Sod16 Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 There is no joy in Mudville, mighty Gorton has struck out. No way No way No way do you give up McD and Miller without getting their top prospect. Gorton was just too committed to trading McD and doing it now (nice letter). It clearly undermined his bargaining position and Stevie knew it. This reminds me of when the Red announced that they would not give up any of their starting 8 players for Seaver and the Mets caved and got "prospects" who turned into little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torontonyr Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 Considering the rumor of amount of pieces required for Mac was around 7, how is this a haul? Because fans / media overrate trades. In Howden you get a known entity that's worth more than a low 1st round pick gamble when you already have 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paddynyc Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 What's the conditions on the 2nd round pick? The 2nd becomes a first if Tampa wins the cup this year or next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYR2711 Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 2nd rounder becomes a first rounder if they win the cup this year or next year as per XM Radio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torontonyr Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 Terrible deal today, great deal tomorrow. As always. Sent from my [device_name] using http://Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk People will feel he same way about this deal as they did about the 2017 draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunny Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 I mean, after this draft we'll likely have the best system in the NHL. This is exactly what was trying to be accomplished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torontonyr Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 Miller for Namestnikov is a wash. Mcdonagh had to bring back more "can't miss" potential. Doesn't seem like they accomplished that. Rangers lost this trade from a value standpoint. We obviously will not know the results of this trade for a while, but today it stings. Howden is that. He's a gold medal team Canada captain and overall C powerhouse. Think Andersson, but slightly better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 Thanks boys. Let's go Tampa!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash or Czech Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 Completely unsurprising that this board is miserable with the deal. Miller and Namestnikov as a wash, the Rangers just got a former 1st round forward, a former 2nd round defenseman, a 1st rounder and a 2nd that could turn into a 1st for McDonagh. You set yourselves up for disappointment expecting what Yzerman said what wasn't available. That's a solid and hefty haul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 I mean, after this draft we'll likely have the best system in the NHL. This is exactly what was trying to be accomplished. 3 1sts in a real deep, strong, draft. I'm good with that too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunny Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 Completely unsurprising that this board is miserable with the deal. Miller and Namestnikov as a wash, the Rangers just got a former 1st round forward, a former 2nd round defenseman, a 1st rounder and a 2nd that could turn into a 1st for McDonagh. You set yourselves up for disappointment expecting what Yzerman said what wasn't available. That's a solid and hefty haul. Exactly. I think the sting comes from losing McD. He was fuckin awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paddynyc Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 Can you imagine how Miller must feel ? I believe he was on the flight to the west coast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chizz Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 Guys, We made out in this deal simply by not having to pay McDonagh 7 mill per. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddious Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 Howden capped off the 2018 World Junior Championship with a gold medal, and finished second in points among Canadians with three goals and four assists. Although Howden entered the tournament earmarked for a depth role on the team, he quickly proved his leadership capabilities and offensive worth, especially by capitalizing regularly on special teams for the eventual gold medalists. Despite suspicion that he could have made the Lightning this fall, having AHL eligibility next year will likely give the team less motivation to rush him into an NHL role in 2018. He'll have to leave no room for doubt from now until next October if he'd like to avoid time in the AHL. https://dobberprospects.com/brett-howden/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puck Head Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 Miller -> Namestnikov McDonagh -> 1st, 2nd, Howden, Hajek. It's a solid deal just devoid of the sexy names Have to agree with this Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 Can you imagine how Miller must feel ? I believe he was on the flight to the west coast. Fuck him. If he played like he wanted to be here game in and game out he would still be here. Coasting through every other game though? GTFO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistercosmic Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 People will feel he same way about this deal as they did about the 2017 draft.Exactly what I was thinking. Sent from my [device_name] using http://Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torontonyr Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 Plus if you *really* look at it, we've traded all that we've traded this year for what *could* be just Ryan McDonagh (and Miller but that's sort of a wash) should either Grabner/Nash come back. We did good boys. It's not sexy or flashy, but isn't that what the Rangers were blamed for in the past? This is solid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunny Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 Fuck him. If he played like he wanted to be here game in and game out he would still be here. Coasting through every other game though? GTFO Amen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torontonyr Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 I haven't even touched Hajek who's basically a 6'2 version of DeAngelo with a slightly higher hockey IQ (but played on worse teams in minors) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winter Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 McKenzie saying Libor Hajek, Brett Howden, Vladislav Namestnikov, 1st, 2nd. we couldn't get one of Foote, Sergachev, Koekoek??? TB doesn't even need Koekoek, Foote will likely deal them in the offseason for better than what they lost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 Can you imagine how Miller must feel ? I believe he was on the flight to the west coast. Elated. He's going to the best team in the East. With his teammate and where multiple of his old teammates play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Respecttheblue Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 I liek Namestnikov and think we needed that scoring touch even if we lose grit. Helps galvanize the talented Russian group - Buchnevich, Shestyorkin, Namestnikov, Rykov, (and Kovalchuck ;) Chytil and Hajek offer more synergy Alex Nunn @aj_ranger 9m9 minutes ago Hajek had an outstanding 2018 World Juniors for Filip Chytil's Czech team. One of the best players there. And the word on Howden is leadership streak. It's going to take time and it's not all gonna work out as planned, but it's a new road ahead that is not a salary cap disaster and there's a lot of talent coming into the system. I'm going to try to have patience, cos I have no other choice, but there's things here I like, especially Namestnikov. Now, can this team manage it all. Or rather ... who will manage it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torontonyr Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 we couldn't get one of Foote, Sergachev, Koekoek??? TB doesn't even need Koekoek, Foote will likely deal them in the offseason for better than what they lost IMO you trade for Foote / Sergachev you lose the 1st/2nd* and maybe downgrade Hajek/Howden to a lesser prospect. Not worth it. I'd rather use the picks and grab not one but two solid prospects who project to be a 1C and a 1-4D in the NHL plus the picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torontonyr Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 I liek Namestnikov and think we needed that scoring touch even if we lose grit. Helps galvanize the talented Russian group - Buchnevich, Shestyorkin, Namestnikov, Rykov, (and Kovalchuck ;) Chytil and Hajek offer more synergy And the word on Howden is leadership streak. It's going to take time and it's not all gonna work out as planned, but it's a new road ahead that is not a salary cap disaster and there's a lot of talent coming into the system. I'm going to try to have patience, cos I have no other choice, but there's things here I like, especially Namestnikov. Aa details filter in Hajek is almost a PPG player in the minors right now and Howden is every bit of the leader that Andersson is and he's another center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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