2022-23 Interactive Power Rankings

[Pete]

40 minutes ago, BrooksBurner said:

 

That's not what I meant. You get your moves refreshed every game, but it doesn't mean you have to make the moves in a vacuum based on one game. If that were the case, we might as well not have these rankings and just have everyone pick their stars of the game.  Sorry, but that's never really been how people have generally operated in here. There are lots of moves made that are "he's been really good lately". Those are the smart moves. The bad moves are moving Motte over Miller because he had an anomaly game.

 

 

 

The bad moves are moving your favorite player up after a fourth line player dominated the offense for the bottom six in the same game.

 

You're playing favorites, hard stop. 

[BrooksBurner]

7 minutes ago, Pete said:

The bad moves are moving your favorite player up after a fourth line player dominated the offense for the bottom six in the same game.

 

You're playing favorites, hard stop. 

 

You're so cute when you get mad from being wrong

[Pete]

16 minutes ago, BrooksBurner said:

 

You're so cute when you get mad from being wrong

You're so ugly when you Don't know how wrong you are. That explains your lack of cuteness and your luck that I'm a dumpster diver

[Phil]

17 hours ago, BrooksBurner said:

Where does it say it’s daily? That’s your interpretation. There’s definitely a “what have you done for me lately” factor, but that could be a culmination of the last few games, which is generally how I approach it.

 

It's not literally daily, but it's absolutely a live, per game format. If you don't want to move players based on single game sample sizes, that's totally fine, but the way Josh set this up, it's designed to change on the fly following each game.

[BrooksBurner]

1.  Mika Zibanejad 

2. Igor Shesterkin

3. Vladimir Tarasenko +1

4. Artemi Panarin

5. Vincent Trocheck +1

6. Adam Fox

7. Filip Chytil

8. Chris Kreider

9. Ryan Lindgren

10. Patrick Kane

11. Jacob Trouba

12. Alexis Lafrenière 

13. Kaapo Kakko

14. Tyler Motte 

15. K'Andre Miller

16. Jaroslav Halak

17. Jimmy Vesey

18. Barclay Goodrow

19. Niko Mikkola

20. Braden Schneider

21. Ben Harpur

 

Abiding by the single game sample size format. Good game from Tarasenko against former club. Big goal by Tro late in game.

[fletch]

1.  Mika Zibanejad 

2. Igor Shesterkin

3. Vladimir Tarasenko 

4. Artemi Panarin

5. Vincent Trocheck

6. Adam Fox

7. Chris Kreider +1

8. Filip Chytil

9. Ryan Lindgren

10. Jacob Trouba

11. Patrick Kane -1

12. Alexis Lafrenière 

13. Kaapo Kakko

14. Tyler Motte 

15. K'Andre Miller

16. Jaroslav Halak

17. Jimmy Vesey

18. Barclay Goodrow

19. Niko Mikkola

20. Braden Schneider

21. Ben Harpur

[BrooksBurner]

1.  Mika Zibanejad 

2. Igor Shesterkin

3. Vladimir Tarasenko 

4. Adam Fox +2

5. Artemi Panarin

6. Vincent Trocheck

7. Chris Kreider

8. Filip Chytil

9. Ryan Lindgren

10. Jacob Trouba

11. Patrick Kane

12. Alexis Lafrenière 

13. Kaapo Kakko

14. Tyler Motte 

15. K'Andre Miller

16. Jaroslav Halak

17. Jimmy Vesey

18. Barclay Goodrow

19. Niko Mikkola

20. Braden Schneider

21. Ben Harpur

[RodrigueGabriel]

1.  Mika Zibanejad 

2. Igor Shesterkin

3. Vladimir Tarasenko 

4. Adam Fox 

5. Artemi Panarin

6. Vincent Trocheck

7. Chris Kreider

8. Filip Chytil

9. Ryan Lindgren

10. Jacob Trouba

11. Patrick Kane

12. Alexis Lafrenière 

13. Kaapo Kakko

14. Tyler Motte 

15. K'Andre Miller

16. Jaroslav Halak

17. Barclay Goodrow +1

18. Niko Mikkola +1

19. Jimmy Vesey

20. Braden Schneider

21. Ben Harpur

 

[Morphinity 2.0]

1.  Mika Zibanejad 

2. Igor Shesterkin

3. Vladimir Tarasenko 

4. Adam Fox 

5. Artemi Panarin

6. Chris Kreider +1

7. Vincent Trocheck

8. Filip Chytil

9. Ryan Lindgren

10. Jacob Trouba

11. Patrick Kane

12. Alexis Lafrenière 

13. Kaapo Kakko

14. Tyler Motte 

15. K'Andre Miller

16. Jaroslav Halak

17. Barclay Goodrow

18. Niko Mikkola

19. Jimmy Vesey

20. Braden Schneider

21. Ben Harpur

[Pete]

1. Mika Zibanejad 

2. Igor Shesterkin

3. Vladimir Tarasenko 

4. Adam Fox 

5. Artemi Panarin

6. Chris Kreider

7. Vincent Trocheck

8. Filip Chytil

9. Ryan Lindgren

10. Patrick Kane +1

11. Jacob Trouba

12. Alexis Lafrenière 

13. Kaapo Kakko

14. K'Andre Miller +1

15. Tyler Motte

16. Jaroslav Halak

17. Barclay Goodrow

18. Niko Mikkola

19. Jimmy Vesey

20. Braden Schneider

21. Ben Harpur

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I haven't checked this thread in a minute, but there is no way by any stretch of the imagination even with recency bias that Miller should be this low.

[Morphinity 2.0]

Miller should probably be up neck and neck with Lindgren - though we saw how important Lindgren was when he was out. 

[Br4d]

In principle I agree with the statements above however this team has a *lot* of players who are great at the role they play.  I was looking 1-21 and it's hard to find fault with anybody.

 

I'm not 100% sure that Miller is more valuable than Schneider at this point and that's taking nothing away from Miller.

Edited April 21, 2023 by Br4d

[Zuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuc]

3 minutes ago, Br4d said:

In principle I agree with the statements above however this team has a *lot* of players who are great at the role they play.  I was looking 1-21 and it's hard to find fault with anybody.

 

I'm not 100% sure that Miller is more valuable than Schneider at this point and that's taking nothing away from Miller.

Yup. This team is so stacked at the moment and everyone are playing at or close to their best. Schneider is 2nd last and Vesey is 3rd last. They don't deserve that, but honestly no one does lol.

[Zuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuc]

1. Mika Zibanejad 

2. Igor Shesterkin

3. Vladimir Tarasenko 

4. Adam Fox 

5. Artemi Panarin

6. Chris Kreider

7. Vincent Trocheck

8. Filip Chytil

9. Ryan Lindgren

10. Patrick Kane

11. Jacob Trouba

12. Kaapo Kakko +1

13. Alexis Lafrenière

14. K'Andre Miller

15. Tyler Motte

16. Barclay Goodrow +1

17. Jaroslav Halak

18. Niko Mikkola

19. Jimmy Vesey

20. Braden Schneider

21. Ben Harpur

[BrooksBurner]

Miller has been the worst defenseman we’ve got the first two games. Game 1 was especially brutal out of him.

[Morphinity 2.0]

7 minutes ago, Br4d said:

In principle I agree with the statements above however this team has a *lot* of players who are great at the role they play.  I was looking 1-21 and it's hard to find fault with anybody.

 

I'm not 100% sure that Miller is more valuable than Schneider at this point and that's taking nothing away from Miller.

Only 2 games obviously, but Miller leads the team in TOI by over a minute. It's hard to overstate how valuable it is to have a minute-eating, reasonably solid defenseman with some upside. 

[Morphinity 2.0]

5 minutes ago, Zuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuc said:

Yup. This team is so stacked at the moment and everyone are playing at or close to their best. Schneider is 2nd last and Vesey is 3rd last. They don't deserve that, but honestly no one does lol.

I mean they gotta be ranked somewhere - there are no ties. Everyone is tied for 1st in my heart! LOL (Except for Laf)

[Br4d]

3 minutes ago, BrooksBurner said:

Miller has been the worst defenseman we’ve got the first two games. Game 1 was especially brutal out of him.

 

If Miller's play the first two games is truly our worst then we're winning a cup this year.

[BrooksBurner]

7 minutes ago, Br4d said:

 

If Miller's play the first two games is truly our worst then we're winning a cup this year.

I said the same thing after G1 somewhere around here.

 

He’s not been good recently though, which is what the rankings are about. I don’t know how he gets a +1 after last night, especially over Kreider, Kane, Tarasenko, Goodrow, etc. after the games they had. Smells like favoritism.

Edited April 21, 2023 by BrooksBurner

[BrooksBurner]

1. Mika Zibanejad 

2. Igor Shesterkin

3. Vladimir Tarasenko 

4. Adam Fox 

5. Artemi Panarin

6. Chris Kreider

7. Vincent Trocheck

8. Filip Chytil

9. Ryan Lindgren

10. Patrick Kane

11. Jacob Trouba

12. Kaapo Kakko

13. Alexis Lafrenière

14. K'Andre Miller

15. Barclay Goodrow +1

16. Tyler Motte

17. Niko Mikkola +1

18. Jaroslav Halak

19. Jimmy Vesey

20. Braden Schneider

21. Ben Harpur

[Morphinity 2.0]

3 minutes ago, BrooksBurner said:

I said the same thing after G1 somewhere around here.

 

He’s not been good recently though, which is what the rankings are about. I don’t know how he gets a +1 after last night, especially over Kreider, Kane, Tarasenko, Goodrow, etc. after the games they had. Smells like favoritism.

Because he's too low relative to his importance to the team. Phil even said it 2 months ago. His impact is underrated in these power rankings. 

[Pete]

26 minutes ago, Br4d said:

I'm not 100% sure that Miller is more valuable than Schneider at this point and that's taking nothing away from Miller.

I am LOL. Schneider has 2 RD ahead of him and plays sheltered minutes.

 

Miller plays top minutes, produces, and who else is on LD? Mikkola and Harpur? Not who I'd want moving up in the playoffs.

[Pete]

18 minutes ago, Morphinity 2.0 said:

Only 2 games obviously, but Miller leads the team in TOI by over a minute. It's hard to overstate how valuable it is to have a minute-eating, reasonably solid defenseman with some upside. 

Miller also doesn't have the luxury of playing with a steady partner.

[BrooksBurner]

4 minutes ago, Morphinity 2.0 said:

Because he's too low relative to his importance to the team. Phil even said it 2 months ago. His impact is underrated in these power rankings. 

 

What does that have to do with anything? This is an exercise in recency bias, as I've been told, and Miller has not been good. That's all it comes down to.

[Morphinity 2.0]

1 minute ago, BrooksBurner said:

 

What does that have to do with anything? This is an exercise in recency bias, as I've been told, and Miller has not been good. That's all it comes down to.

Because despite his poor play, he continues to eat more minutes than anyone else on the team - which might also contribute to the opportunity for more mistakes.