siddious Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 Atlanta coyotes gonna be nasty in a few years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jsm7302 Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 15 minutes ago, Phil said: That would be a cool play as opposed to Atlanta....again. Houston or Salt Lake City would be a really cool idea. Rebrand or stick with the Yotes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 I'm not completely surprised. RIP cool Kachina look. It just came back too. I do agree about Salt Lake City being a cool spot for a team, whether it's a new franchise or the Coyotes moving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 On 12/3/2021 at 4:18 PM, Long live the King said: Gonna be Utah, Draper specifically. NHL has already been priming the market with preseason games here. Fast growing population. Big tech companies. 600 acres of prime real estate about to open up. Draper mayor already publicly stating desire for a pro sports team. Have the infrastructure for an AHL affiliate already in place. Building another arena will aid in the State's goal of hosting another winter Olympics. Just makes too much sense. This looks like it may come to fruition after all!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long live the King Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 Quote 3. The NBA held a board of governors meeting Tuesday in New York. That night, according to multiple sources, Bettman had dinner with Ryan Smith, owner of the Utah Jazz. This is one to watch. When Fenway bought the Penguins, Smith was rumored as another potential purchaser. Obviously, that didn’t happen, but I was told to keep his name on my radar, because he’s interested in the NHL — and the NHL is very interested in him. https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/32-thoughts-what-we-learned-about-new-nhlpa-executive-director-marty-walsh/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 The Utah Salty Dogs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash or Czech Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 They lost the vote for the new arena. They’re dead in the water, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash or Czech Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 4 hours ago, Phil said: If they think that roster is gonna bring playoffs to that city anytime in the next few years lol. Way better off with an expansion team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted May 17, 2023 Author Share Posted May 17, 2023 Basically, yes. On the latest 32 Thoughts pod, Friedman basically said unless there's a last ditch solution with the Suns (who've rejected it in the past), the next step is relocation. It's a matter of time — whether they move now, or next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew a Penalty Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 The two most recent expansion franchises play in 17.1k (Seattle) and 17.5k (Vegas) — Vivint, where the Jazz play, seats just 14k for hockey. Houston with 17.8k seats and a larger city/population is far more attractive. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sod16 Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 This may happen pretty fast. I'm sure there are escape clauses in the lease with ASU for next year. East-West balance cuts against Atlanta, but arena/ownership will be primary factors. Utah seems cool, but Houston is the better market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted May 17, 2023 Author Share Posted May 17, 2023 Houston, Salt Lake City, and Sacramento were all mentioned by name by Friedman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long live the King Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 5 minutes ago, Drew a Penalty said: The two most recent expansion franchises play in 17.1k (Seattle) and 17.5k (Vegas) — Vivint, where the Jazz play, seats just 14k for hockey. Houston with 17.8k seats and a larger city/population is far more attractive. The Delta Center (they renamed it again) would be temporary. If you've watched any of the preseason games they play there the sight lines suck for hockey as it's been remodeled specifically for basketball. We recently built a new State prison and are in the process of tearing down the old one in Draper opening up 600 acres of prime real estate. The Draper mayor wants a pro sports team. Draper lies right in between Salt Lake and Utah Counites with a population of about 1.8 million and growing in a 30-minute radius. Ryan Smith wants an NHL team. The State wants to host another Winter Olympics in 2030 or 2034. They'll build a new arena just for the hockey team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Heaven Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 Couldn't have seen this coming..... Going to have to try and get to ASU for the Rangers/Yotes game this season if the Yotes will be a lame duck team there this coming year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted May 17, 2023 Author Share Posted May 17, 2023 Friedman also noted on 32 Thoughts if the league might "force a sale." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew a Penalty Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 23 minutes ago, Long live the King said: The Delta Center (they renamed it again) would be temporary. If you've watched any of the preseason games they play there the sight lines suck for hockey as it's been remodeled specifically for basketball. We recently built a new State prison and are in the process of tearing down the old one in Draper opening up 600 acres of prime real estate. The Draper mayor wants a pro sports team. Draper lies right in between Salt Lake and Utah Counites with a population of about 1.8 million and growing in a 30-minute radius. Ryan Smith wants an NHL team. The State wants to host another Winter Olympics in 2030 or 2034. They'll build a new arena just for the hockey team. That might bode well for a potential expansion franchise, but the NHL is in need of a quick solution. Houston metro is 5x the size of Salt Lake City. There's an arena already built that seats nearly 18k. A Texan team might win the Stanley Cup this year. Houston just seems far more appropriate given the circumstances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LindG1000 Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 39 minutes ago, Long live the King said: The Delta Center (they renamed it again) would be temporary. If you've watched any of the preseason games they play there the sight lines suck for hockey as it's been remodeled specifically for basketball. We recently built a new State prison and are in the process of tearing down the old one in Draper opening up 600 acres of prime real estate. The Draper mayor wants a pro sports team. Draper lies right in between Salt Lake and Utah Counites with a population of about 1.8 million and growing in a 30-minute radius. Ryan Smith wants an NHL team. The State wants to host another Winter Olympics in 2030 or 2034. They'll build a new arena just for the hockey team. If they figure out development and mass transit, yeah. Draper is right between Provo and SLC, but it's not exactly a hoppin' town yet. It's definitely aggressively growing, though - and this might be a big boost. I'm 100% deferring to you on all things Utah - you're on the ground - but my read on Delta when I was there a few years ago was that you could put together a heck of a night going to a Jazz game. I'd guess you'd want the same for a Utah Whatevers hockey game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlairBettsBlocksEverything Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 6 minutes ago, Phil said: At this point, why delay the inevitable? Attendance is already a problem. Who the hell is gonna come out to support a team that is 100% not gonna have a future there? Tough to see though. I feel terrible for any diehard yotes fans out there. Its gotta be really hard to see your team pack up and move after being so poorly managed for so long. Gonna miss the hell out of those Kachina jerseys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Long live the King Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 2 hours ago, Drew a Penalty said: That might bode well for a potential expansion franchise, but the NHL is in need of a quick solution. Houston metro is 5x the size of Salt Lake City. There's an arena already built that seats nearly 18k. A Texan team might win the Stanley Cup this year. Houston just seems far more appropriate given the circumstances. Huston's AHL team, with draft picks and future NHLers, only drew about 1,000 more people than Utah's ECHL team does, with a bunch of dudes that will never make it to the show. Houston metro is definitely bigger, but the audience likely isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long live the King Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, LindG1000 said: If they figure out development and mass transit, yeah. Draper is right between Provo and SLC, but it's not exactly a hoppin' town yet. It's definitely aggressively growing, though - and this might be a big boost. I'm 100% deferring to you on all things Utah - you're on the ground - but my read on Delta when I was there a few years ago was that you could put together a heck of a night going to a Jazz game. I'd guess you'd want the same for a Utah Whatevers hockey game. SLC definitely has the nightlife/other activity advantage, but the site in Draper is a 600 acre blank canvas and if they put an arena there they'd likely be able to add better restaurants, bars, etc as a result. It could go either way and could depend on if Smith has to make any timeline deals for a new arena with the league in order to close the deal. Utah loves these master planned walkable communities. There is one in South Jordan where the Angels AAA team is relocating from downtown SLC. On the other hand, the Miller family (former owner of the Jazz) is courting an MLB team with the intention of building a stadium in SLC. Draper is also extremely close to all the big tech company headquarters... Edited May 17, 2023 by Long live the King Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindG1000 Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 10 minutes ago, Long live the King said: SLC definitely has the nightlife/other activity advantage, but the site in Draper is a 600 acre blank canvas and if they put an arena there they'd likely be able to add better restaurants, bars, etc as a result. It could go either way and could depend on if Smith has to make any timeline deals for a new arena with the league in order to close the deal. Utah loves these master planned walkable communities. There is one in South Jordan where the Angels AAA team is relocating from downtown SLC. On the other hand, the Miller family (former owner of the Jazz) is courting an MLB team with the intention of building a stadium in SLC. Draper is also extremely close to all the big tech company headquarters... Utah has something like 7 of the top 10 CX Tech company HQ in the world. They're all in that SLC-->Provo-->Orem run. The sponsorship opportunity is massive. You can totally see Smith being part of the ownership group, getting the arena, buying the sponsorship rights - total community guy. And he runs the most prolific customer experience company in the world - you KNOW that in-game experience is going to be fucking bonkers awesome. Gonna be great to see the SLC whatevers at the Qualtrics Arena Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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