Keirik Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 (edited) I counted 3 good chances last night...not including the goal. Saves that he'd usually make anyway, and he did....rather easily too. Vezina should be a slam-dunk....I'm seriously looking at the Hart trophy. By the way, that shot, even though it would've been after the clock expired was dead center of that empty net! He's gonna score one day, and I'll probably pee my pants!! ....again! Edited March 7, 2022 by Ozzy 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cr00zng Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 There are lot of chatter in the media about Shesty and trophies. That's pretty much a good thing, the more the merrier, quote: Quote With 26 games remaining, Shesterkin could further supplant himself in hockey history as the third goalie to ever win the Ted Linsday, Vezina, and Hart Memorial trophy in the same season. Only Carey Price (2014-15) and Dominik Hasek (1996-97/1997-98) have accomplished this trifecta. So, sit back and enjoy the ride. We’re witnessing hockey history before our eyes; Igor’s time is now. Source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valriera Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 It's warranted at this point and they're all his to lose really. The guy has put together one of the most dominant seasons in memory. My biggest worry is it's not sustainable into the postseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cr00zng Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 9 minutes ago, Valriera said: It's warranted at this point and they're all his to lose really. The guy has put together one of the most dominant seasons in memory. My biggest worry is it's not sustainable into the postseason. Nah, if it will be sustainable during the next 20+ games, I don't see why it would not be sustainable during the playoff. Yes, the game will get faster, more intense, everyone plays better, etc. Now, can you imagine Shesty playing better? Just semi-kidding... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 I know Price has gotten it in recent memory, but he NHL has seemed stingy in the past on giving the Hart to goaltenders. But, yeah, the media talking it up only helps his case, and he's certainly deserving of it. Watching him play sometimes, even when facing a ton of shots, he almost looks bored at times. It's like he has the league figured out already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Heaven Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 Seems like all the talk now is Matthews for the Hart from the Athletic to canadian reporters on twitter. Seemed like just 3-4 days ago it was all Shesterkin. Wonder if Shesterkin is also going to lose Hart votes b/c of the Russia/Ukraine conflict. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 (edited) Here's a list of the "non-forwards" who've won the Hart in the last 52 years....I'm thinking this is predominantly an award for forwards, for the most part. Igor has been exemplary this season, no doubt. But I'd be ecstatic if he even wins the Vezina! ***Holy shit! I just realized a defenseman has only won it one time since Bobby Orr had a crush on it!! WOW!! Hat's off to you Chris Pronger!!! 2021: Connor McDavid, Edmonton Oilers 2020: Leon Draisaitl, Edmonton Oilers 2019: Nikita Kucherov, Tampa Bay Lightning 2018: Taylor Hall, New Jersey Devils 2017: Connor McDavid, Edmonton Oilers 2016: Patrick Kane, Chicago Blackhawks 2015: Carey Price, Montreal Canadiens 2014: Sidney Crosby, Pittsburgh Penguins 2013: Alex Ovechkin, Washington Capitals 2012: Evgeni Malkin, Pittsburgh Penguins 2011: Corey Perry, Anaheim Ducks 2010: Henrik Sedin, Vancouver Canucks 2009: Alex Ovechkin, Washington Capitals 2008: Alex Ovechkin, Washington Capitals 2007: Sidney Crosby, Pittsburgh Penguins 2006: Joe Thornton, Boston Bruins/San Jose Sharks 2004: Martin St. Louis, Tampa Bay Lightning 2003: Peter Forsberg, Colorado Avalanche 2002: Jose Theodore, Montreal Canadiens 2001: Joe Sakic, Colorado Avalanche 2000: Chris Pronger, St. Louis Blues 1999: Jaromir Jagr, Pittsburgh Penguins 1998: Dominik Hasek, Buffalo Sabres 1997: Dominik Hasek, Buffalo Sabres 1996: Mario Lemieux, Pittsburgh Penguins 1995: Eric Lindros, Philadelphia Flyers 1994: Sergei Fedorov, Detroit Red Wings 1993: Mario Lemieux, Pittsburgh Penguins 1992: Mark Messier, New York Rangers 1991: Brett Hull, St. Louis Blues 1990: Mark Messier, Edmonton Oilers 1989: Wayne Gretzky, Los Angeles Kings 1988: Mario Lemieux, Pittsburgh Penguins 1987: Wayne Gretzky, Edmonton Oilers 1986: Wayne Gretzky, Edmonton Oilers 1985: Wayne Gretzky, Edmonton Oilers 1984: Wayne Gretzky, Edmonton Oilers 1983: Wayne Gretzky, Edmonton Oilers 1982: Wayne Gretzky, Edmonton Oilers 1981: Wayne Gretzky, Edmonton Oilers 1980: Wayne Gretzky, Edmonton Oilers 1979: Bryan Trottier, New York Islanders 1978: Guy Lafleur, Montreal Canadiens 1977: Guy Lafleur, Montreal Canadiens 1976: Bobby Clarke, Philadelphia Flyers 1975: Bobby Clarke, Philadelphia Flyers 1974: Phil Esposito, Boston Bruins 1973: Bobby Clarke, Philadelphia Flyers 1972: Bobby Orr, Boston Bruins 1971: Bobby Orr, Boston Bruins 1970: Bobby Orr, Boston Bruins Edited March 9, 2022 by Ozzy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJWantsTheCup Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 I still think Hank should've won in 2012, I guess 3rd place for a goalie isn't too shabby though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flynn Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 Matthews is going to make Hart a hell of an ask Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cr00zng Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 ESPN+ did an early voting unanimously of the Professional Hockey Writers Association voters. Here is the result for the Hart Trophy: Quote Leader: Auston Matthews, C, Toronto Maple Leafs Finalists: Jonathan Huberdeau, LW, Florida Panthers; Igor Shesterkin, G, New York Rangers The Rangers goalie is having one of the most dominant seasons we've ever seen. He has a .942 save percentage, 1.93 goals-against average and a 28-6-3 record, a.k.a. being responsible for 78% of the Rangers' wins this season through 56 games. The Rangers' underlying numbers for most of the season were a horror show, ranking near the bottom of the league in 5-on-5 metrics like percentage shares of shot attempts and scoring chances. They've nudged up a little bit in recent weeks, but that doesn't do anything to dispel the notion that Shesterkin has carried them to a playoff seed this season -- despite some outstanding seasons from players like goal-scoring forward Chris Kreider and reigning Norris winner Adam Fox. But that impact hasn't translated to Hart Trophy support. Shesterkin appeared atop just two of our voters' ballots for MVP. A few of our respondents noted that his work rate was a consideration. That's quickly become the focal point of the Shesterkin Hart Trophy debate: How many games does a goalie need to play in order to be considered for MVP honors? Two questions will ultimately determine his worthiness for the Hart. First, if the enormity of his statistical achievements trumps those games-played concerns. His .942 save percentage would be the second highest in NHL history for goalies with at least 40 games played, behind Toronto's Hockey Hall of Famer Jacques Plante in 1970-71 (.944). I mean, if you want a narrative, there's your narrative. Results for the Vezina Tropy, GMs voted for this trophy: Quote Leader: Igor Shesterkin, New York Rangers Finalists: Frederik Andersen, Carolina Hurricanes; Jacob Markstrom, Calgary Flames Shesterkin was the only goalie named on our voters' ballots. Will Shesterkin be a unanimous winner of the Vezina Trophy? The goalie that came closest to that feat recently was Carey Price in his Hart Trophy-winning 2014-15 season, when he led the league in save percentage (.933) and goals-against average (1.96). Even then, he earned 27 of 30 possible first-place votes. But Shesterkin is a slam dunk to win the Vezina at this point. One more note on the Rangers' goalie: Occasionally, you can make the argument that a goalie is the product of his team's system. To prove this point, one just has to look at the backup goalie's numbers to see if they're getting similar results. Well, Alexandar Georgiev has a .897 save percentage with a 3.05 goals-against average. So, in summary: Shesterkin for Vezina. Source It's nice to be voted for the Hart Trophy, even as a finalist, but that's unlikely to happen this season for Shesty. On the other hand, Vezina is his, provided he'll continue to play lights out for the next 20 or so games... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieNextel305 Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 16 hours ago, RJWantsTheCup said: I still think Hank should've won in 2012, I guess 3rd place for a goalie isn't too shabby though. I knew he wasn’t going to win. Malkin carried that Penguins team with Crosby missing most of the season. It was Lundqvist at the height of his powers, but it was also Malkin at the height of his. That was the best I’ve seen either of them ever play. I think this year it’s a little more wide open. Shesterkin should cruise to the Vezina at this point. The MVP may be a bit more difficult. But if Edmonton continues to crash and burn, McDavid shouldn’t get it. So then it comes down to Matthews and Igor. And its not as if Matthews is short of talent up in Toronto as far as scoring goes. Whereas down here, Igor faces a ton of chances, and is a large part of why the Rangers are where they are. So, bias aside, he most definitely has a major opportunity here to grab both. He’s having a historic year, and though others stars are having good years, none have been head and shoulders above where you’d expect them to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 The media seems to be pushing for Matthews now to win the Hart, while still standing firm on Shesterkin as the favorite for the Vezina. I think that's how it will probably play out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 Matthews doesn’t carry his team like Shesty does. With anyone other than Shesty, the Rangers are fighting for the 9th place in the conference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 1 hour ago, CCCP said: Matthews doesn’t carry his team like Shesty does. With anyone other than Shesty, the Rangers are fighting for the 9th place in the conference Where the fuck have you been??? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 13 hours ago, Ozzy said: Where the fuck have you been??? rmc51 has been subbing for me 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuc Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fletch Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 Definition of small sample size: 'Igor Shesterkin made 19 saves but allowed at least four goals for the third time in five starts since March 10 after not giving up more than three goals in 18 straight starts from Dec. 31-March 6.' https://www.nhl.com/news/new-york-rangers-new-jersey-devils-game-recap/c-332111982 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 yep, but I'm not sure anybody would of taken this bet either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-ERIK- Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 All players, even goalies have slumps,it was inevitable . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 This is what I was afraid of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddious Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 Better now than in the pkayoffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Heaven Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 Probably no longer pretty much the unanimous vezina favorite. Andersen and Markstrom right there. Andersen more W, and lower GAA, Markstrom lower GAA, more shutouts. Igor, highest SV% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphinity 2.0 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 3 hours ago, Pete said: This is what I was afraid of. Afraid of what? He wouldn't be other-worldly for a 5 game stretch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 (edited) Just now, Morphinity said: Afraid of what? He wouldn't be other-worldly for a 5 game stretch? Well that's the playoffs isn't it? And they simply have no shot at all to win unless he is otherworldly. Edited March 23, 2022 by Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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