Phil Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 3 minutes ago, BrooksBurner said: @Phil you beat me to it He sucks. Total baby brain. Needs to be on paternity leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted November 13, 2023 Author Share Posted November 13, 2023 1 minute ago, Phil said: He sucks. Total baby brain. Needs to be on paternity leave. He's a family man now. I read his goo-goo ga-ga face was top notch at the county club meeting the other day though! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillyb Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 1. Artemi Panarin 2. Chris Kreider 3. Igor Shesterkin 4. Vincent Trocheck 5. Alexis Lafrenière 6. Erik Gustafsson 7. Jacob Trouba 8. Ryan Lindgren 9. Jonathan Quick +1 10. Mika Zibanejad (-1) 11. K'Andre Miller 12. Will Cuylle 13. Kaapo Kakko 14. Barclay Goodrow 15. Jimmy Vesey 16. Blake Wheeler 17. Braden Schneider 18. Nick Bonino 19. Tyler Pitlick 20. Zac Jones 21. Spicy Pork and Broccoli 22. Dylan Garand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted November 19, 2023 Author Share Posted November 19, 2023 1. Artemi Panarin 2. Vincent Trocheck +2 3. Chris Kreider 4. Igor Shesterkin 5. Alexis Lafrenière 6. Erik Gustafsson 7. Jacob Trouba 8. Ryan Lindgren 9. Jonathan Quick 10. Mika Zibanejad 11. K'Andre Miller 12. Will Cuylle 13. Kaapo Kakko 14. Barclay Goodrow 15. Jimmy Vesey 16. Blake Wheeler 17. Braden Schneider 18. Nick Bonino 19. Tyler Pitlick 20. Zac Jones 21. Spicy Pork and Broccoli 22. Dylan Garand 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 1. Artemi Panarin 2. Vincent Trocheck 3. Chris Kreider 4. Igor Shesterkin 5. Alexis Lafrenière 6. Erik Gustafsson 7. Jacob Trouba 8. Ryan Lindgren 9. Jonathan Quick 10. Mika Zibanejad 11. K'Andre Miller 12. Will Cuylle 13. Kaapo Kakko 14. Barclay Goodrow 15. Jimmy Vesey 16. Blake Wheeler 17. Nick Bonino +1 18. Braden Schneider 19. Zac Jones +1 20. Tyler Pitlick 21. Spicy Pork and Broccoli 22. Dylan Garand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillyb Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 1. Artemi Panarin 2. Vincent Trocheck 3. Chris Kreider 4. Igor Shesterkin 5. Alexis Lafrenière 6. Erik Gustafsson 7. Jacob Trouba 8. Ryan Lindgren 9. Jonathan Quick 10. Mika Zibanejad 11. K'Andre Miller 12. Will Cuylle 13. Jimmy Vesey (+2 put some respect on this man’s name) 14. Kaapo Kakko 15. Barclay Goodrow 16. Blake Wheeler 17. Nick Bonino 18. Braden Schneider 19. Zac Jones 20. Tyler Pitlick 21. Spicy Pork and Broccoli 22. Dylan Garand 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fletch Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 1. Artemi Panarin 2. Vincent Trocheck 3. Chris Kreider 4. Igor Shesterkin 5. Alexis Lafrenière 6. Jacob Trouba +1 7. Erik Gustafsson 8. Ryan Lindgren 9. Mika Zibanejad +1 10. Jonathan Quick 11. K'Andre Miller 12. Will Cuylle 13. Jimmy Vesey 14. Kaapo Kakko 15. Barclay Goodrow 16. Blake Wheeler 17. Nick Bonino 18. Braden Schneider 19. Zac Jones 20. Tyler Pitlick 21. Spicy Pork and Broccoli 22. Dylan Garand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillyb Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 +1 for mika?! Explain yourself @fletch lol And actually, considering Quick went 4-0 in Igor’s absense, I’d argue he’s a hell of a lot more important to this roster right now that DJ Straggly Hair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 1. Artemi Panarin 2. Igor Shesterkin +2 3. Vincent Trocheck 4. Chris Kreider 5. Alexis Lafrenière 6. Jacob Trouba 7. Erik Gustafsson 8. Ryan Lindgren 9. Mika Zibanejad 10. Jonathan Quick 11. K'Andre Miller 12. Will Cuylle 13. Jimmy Vesey 14. Kaapo Kakko 15. Barclay Goodrow 16. Blake Wheeler 17. Nick Bonino 18. Braden Schneider 19. Zac Jones 20. Tyler Pitlick 21. Spicy Pork and Broccoli 22. Dylan Garand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Br4d Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 The funny thing is that Adam Fox is clearly a top 3 talent on this team however when he comes back the Rangers will have been on such a heater that it will be hard to put him that high in the rankings. Obviously huge talent but the Rangers clearly can win without him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillyb Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 What a great problem to have. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fletch Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, phillyb said: +1 for mika?! Explain yourself @fletch lol And actually, considering Quick went 4-0 in Igor’s absense, I’d argue he’s a hell of a lot more important to this roster right now that DJ Straggly Hair. If there was a way to move Zib to no. 5, I would. The hate has gone to far on Zib, and no. 9 instead of no. 10 is helping to counteract the hate. Laf, Trouba, and Gustafsson I would all have lower ranked than Zib. Edited November 19, 2023 by fletch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted November 19, 2023 Author Share Posted November 19, 2023 2 hours ago, fletch said: If there was a way to move Zib to no. 5, I would. The hate has gone to far on Zib, and no. 9 instead of no. 10 is helping to counteract the hate. Laf, Trouba, and Gustafsson I would all have lower ranked than Zib. Counter: He’s pacing 55 points while consuming gobs of PP1 time with some high end players. At a minimum he should be piling up a lot of seconday PP assists. He’s getting out scored by Lafreniere and Gus. The rank is what he’s earned this year. It’s not hate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fletch Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 37 minutes ago, BrooksBurner said: Counter: He’s pacing 55 points while consuming gobs of PP1 time with some high end players. At a minimum he should be piling up a lot of seconday PP assists. He’s getting out scored by Lafreniere and Gus. The rank is what he’s earned this year. It’s not hate. You are certainly entitled to have a different opinion. Zib has been more valuable to the Rangers this year. Panarin is white-hot, and anyone on his line is going to put up points. Laf is being graded on a curve, he's better than he has been. Laf is still making a lot of mistakes on the ice, which is easier to overlook when he makes an occasional play that works. I don't want to kill the kid because I want to see him develop, but Zib has been a much better player at both ends of the ice. Ranking goalies vs defensemen vs forwards is in the eye of the beholder - it's apples to oranges. However, IMO, it's crazy to say that a backup goalie that gets an occasional spot start is deserving of a higher ranking that Zib. That is the epitome of hate gone too far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 Fletch, how has Zib been better than Laf offensively? Zib’s line has been primarily used against the opposition’s best lines but offensively they have been non-existent. we have one 1st line and two checking lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaveByRichter35 Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 1. Artemi Panarin 2. Igor Shesterkin 3. Vincent Trocheck 4. Chris Kreider 5. Alexis Lafrenière 6. Jacob Trouba 7. Erik Gustafsson 8. Ryan Lindgren 9. Jonathan Quick 10. Mika Zibanejad -1 11. K'Andre Miller 12. Will Cuylle 13. Jimmy Vesey 14. Barclay Goodrow 15. Kaapo Kakko -1 16. Blake Wheeler 17. Nick Bonino 18. Braden Schneider 19. Zac Jones 20. Tyler Pitlick 21. Spicy Pork and Broccoli 22. Dylan Garand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fletch Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 Let’s focus on Laf’s whole game. He’s on the point on the power play, makes a bad turnover leading to a breakaway, Shesterkin makes the save. That play doesn’t result in a minus or otherwise show up in the statistics, which doesn’t make it any less of a bad play. Again, I’m not going to spend too much time running the kid down when I hope he continues to improve. But there’s good reason why he’s not on the ice in the last 2 minutes with a 1 goal lead. You just trust other lines more, including Zib and Kreider. People can rank Shesterkin one and Quick two if they think they’ve been the 2 best players on the ice, that’s their choice. IMO Zib’s contribution has been seriously undervalued, while Laf has been overrated, that’s all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 1 hour ago, fletch said: Let’s focus on Laf’s whole game. He’s on the point on the power play, makes a bad turnover leading to a breakaway, Shesterkin makes the save. That play doesn’t result in a minus or otherwise show up in the statistics, which doesn’t make it any less of a bad play. Again, I’m not going to spend too much time running the kid down when I hope he continues to improve. But there’s good reason why he’s not on the ice in the last 2 minutes with a 1 goal lead. You just trust other lines more, including Zib and Kreider. People can rank Shesterkin one and Quick two if they think they’ve been the 2 best players on the ice, that’s their choice. IMO Zib’s contribution has been seriously undervalued, while Laf has been overrated, that’s all. You're absolutely right. However this thread is a product of recency bias. The list of players deemed more valuable than the number one center on the team is pretty laughable right now. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 16 hours ago, Pete said: You're absolutely right. However this thread is a product of recency bias. The list of players deemed more valuable than the number one center on the team is pretty laughable right now. It's literally designed to be. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted November 20, 2023 Author Share Posted November 20, 2023 1. Artemi Panarin 2. Igor Shesterkin 3. Vincent Trocheck 4. Chris Kreider 5. Alexis Lafrenière 6. Jacob Trouba 7. Erik Gustafsson 8. Ryan Lindgren 9. Jonathan Quick 10. Mika Zibanejad 11. K'Andre Miller 12. Will Cuylle 13. Jimmy Vesey 14. Barclay Goodrow 15. Kaapo Kakko 16. Blake Wheeler 17. Nick Bonino 18. Braden Schneider 19. Zac Jones 20. Tyler Pitlick Removed Spicy Pork and Garand as they are back in Hartford. I'm not adding Mackey unless he suits up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fletch Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 1. Artemi Panarin 2. Igor Shesterkin 3. Vincent Trocheck 4. Chris Kreider 5. Alexis Lafrenière 6. Jacob Trouba 7. Erik Gustafsson 8. Mika Zibanejad +2 9. Ryan Lindgren 10. Jonathan Quick 11. K'Andre Miller 12. Will Cuylle 13. Jimmy Vesey 14. Barclay Goodrow 15. Kaapo Kakko 16. Blake Wheeler 17. Nick Bonino 18. Braden Schneider 19. Zac Jones 20. Tyler Pitlick Zib looked pretty good against the Flyers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Br4d Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 This whole thing is starting to look pretty dated in the Laviolette Era. I think it probably should be: 1. Team 2. Will Cuylle 3. Jonathan Quick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted November 25, 2023 Author Share Posted November 25, 2023 1. Artemi Panarin 2. Vincent Trocheck +1 3. Igor Shesterkin 4. Chris Kreider 5. Alexis Lafrenière 6. Jacob Trouba 7. Erik Gustafsson 8. Mika Zibanejad 9. Ryan Lindgren 10. Jonathan Quick 11. K'Andre Miller 12. Jimmy Vesey +1 13. Will Cuylle 14. Barclay Goodrow 15. Kaapo Kakko 16. Blake Wheeler 17. Nick Bonino 18. Braden Schneider 19. Zac Jones 20. Tyler Pitlick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Br4d Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 There are a lot of players contributing right now. You have a key player on every line who is making big contributions. Kreider, everybody on line 1a, Bonino, Vesey. It's really unusual to have a major contributor on every line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuc Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 1. Artemi Panarin 2. Vincent Trocheck 3. Chris Kreider +1 4. Igor Shesterkin 5. Alexis Lafrenière 6. Jacob Trouba 7. Erik Gustafsson 8. Mika Zibanejad 9. Ryan Lindgren 10. Jonathan Quick 11. K'Andre Miller 12. Jimmy Vesey 13. Will Cuylle 14. Barclay Goodrow 15. Kaapo Kakko 16. Blake Wheeler 17. Nick Bonino 18. Braden Schneider 19. Zac Jones 20. Tyler Pitlick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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