BlairBettsBlocksEverything Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 wasnt saying you did dude! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lefty9 Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 Wow, the stock on a number 2 pick in the draft has fallen,if I asked this a few years ago,you guys would chewd me up and spit me out in a second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted February 23, 2022 Author Share Posted February 23, 2022 53 minutes ago, lefty9 said: Wow, the stock on a number 2 pick in the draft has fallen,if I asked this a few years ago,you guys would chewd me up and spit me out in a second. Not just Kakko’s stock. The majority wouldn’t have traded Lafreniere for Brady Tkachuk and #3 or #5 that year either. Rip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 3 hours ago, rmc51 said: Not just Kakko’s stock. The majority wouldn’t have traded Lafreniere for Brady Tkachuk and #3 or #5 that year either. Rip. Proudly not among that group. I said 1 for Tkachuk and 3 or 5, no problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 7 minutes ago, Phil said: Proudly not among that group. I said 1 for Tkachuk and 3 or 5, no problem. So the #1 for two third liners? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted February 24, 2022 Author Share Posted February 24, 2022 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Phil said: Proudly not among that group. I said 1 for Tkachuk and 3 or 5, no problem. Same here. I couldn’t believe how many wouldn’t trade the #1 for literally anything. But I’d be lying if I didn’t say other’s convictions about Laf had my head in the clouds with respect to expectations. Still remember “60 pts easy year one” Edited February 24, 2022 by rmc51 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keirik Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 The Alf conversation about not trading him for anything is just because we never had our own 1st overall.we never had that “our guy” stud since Leetch in terms of expectations so no one wanted to think we wait this long to get that bonafide drafted generational guy so many other teams get every so often. Alf wasn’t projected to be Crosby level but still. He was projected to be an impact player from day one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 2 hours ago, Pete said: So the #1 for two third liners? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 17 minutes ago, Phil said: 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, Pete said: You wrong, though. It's not two third-liners for the first overall. It's two third liners for a worse third liner. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 some real smart discourse goin on over at rangers twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaveByRichter35 Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 Jesus my heart dropped for a moment as I read the title. Felt better when I got to the "What would you do" part and remembered this was a previous thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted March 29, 2022 Author Share Posted March 29, 2022 39 minutes ago, Patrick Bateman said: some real smart discourse goin on over at rangers twitter No shot a high lottery % team like Arizona does that. Poorly constructed hypothetical, unlike my OP here. And no, that’s not my Twitter account Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 What middle tier-contender team has the cap space to do this? Montreal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted March 30, 2022 Author Share Posted March 30, 2022 24 minutes ago, josh said: What middle tier-contender team has the cap space to do this? Montreal? Anaheim and LAK stick out to me as potentials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 More worried about the 4.5- 5.5- threshold. Someone gonna ruin our cap somehow with one of these offers. That or steal an underdeveloped 2AO pick and not even HAVE to surrender a 1st rounder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 19 minutes ago, rmc51 said: Anaheim and LAK stick out to me as potentials. Both have too many young guys to resign, soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsm7302 Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 Id let him go and sign the guys who have played since the deadline who have made this team look like they could bring home that coveted trophy. Good luck Kakko. And I truly mean that. Im asking someone to please offer sheet kakko so we can keep this lineup. He isnt going to be generational folks; he may put it together at some point but our window is the next 5 years and we have a group that looks great together! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, jsm7302 said: Id let him go and sign the guys who have played since the deadline who have made this team look like they could bring home that coveted trophy. Good luck Kakko. And I truly mean that. Im asking someone to please offer sheet kakko so we can keep this lineup. He isnt going to be generational folks; he may put it together at some point but our window is the next 5 years and we have a group that looks great together! Nah. Not walking away from a 2OA who's development has been so awkwardly laid out. Really don't want him offersheeted, despite how big of a let down his progression has been. But if someone does, I can't say I blame them for not matching. Rather see Kakko get another opportunity here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaveByRichter35 Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 8 minutes ago, jsm7302 said: Id let him go and sign the guys who have played since the deadline who have made this team look like they could bring home that coveted trophy. Good luck Kakko. And I truly mean that. Im asking someone to please offer sheet kakko so we can keep this lineup. He isnt going to be generational folks; he may put it together at some point but our window is the next 5 years and we have a group that looks great together! He was never supposed to be generational. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsm7302 Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 3 minutes ago, SaveByRichter35 said: He was never supposed to be generational. I'm aware of what he was billed as and he hasn't shown what was promised. Im saying he hasn't progressed where im spending a significant part of this cap for a hope and a dream. No thanks. Want to win now with the team that has a solid core and promise. Let's face it though, no team is giving him 5+ mil because he was a #2 OA. Cmon, let's be real. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaveByRichter35 Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 29 minutes ago, jsm7302 said: I'm aware of what he was billed as and he hasn't shown what was promised. Im saying he hasn't progressed where im spending a significant part of this cap for a hope and a dream. No thanks. Want to win now with the team that has a solid core and promise. Let's face it though, no team is giving him 5+ mil because he was a #2 OA. Cmon, let's be real. I agree I don't think he deserves a big bump simply because he was drafted 2OA. I think that should push him down since he hasn't lived up to the draft spot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 1 hour ago, SaveByRichter35 said: He was never supposed to be generational. No, he was supposed to be dominant, and he isn't that, either. But there's absolutely a monetary breaking point on this. I wouldn't even be comfortable paying him anything north of $3 million right now, let alone $4–5 million. I'd probably keep him, then trade him after a year, because that's the other thing to remember here: players who sign offer sheets are telling you they want out. I'd grant that request at the first opportunity and take what comes of it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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