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The team is already improved with doing nothing else but adding Kakko. How much they improve and how quick this rebuild comes to an end will depend on the development of the kids, not what ufa they sign. The ufas will help speed it up but without the kids it’s all for naught. Which takes me to my opinion on Panarin. Signing him is great but if Anderson, chytil, Howden, their entire defense, etc don’t become what we hope than the rangers are still searching for that contending team with less flexibility I like the idea of a panarin type, I just don’t like the timing. I think it assumes to much about what they have, when they’d be better served waiting and seeing what they need. Top line wings don’t seem to be in short supply for this team. Defense and center are what worry me no less goaltending.

The rangers are improving either way. To think that next season is the finishing touches on a rebuild is ridiculous. They can put a better team out there without panarin or kreider next year. They would also have plenty of cap space to make improvements down the line. There is a middle lane here. Unbeknownst to many here.

Only a problem for next season. This is a rebuild. It is not about next year.

In two years the rangers will start to have cap problems with that roster. It will be almost impossible to keep all the young talent they are assembling

Pavelski seems like the perfect guy to bring in right now. Three year contract won’t hurt you and he’s be s great guy to mentor and produce at a second line center role.

Probably not right now. But with dead weight in Staal, Smith and shattenkirk eating up $18m a year or so there is plenty of cap to pay another top defenseman as soon as they are gone. Two years they are all off the books.

Anything under $12m a year is house money? Any contract that size better be a slam dunk if it isn’t it has potential to be a team killer. Gorton is doing a great job setting this team up for years. With all these moves it does the exact opposite for me. Panarin is not the only option to get where the rangers want to go. Panarin is not a franchise player in my opinion. He’s not Ovechkin, Kane, or jagr. Even those guys were unable to win anything without having a big time center who was close in status. The rangers will still be looking for that guy with little cap space to get him if they sign panarin. Kakko could be, probably wil be a top wing. The rangers should spend that money on a center or another top defenseman. If not now then wait.

Worst case scenario is that he doesn’t sign long term and Gorton trades him at the deadline as a rental for more than he gave up to get him.

Even if Gorton can’t get him signed he’s worth more than what they gave up at the deadline. Great trade.

You still on board with this? Pieterangelo seems to me to be the better player after this postseason.

I have and while the scenery maybe nice the people there are hell bent on telling others how to live. No thanks

Couldn?t pay me enough money to live in the cesspool that is California. Living here is bad enough.

And he’s not a 1d. He’s probably more of a second pair guy.

Agreed. The rangers are set up to enjoy the benefits of having multiple cheap assets contributing at the nhl level for years. I don’t get why they are seemingly linked to every player that flies in the face of that. That is a huge price for trouba and then you have to sign him to 7 years x $7.5. No thanks.

I like plan b.

Agreed. That doesn’t mean the only way of achieving that is by signing a guy to a 7 year contract for $80m. There are other ways of fostering a productive atmosphere that allows for growth. And if that’s your sentiment what happens if panarin signs elsewhere? Do you then just allow your kids to develop in the counterproductive atmosphere you describe? I assume you wouldn’t, so then who are you getting? One player will not foster the atmosphere you wish for. He can be a big part of it but the atmosphere you describe is much bigger than one guy.

Panarin isn’t as good as what people thought of nash before he came here. Besides nash the rangers had some pretty good players along side hank.

Which franchise player are you referring to?

Yup so let’s go sign guys for 7 years at over $10m a year. What could possibly go wrong?

Skinner gets 8 years 72m with full ntc. So what does that mean for panarin?

I think you are right on the money here

$12m is the max he would get and I’m only using that number from past arguments that people posted as the number. I do think he’s around $11m maybe a little more if the rangers get into a bidding war with Florida. $10m in Florida is equal to $11.5m from the rangers. I would think that panarin would want equal money to come here. It just depends if he’s set on a place or he’s set on the most money. If it’s the latter than the rangers will be going north of $11m. If you want to bet I will bet he gets no less than $11m to sign here and only here.

Not at all. I have no idea what he will be. I?m against the risk of it. I?m not worried about the front end of the contract. I don?t like the risk now. We need panarin of today in 5 years from now.

It will be around $12m but no higher. Also depends if it’s in Florida or somewhere with taxes. So I’m not totally sure what your betting. I’m saying a ranger contract is in the $12m neighborhood. Could $11.5 but you get the point. If he goes to Florida it could be less. I think it’s safe to say he won’t get more than macdavid which is $12.5. It will be 7 years though.

That would be the best step forward in my opinion too. History tells me your concerns are warranted and probably likely. If signing panarin is their move then wouldn’t keeping kreider make sense if that’s the case? If the argument is what is kreider 4-6 years from now isn’t it valid to have the same concerns with panarin at more years? The bigger risk is panarin in my opinion only because of sticker price. Realistically in years 5-7 of panarin should be prime years of contention for this team. Him living up to $12m in those years will be vital. How can anybody make a logical argument to pretend to know what he will be in those years? Good bad or whatever.