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And who do they lose to every year? The team that has better depth and is built around some good players but not guys threatening the top of the nhl salary structure. Boston drafts well and is four lines deep. Boston isn’t the model either but they are a far better model than the leafs

Can Toronto win a playoff series before they become the model for discussion

Signing him will cost you assets eventually. Signing him means people need to go right now. The people going now aren’t going to hurt. People act like signing him will be the end of the rangers or the fans from wanting to add more “free” players during the next 3-4 years. It’s laughable. The rangers are still a bad team with panarin. So signing him is just a start but signing him makes it much more difficult to maneuver

There would be no discussion if there was no cap. Sign him. I choose to live in reality.

Seriously odds are? You are advocating paying him $11-12m a year for 7 years. You think he should be better? He better be. The prospects you are hoping g he’s better than cost you league minimum. Is this a joke?

Agreed. And that’s why tying yourself up with a contract that panarin is asking for makes no sense. This team is not ready for it and like you said they don’t even know what they have yet no less start thinking about contending. By the time those things become clear panarin may very well be declining and not living up to his contract. The two best prospects are wings and one is considered a cant miss. So if there is one position that they should be ok with it’s wing. Top it off the easiest position and cheapest position to fill is on the wing. Making it even worse that panarin is asking what he’s asking for. Top echelon centers get less and he’s barely a point per game player who generally speaking isn’t putting those points up with 40-50 goals. He’s completely overrated and instantly an awful contract as soon as his pen hits paper at anything over $10m a aeason

So will the wing position as the rangers have far better prospects there. If your doing backflips then they do have a cap problem. If those prospects don’t work our adding panarin does nothing as this is still a bad team making signing him pointless other than to satisfy your need for satisfaction right now. The center position is a complete unknown outside of one player. Of those unknowns none of them project to be more than a third line center at best case. If chytil is your answer than the pressures you are supposedly alleviating is all being transfered onto him.

Maybe that guy will playa position of need, like center

The rangers are not currently situated to make this move. That is the reality. Signing panarin does not make them a contender. Their window opens ideally 2-3 years from now at which point panarin’s contract can just as easily be a negative as a positive.

They will need every low cost player they have in 3-4 years. Trading them for an O’Reilly or duchene type requires cap space which they will not be in supply of

11.5 or 12.5. Makes little difference both would fuck this team going forward

Yes centers should come cheap either by trade or free agency if the rangers need to acquire them. Good point.

Tell that to Minnesota about parise and suter. Praise by the way is another all ranger fans had to have for “free”. Thank fucking god he wanted to go home. Because you know what could possibly go wrong?

Yes he can come here to be only the third highest paid player in the league and starve making $11.5m. That’s driving a hard bargain slright

I’ll be shocked if he’s a point per game here.

And what if that player doesn’t put a point per game?

Trouba and Subban were both just traded for nothing. More qualityguys are going to be moved this off season under the same circumstances. The cap is pushing teams to trade players they wouldn’t move otherwise. Nobody here knows who the cap casualties will be in the next couple of years. The rangers should not be rushing themselves into these waters. Three years from now the rangers will have their own rfa crisis. Signing panarin for $12m will not cost nothing but money. It will cost the rangers three years from now albeit in draft picks like Toronto with Marleau or with having to lose a player or two they can no longer afford. It is so damn shortsighted to go all in on panarin right now. With Kakko entering the fold with Kravtsov the rangers already have two wings that project into big time players who will need big time money three years from now. Are you really building this around three wings?

Uncle Larry must be reading my posts

St. Louis built a team with players slotted into specific roles that suited them and the team needs. They did it with depth up front and their foundation is defense, players and system. Tarensenko became the complimentary goal scorer that’s always a threat but their offense was made by a team wide hellacious forecheck. Of course goaltending was the missing piece. No need for $11-12m players. They built a team not a marketing strategy

Why shouldn’t he? He’s 18 coming to a new country, speaks little English, and has to adapt to the nhl grind. All the while having impossible expectations being heaped on him like him not being a normal teenager. He’s going to be great but people need to calm down and let the kid breathe. On top of that you have chytil, Andersson, howden, Kravtsov, Hajek, Fox, lemieux and Nieves all still trying to find their roles and figure it out as a nhl player as well. Add in an ancient hank and your expectation is contending?

Exhibit A in why people say you can’t rebuild in nyc. Multiple teenagers on our roster, it is completely unfair to expect them to contend. This is till s bad hockey team. Only difference is that there is much to look forward to and that they will be bad because of youth not lack of talent. The potential for greatness is there, people just need to temper their expectations and let them grow up.

1st roundergoing back to Tampa. Wonder if Namestnikov gets us a first?

For basically nothing. Trouba now Subban traded for very little. Good players are always available because of the cap as long as you have the space to fit them.

Yet I’m one of the few who would rather sign kreider

Zibanejad will need a huge raise as well then too