Pete Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 4 minutes ago, siddious said: Insane how the rangers went from a top 5 all time goalie to arguably/possibly an even better one (bold statement I know but Shesty has been incredible so far). One thing this franchise has seemed to always do well. Benoit Allaire. God help them when he retires. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddious Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 5 minutes ago, Pete said: Benoit Allaire. God help them when he retires. Good thing is he’s still semi-young in terms of how old the oldest coaches usually are. Been saying I’d love to see him start training an assistant/replacement at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew a Penalty Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 37 minutes ago, Pete said: Benoit Allaire. God help them when he retires. Jan Gajdosik too. The scout responsible for both Lundqvist and Shesterkin. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 6 minutes ago, Drew a Penalty said: Jan Gajdosik too. The scout responsible for both Lundqvist and Shesterkin. Yea but he's also probably responsible for Olof Lindbom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew a Penalty Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 1 minute ago, Pete said: Yea but he's also probably responsible for Olof Lindbom. Can't win em all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddious Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 Wasn’t bobrov the European scout? He’s with Montreal now if I’m not mistaken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew a Penalty Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, siddious said: Wasn’t bobrov the European scout? He’s with Montreal now if I’m not mistaken. They have a number of European scouts. Bobrov was director of European Scouting from 2016 onward following Anders Hedberg's retirement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Pete said: Benoit Allaire. God help them when he retires. I was curious what Allaire did before the Rangers since I didn’t know. He was a goalie coach for Phoenix. Look at what he did in 99-03 for a 33-36 year old Sean Burke while he was there. He took a career sub-.900 sv% goalie and got him into the .920s and even flirted with .930. Incredible stuff. He didn’t have the same success with 1st round pick Brian Boucher over the same time period though. Maybe Lundqvist can take Allaire’s place later. I know coaching isn’t the same as playing, but he seems like he wants to stay around the game. Edited February 21, 2022 by rmc51 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, rmc51 said: I was curious what Allaire did before the Rangers since I didn’t know. He was a goalie coach for Phoenix. Look at what he did in 99-03 for a 33-36 year old Sean Burke while he was there. He tooked a career sub-.900 sv% goalie and got him into the .920s and even flirted with .930. Incredible stuff. He didn’t have the same success with 1st round pick Brian Boucher over the same time period though. Maybe Lundqvist can take Allaire’s place later. I know coaching isn’t the same as playing, but he seems like he wants to stay around the game. we could only be so lucky. That would be fabulous to have Hank in that role down the road! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 The Rangers should hang a banner for Allaire when it's all said and done too. lol But with Shesty, this has been unbelievable. These are basically video game numbers happening in real life. When it comes to mechanics and positioning and all of that, there are times watching him where I'm more impressed than I was with Lundqvist, and Henrik is a top goalie of all time. This organization has been blessed with very good to great goaltending since the early 80's. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 On 2/21/2022 at 8:00 AM, Pete said: Benoit Allaire. God help them when he retires. A huge part of things, yes. But yet another reason why Georgiev should have been traded long ago. Allaire can train them up another backup, which he’s proven capable of doing numerous times. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 I think it’s time to change the question mark to a period in the thread title 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Heaven Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 52 minutes ago, rmc51 said: I think it’s time to change the question mark to a period in the thread title Markstrom is having a hell of year too. Shesty/Markstrom will probably 1-2, would have to hope their won't be any sort of bias when voting gets done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lefty9 Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 13 hours ago, Kevin said: NHL tonight talking about Tyler Bertuzzi might be available. It would cost a lot since he’s under contract for one more year and a reasonable salary number. 44 points with 23 goals. He is a lefty and I think primarily a left wing but there’s a ton to like about a player like him. On 2/21/2022 at 10:41 AM, rmc51 said: I was curious what Allaire did before the Rangers since I didn’t know. He was a goalie coach for Phoenix. Look at what he did in 99-03 for a 33-36 year old Sean Burke while he was there. He took a career sub-.900 sv% goalie and got him into the .920s and even flirted with .930. Incredible stuff. He didn’t have the same success with 1st round pick Brian Boucher over the same time period though. Maybe Lundqvist can take Allaire’s place later. I know coaching isn’t the same as playing, but he seems like he wants to stay around the game. That job isn't sexy enough for the king Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 (edited) Who even knows if he wants to coach or would even be a good one. Just because he was a great goaltender doesn't mean it would translate into being a good coach. Plus, he does a really good job as a studio analyst, I kind of want him to just stay there. lol Edited February 23, 2022 by Sharpshooter 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 Yeah, come to think of it...I kinda like him in the studio too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valriera Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 It’s probably time to switch the title to *hart front runner. Vezina is afterthought at this point. He’s going to get just as many votes as the mcdavids of the world and could easily steal it. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karan Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 Shesty starting to get Hart recognition amongst the main journos as well? 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 Deservedly so! The guy has been beyond fabulous! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valriera Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 If the season ends today this is not even really close, to be honest. All those guys are playing on great teams, except mcdavid and draisaitl, who have each other, respectively. Shesterkin has single handedly dominated behind what has for at least half the season been a suspect defense. The guy has it all, the stats, the puck handling, and he does it in the clutch. To me he's the runaway favorite today, but a lot can change between now and the end of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieNextel305 Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 At this point, it would take a collapse or an injury for him to not win the Vezina. More and more of the National writers are talking about him being a potential Hart candidate, which virtually seals it. If he’s good enough to potentially be up for a Hart nomination, he is running away with the Vezina. Its going to be March in a few days. The guy has only lost 5 fucking times in regulation. Let that sink in. It’s just absolutely insane how good he’s been. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieNextel305 Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 (edited) Just took a look at some stats. Since losing a game in Toronto in mid-November, he is 17-2-1 in his last 20 starts. In those 20 starts, he’s only allowed 36 goals. And in only 4 of those starts has he allowed over 2 goals. Just absolutely friggin’ absurd. Edited February 26, 2022 by RichieNextel305 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 i think the all time record for this stat is in the low 40s which he’s on pace to blow out of the water 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindG1000 Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 There is a very distinct possibility that Shesterkin is having, or could end up with, the single best individual goalie season (like, not measured just in raw wins) in the expansion era. The Vezina is all but his. The Hart has to be in play. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted March 1, 2022 Author Share Posted March 1, 2022 Quote In the past 50 years, there have been two seasons in which a goaltender logged a starter’s workload (ie. more than half of his team’s games) and finished with an SV% above .935. Dominik Hasek had a .937 SV% for the Buffalo Sabres in 1998-1999 and Tim Thomas posted a .938 SV% for the Boston Bruins in 2010-2011. That’s some rare company for Shesterkin to keep. Hasek finished third in Hart Trophy voting that year, even though his numbers were every bit as strong as in each of the previous two seasons when he did win both the Vezina and Hart Trophy. Hasek was so much better than the competition at his position, played with few stars in Buffalo, and logged a heavy workload, playing in 67 and 72 games, respectively, during his Hart Trophy seasons. Under those circumstances, it was easy to make the case that Hasek’s performance was driving Buffalo to a playoff spot. Shesterkin might be able to make a similar claim this season. While the New York Rangers do have star talent, including defenseman Adam Fox along with wingers Artemi Panarin, Chris Kreider, and center Mika Zibanejad, it is Shesterkin that is driving the Rangers’ success. The Rangers are controlling just 45.1% of 5v5 score-and-venue-adjusted shot attempts, which ranks 31st in the league. The Rangers are the only team currently in a playoff spot outside the top 20 in that measure. Yet they are still comfortably in playoff position, in large part because of great goaltending. Quote Igor Shesterkin has only played 34 out of 53 games this season. If he started every game for the rest of the regular season that would put him at 63 games played. That won’t happen, so if he ends up with around 55 games played, it is even more difficult to find a path where he can win. All the other goaltenders to take home the Hart Trophy in the past 50 years have played at least 64 games. https://www.sportsbookreview.com/picks/nhl/igor-shesterkin-hart-trophy/244101/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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