right there (3 teammates included)? It sounds like full on damage control to protect Key's image from a dumb choice he made in the moment, but slo-mo doesn't always paint the full picture. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 (edited) Looks like he was trying to sneak a loogy onto someone's jersey, without them noticing. A very childish, punk kid, thing to do. He's totally looking at a Kings player. Maybe he hit Doughty on accident, but he was trying to spit on someone. Kinda like how players will squirt water bottles from the bench as play goes by. Just enough to get on an opponents jersey. Edit: just watched again. Yeah no. Totally spit on him on purpose. Thought he'd get away with it. Edited February 27, 2023 by The Dude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaveByRichter35 Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsm7302 Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 28 minutes ago, The Dude said: Looks like he was trying to sneak a loogy onto someone's jersey, without them noticing. A very childish, punk kid, thing to do. He's totally looking at a Kings player. Maybe he hit Doughty on accident, but he was trying to spit on someone. Kinda like how players will squirt water bottles from the bench as play goes by. Just enough to get on an opponents jersey. Edit: just watched again. Yeah no. Totally spit on him on purpose. Thought he'd get away with it. Seems really out of character. No reason to not believe the kid. He isn't a punk and has no history of such things. I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt on this one and trusting his track record. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbob Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 1 hour ago, BrooksBurner said: Is there a non-slo-mo view of the incident? Because I don't see how it wasn't on purpose. His eyes were clearly in that direction. There was clearly a scuffle, so why would he be spitting anyway with a bunch of players right there (3 teammates included)? It sounds like full on damage control to protect Key's image from a dumb choice he made in the moment, but slo-mo doesn't always paint the full picture. I'm totally with you here. Somehow guys figure out how to spit 100's of times a game, 1000's a times per week across the league and this never happens. Yet he somehow squarely hits the guy. IMO would he do it again no, did he do it purposely this time, I'm going with yes. It was incredibly stupid, just disgraceful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillyb Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 At least it was Doughty. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieNextel305 Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 Yeah bad look for sure. Only adds to what has been a brutal stretch for him. And I’m sure that played a role in this actually happening. Not an excuse, just saying that the guy has to be frustrated with how bad he is playing. Dumb mistake by a young guy. Learn from it and move on. Bad timing for sure, given he knows what the situation was player wise entering today’s game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 8 hours ago, mbob said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fletch Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 So I am going to speculate with no support. My evidence is that this was out of character for Miller and sometimes players trash talk. Maybe Doughty said something that crossed a line between acceptable trash talk and what Miller thought was unacceptable. I won't speculate here but I can think of a few things that would have crossed the line for me when I was playing sports. The problem everyone is having is with what Miller did. If Miller dropped the gloves and fought Doughty then no one would care. I am not defending the spiitting. But I am saying unless Miller says what provoked him (unlikely... He will probably just take the NHL discipline) we don't have the whole story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bieser Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 After Schneider breaks his ankle in Hartford, Miller accidently spits on Kane. A fight ensues and Kane’s hip goes out. Drury says he told Miller if he saw his name in another headline he was releasing him. Miller lands in Philly because no one else wanted him. He pairs with DeAngelo but finally gets his puck back. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsm7302 Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 40 minutes ago, Bieser said: After Schneider breaks his ankle in Hartford, Miller accidently spits on Kane. A fight ensues and Kane’s hip goes out. Drury says he told Miller if he saw his name in another headline he was releasing him. Miller lands in Philly because no one else wanted him. He pairs with DeAngelo but finally gets his puck back. Beat me to the Philly comment. Def their type of behavior.....haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddious Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 My theory: there was a second spitter! 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodrigueGabriel Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 34 minutes ago, siddious said: My theory: there was a second spitter! Was trying to get Zapruder to rhyme with something NYR, but no go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphinity 2.0 Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 Looked accidental, but I can believe it wasn't. Probably suspension worthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karan Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 2 hours ago, Morphinity 2.0 said: Looked accidental, but I can believe it wasn't. Probably suspension worthy. My guess is the league takes this into account and they just give him a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fletch Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 6 minutes ago, Phil said: My guess is the league takes this into account and they just give him a game. Let's pretend roles were reversed and Doughty was the one who was spitting on Miller. Your interpretation might be the same, that Doughty only deserved a game. I don't have a strong opinion whether a fine is sufficient, or whether 1,2, or 3 game suspension is appropriate. But maybe if a Ranger was the recipient of the spit, then some might have a different reaction. I do think it is a slippery slope to read a player's intent into punishment. My sense is the reason why the NHL hauls players in front of a disciplinary board for hearings is A. That procedure is in the collective bargaining agreement. B. It was agreed that players should have an opportunity to plead their case. When the league has held a hearing, they have support for taking into account circumstances, explanations, other extenuating circumstances. All parties probably just want this incident in the rear view window, and that is probably more important than the punishment. If there was an injury that caused Doughty to miss time, than it would be a different story. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keirik Posted February 27, 2023 Author Share Posted February 27, 2023 3 hours ago, siddious said: My theory: there was a second spitter! That is one magic loogie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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