WWJD Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 It actually makes a good deal of sense as the core of a deal. Vancouver has terrible RW depth and decent center depth. They're in need of a retool. They have two monster contracts coming us (Petterson, Hughes) with not much cap space. We would take a depth player with Horvat (not that the salary is great but we could absolutely take Beagle or something for a year). Horvat is a strong fit for what we need. Buchnevich is a strong fit for what they need. They're of near equal age and similarly productive enough. I don't think this is fantasyland, but I don't think it's a 1-for-1 thing either. Buch/Georgiev/then prospect on the farm. That should be plenty enough to get it done. Also helps us with not having to expose an extra guy in the expansion draft. Sounds like a better alternative to Eichel really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 It actually makes a good deal of sense as the core of a deal. Vancouver has terrible RW depth and decent center depth. They're in need of a retool. They have two monster contracts coming us (Petterson, Hughes) with not much cap space. We would take a depth player with Horvat (not that the salary is great but we could absolutely take Beagle or something for a year). Horvat is a strong fit for what we need. Buchnevich is a strong fit for what they need. They're of near equal age and similarly productive enough. I don't think this is fantasyland, but I don't think it's a 1-for-1 thing either. Bo Horvat is one of the most liked players in Vancouver, he's their captain, and is a main part of their core along with Hughes and Peterson. Very easy for you to say that it makes sense for them having no real idea what is going on with that team or city. Two jack ass bloggers brought this deal up with the side thought that they would be pissed about it. That thought just tells you how clueless those two idiots are. There is no other proof of this rumor anywhere else to be found. At least tell me there is proof of the Canucks having Horvat on the table somewhere other than these two ass hats. Because for the life of me this trade does not make any sense. You do not trade your captain in his young 20's who is a two way center with 60-70 pt potential for Pavel Buchnevich who before this year was an enigma. The entire country of Canada has a Shane Doan sized hard on for Bo Horvat. If they are trading him, they are getting a lot more than Buch for him. Sorry but time to wake up from the dream Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 Bo Horvat is one of the most liked players in Vancouver, he's their captain, and is a main part of their core along with Hughes and Peterson. Very easy for you to say that it makes sense for them having no real idea what is going on with that team or city. Two jack ass bloggers brought this deal up with the side thought that they would be pissed about it. That thought just tells you how clueless those two idiots are. There is no other proof of this rumor anywhere else to be found. At least tell me there is proof of the Canucks having Horvat on the table somewhere other than these two ass hats. Because for the life of me this trade does not make any sense. You do not trade your captain in his young 20's who is a two way center with 60-70 pt potential for Pavel Buchnevich who before this year was an enigma. The entire country of Canada has a Shane Doan sized hard on for Bo Horvat. If they are trading him, they are getting a lot more than Buch for him. Sorry but time to wake up from the dreamI wanna punch myself in the face for agreeing with you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 I wanna punch myself in the face for agreeing with you. Nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 I wanna punch myself in the face for agreeing with you. You’re on dangerous grounds. Soon you’’ll agree with him on Trump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddious Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 I wanna punch myself in the face for agreeing with you. Remind me to rep you later because I LOLd pretty hard Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 You’re on dangerous grounds. Soon you’’ll agree with him on Trump Now your banned 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindG1000 Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 Bo Horvat is one of the most liked players in Vancouver, he's their captain, and is a main part of their core along with Hughes and Peterson. Very easy for you to say that it makes sense for them having no real idea what is going on with that team or city. Two jack ass bloggers brought this deal up with the side thought that they would be pissed about it. That thought just tells you how clueless those two idiots are. There is no other proof of this rumor anywhere else to be found. At least tell me there is proof of the Canucks having Horvat on the table somewhere other than these two ass hats. Because for the life of me this trade does not make any sense. You do not trade your captain in his young 20's who is a two way center with 60-70 pt potential for Pavel Buchnevich who before this year was an enigma. The entire country of Canada has a Shane Doan sized hard on for Bo Horvat. If they are trading him, they are getting a lot more than Buch for him. Sorry but time to wake up from the dream Re: bold - also easy for you to make a post without being a dick. So easy, just cut that line, because the elephant in the room with Vancouver is that nobody has any fucking idea what's going on with that team (including the beat writers and according to half their fans, the GM). Yes, Vancouver has no right wing depth (Boeser - who also seems to be in perpetual rumor - then......Motte? Vesey? Hoglander, Miller, Pearson are all LW) and has a ton of center depth. They do in fact have two giant ass question mark contracts coming up and literally no room to maneuver outside of them. I agree it doesn't make sense for them to trade a young captain two-way center, but Vancouver has made a habit of doing things that don't make sense. No reason to believe they'd break that chain. Anyway, I think the Van beat writers shot this down earlier today, so it's moot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 I wanna punch myself in the face for agreeing with you. Nice. You’re on dangerous grounds. Soon you’’ll agree with him on Trump Remind me to rep you later because I LOLd pretty hard Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I'm gonna have to start doing "Ozzy - Top 10 posts of the GDT's" in some of these threads. This is absolutely hilarious to come back to on a Monday morning!!! :rofl: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 Re: bold - also easy for you to make a post without being a dick. So easy, just cut that line, because the elephant in the room with Vancouver is that nobody has any fucking idea what's going on with that team (including the beat writers and according to half their fans, the GM). Yes, Vancouver has no right wing depth (Boeser - who also seems to be in perpetual rumor - then......Motte? Vesey? Hoglander, Miller, Pearson are all LW) and has a ton of center depth. They do in fact have two giant ass question mark contracts coming up and literally no room to maneuver outside of them. I agree it doesn't make sense for them to trade a young captain two-way center, but Vancouver has made a habit of doing things that don't make sense. No reason to believe they'd break that chain. Anyway, I think the Van beat writers shot this down earlier today, so it's moot. It's not being a dick pointing out the obvious. I was not trying to be a dick just pointing out that there is no truth to the rumor other than two asshat bloggers. It's not being a dick to point out that you don't have insight to what Vancouver is doing and why they are intending to trade Bo Horvat. There is no proof of those thoughts coming out of Vancouver and there is no reports they are looking to trade Horvat to fill their need on RW. On the same token you could have "advised" my post without calling me a dick. You could have just left that part out and said there is no need for the bolded. But you didn't. You called me a dick (an actual offense to someone) in response to my (implied by you) offense. What's funny is that you report the beat writers shot down this bogus rumor today further making this entire rumor yes that of "fantasyland". Are they "dicks" too for reporting the obvious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 I know he's been talked about in passing before this off season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 21, 2021 Author Share Posted July 21, 2021 I would 100% pay something silly stupid for Tkachuk. Kakko, Kreider and 15. Do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 I would 100% pay something silly stupid for Tkachuk. Kakko, Kreider and 15. Do it. Samesies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 I would 100% pay something silly stupid for Tkachuk. Kakko, Kreider and 15. Do it.That's a garbage package. Astronomical is Kakko, Lundkvist, Kreider #15 and a 2022 2nd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long live the King Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 That's a garbage package. Astronomical is Kakko, Lundkvist, Kreider #15 and a 2022 2nd.Replace Lundkvist with Jones/Robertson and I'm still in. Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 Replace Lundkvist with Jones/Robertson and I'm still in. Sent from my SM-G960U using TapatalkBut Calgary isn't. And I doubt they are even with my first package LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long live the King Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 But Calgary isn't. And I doubt they are even with my first package LOL.Add condition that the Flames get the 32nd pick after every cup we win while Tkachuk is a Ranger. Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 Add condition that the Flames get the 32nd pick after every cup we win while Tkachuk is a Ranger. Sent from my SM-G960U using TapatalkI don't have the same fascination with the Tkachuks as the rest of you. I'm not sold. Apparently I'm not the only one, as I think I heard on a podcast that the Flames had to sit him down after he shot that puck at someone. Apparently his antics are getting pretty old? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long live the King Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 Ok, include Georgiev in the deal so they don't get in a fight. Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 Tkachuk probably costs you Zibanejad, and only if they can extend him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 21, 2021 Author Share Posted July 21, 2021 That's a garbage package. Astronomical is Kakko, Lundkvist, Kreider #15 and a 2022 2nd. Still yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 Buch/Strome Kakko/Kravtsov 1st Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 You guys are crazy!! LOL I'm staying the course! :thumbs: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThirtyONE Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 Yeah, I'll pass at that price, my God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash or Czech Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 We've moved on from the lunatic idea of a 1st round pick for Nic Deslauriers, right? I'm out of the loop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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