Sharpshooter Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Pete said: Agreed. Fucking wild. No, it's the Blackhawks. Edited November 29, 2023 by Sharpshooter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sod16 Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 If he axe murdered 10 children, the Players' Association would still challenge the termination of his contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valriera Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 I feel like this is the third or fourth crazy wtf moment of the season and I am dying to know what happened still lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 It involved a team employee, per ESPN. Quote Sources told ESPN's Emily Kaplan that Perry indeed traveled with the team to Columbus last Tuesday, a day before the game, and an incident occurred that day involving a team employee. Davidson said Perry, who did not play in the team's 7-3 loss, was "immediately pulled" from the game once the Blackhawks were notified, and at that point, the club began an investigation. I'm really confused what could be so disturbing, yet apparently not something that breaks the law at the same time, to draw this kind of reaction from those in the know. I imagine abuse of any kind would have brought charges against him to accompany contract termination. What's the worst thing someone can do legally? Show a coworker @Albatrosss's posts about Kreider? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 (edited) Word across the interwebs is that he was completely shitfaced at some point in Columbus and for the game did not even accompany the team to the arena on the bus, he apparently walked there alone. I'm torn on whether the public has the right to know, however what's clear is that teams are stupid for thinking they can hide details around things like this, in this day and age. If you're not going to share the details, you should not acknowledge anything. Put them on unconditional waivers and refuse to answer questions about it. Don't even let the press ask. Edited November 29, 2023 by Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keirik Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 He wasn't even having a bad year 4 goals, 5 assists playing under 15 minutes per night. oh well. Jackasses gonna jackass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sod16 Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 2 hours ago, Pete said: Word across the interwebs is that he was completely shitfaced at some point in Columbus and for the game did not even accompany the team to the arena on the bus, he apparently walked there alone. Must be something more. Alcohol abuse does not result in termination of a player's contract. They go into the abuse program that is part of the CBA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Sod16 said: Must be something more. Alcohol abuse does not result in termination of a player's contract. They go into the abuse program that is part of the CBA. Of course there's something more, could have been something he did while drunk. Also, Player has to agree to go into the program. If they don't, the team can terminate your contract. Edited November 29, 2023 by Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dem Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 On 11/27/2023 at 10:16 PM, SaveByRichter35 said: I would Wonder if she has any doughnuts?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Br4d Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 It's the Blackhawks. With their recent history they'd be nuts to not be transparent on this if there was some kind of sex abuse involved. If it turned out to be something like that and they covered it up (again) you'd probably see the NHL beginning the process of forcing a sale of the team. I think Bedard's Mom is the most likely candidate because that's not sex abuse it's just a violation of the code of conduct, which surely has no sleeping with your teammate's moms written in there somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Br4d Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 Just adding in that if it is true that Bedard's parents are separated this makes more sense. Mom comes to Chicago for the holidays and everybody goes out drinking. Perry ties one on, gets beer goggles and goes for the Brack Friday Bunderoo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karan Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 (edited) A few more clues in this article: Quote Davidson said the NHL and the NHLPA were aware of what's happening before noting it was "a team incident and so it was a team decision." Sources told ESPN's Emily Kaplan that Perry indeed traveled with the team to Columbus last Tuesday, a day before the game, and an incident occurred that day involving a team employee. Davidson said he did speak with the team earlier in the day to inform it of the Blackhawks' decision to place Perry on waivers. He also said the players have no knowledge or any details of the incident. https://www.espn.ph/nhl/story/_/id/38999666/blackhawks-waive-corey-perry-unacceptable-conduct So, incident took place a day before the game and involved a team employee but none of the players knew what happened? Like Pete said, wondering if he showed up shit faced and beat up/threatened a trainer or some other team employee. Edit: Nope can't be that as it would've resulted in assault charges and the article said it wasn't a criminal action. Trying to think of what scenarios would involve a team employee that would be in violation of his SPC and result in contract termination. Edited November 29, 2023 by Karan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 1 hour ago, Br4d said: It's the Blackhawks. With their recent history they'd be nuts to not be transparent on this if there was some kind of sex abuse involved. If it turned out to be something like that and they covered it up (again) you'd probably see the NHL beginning the process of forcing a sale of the team. I think Bedard's Mom is the most likely candidate because that's not sex abuse it's just a violation of the code of conduct, which surely has no sleeping with your teammate's moms written in there somewhere. 59 minutes ago, Br4d said: Just adding in that if it is true that Bedard's parents are separated this makes more sense. Mom comes to Chicago for the holidays and everybody goes out drinking. Perry ties one on, gets beer goggles and goes for the Brack Friday Bunderoo. This type of blatant speculation supported by zero facts is exactly the issue with this incident. Who said his parents were separated? Consensual sex between two adults is in no way grounds for contract termination. The PA would be fighting this tooth and nail. Players have been fucking each other's wives for years. It's bunk. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karan Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 Quote Now what? The Blackhawks claimed in a statement on Tuesday that Perry was “in violation of his Standard Playing Contract and the Blackhawks’ internal policies intended to promote professional and safe work environments.” The big question lingering is whether Perry’s alleged misconduct has risen to the level of a material breach of his contract. For the test of time, NHL player contracts have been ironclad agreements that guarantee employment with only vaguely worded and limited exceptions that grant teams the right to terminate. Given the lack of detail provided by the Blackhawks, it is impossible to know whether Perry’s conduct met that mostly unprecedented level of material breach. Teams have previously sent players home and continued to pay them until the expiration of their contracts, but there does not appear to be one example in recent NHL history of an active player’s contract being terminated for conduct that may be inappropriate but not illegal. According to sources, an alcohol-fueled incident involving Perry was alleged to have occurred during a Blackhawks-organized corporate event that included sponsors and team employees in attendance. It remains unclear what allegedly took place, who witnessed it, and who reported it to the team. However, we can glean from Perry’s placement on waivers and Davidson’s answers to questions, a few pertinent facts: 1) Perry’s alleged misconduct does not involve a criminal investigation; 2) the NHL was made aware of the Blackhawks’ investigation but this was a “team incident and team decision;” 3) Perry has not been suspended by the NHL and if he was claimed on waivers on Wednesday presumably would have been free to continue playing. According to Section 2 (e) of a Standard Players Contract, all NHL players agree “to conduct himself on and off the rink according to the highest standards of honesty, morality, fair play and sportsmanship, and to refrain from conduct detrimental to the best interest of the Club, the League or professional hockey generally.” In the same contract, it says in Section 14 (a) that teams may terminate a deal if a player shall at any time: “fail, refuse, or neglect to obey the Club’s rules governing training and conduct of Players, if such failure, refusal or neglect should constitute a material breach of this SPC.“ Typically, that clause has only been invoked for players who fail to report or fail to keep in good physical condition. It has rarely, if ever, been used to terminate a player who violates team rules for conduct. The most recently published version of the joint NHL-NHLPA Collective Bargaining Agreement also lists a “Form of Standard Club Rules,” which does not specifically mention anything relating to workplace conduct. https://www.dailyfaceoff.com/news/blackhawks-terminate-corey-perrys-contract-but-many-questions-remain-unanswered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 12 minutes ago, Karan said: https://www.dailyfaceoff.com/news/blackhawks-terminate-corey-perrys-contract-but-many-questions-remain-unanswered Just read this as well. Sounds like he was hammered at a meet and greet, possibly showed up hammered and there was an altercation with an employee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsm7302 Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 What a way to end a career..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 Just now, jsm7302 said: What a way to end a career..... Don't kid yourself, somebody will sign him for the league minimum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddious Posted November 29, 2023 Author Share Posted November 29, 2023 He had to of threatened someone’s life or something I’m sure these guys are hammered more often than not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaveByRichter35 Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 14 minutes ago, siddious said: He had to of threatened someone’s life or something I’m sure these guys are hammered more often than not. Probably made some kind of racially charged comment or something along those lines. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddious Posted November 29, 2023 Author Share Posted November 29, 2023 21 minutes ago, SaveByRichter35 said: Probably made some kind of racially charged comment or something along those lines. Or that, yeah. davidson looked so shaken up you’d think Perry murdered someone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 Why make things up? Why can't it just be what it is? That's more than enough. Davidson probably look shook because of the Bedard rumor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddious Posted November 29, 2023 Author Share Posted November 29, 2023 Speculating isn’t making up rumors I have a kid at home let me live vicariously through the internet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 I’m sure the incident wasn’t good. But I also think the Blackhawks are seriously guarding against anything that could be bad PR. Its just a bad situation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karan Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 2 hours ago, siddious said: He had to of threatened someone’s life or something I’m sure these guys are hammered more often than not. Pretty sure that would've resulted in criminal charges, which wasn't the case here, so doubtful. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaveByRichter35 Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 2 hours ago, Karan said: Pretty sure that would've resulted in criminal charges, which wasn't the case here, so doubtful. That's why I am thinking it is probably some kind of verbal name calling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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