gdt: (#67) Wolf Pack v. Winipeg Jets // Stop Winning, FFS

[Drew a Penalty]

 

REGULAR SEASON GAME #67 ? 03/06/2018

 

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Location: Madison Square Garden ? New York, NY

Time: 7:00 PM

TV: MSG+ 2, TSN3

Radio: 98.7 FM, 107.1 FM, 710 AM, Sirius XM

 

 

USEFUL LINKS:

 

Coverage: @rangersreport ? @stevezipay ? @J_Tasch ? @NYP_Brooksie ? @HartnettHockey

 

Team Official: @NYRangers ? NYR on Instagram

 

Official Team Websites: rangers.nhl.com ? jets.nhl.com

 

GameCenter - Highlights, Stats, and Recap

 

 

 

 

 

 

Standings:

 

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[td]RECORD:[/td]

[td]30-30-6 (64 Points)[/td]

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[tr]

[td]POSITION:[/td]

[td]8th ? Metropolitan[/td]

[/tr]

[tr]

[td]ROW:[/td]

[td]27[/td]

[/tr]

[tr]

[td]HOME:[/td]

[td]18-12-4[/td]

[/tr]

[tr]

[td]AWAY:[/td]

[td]12-18-2[/td]

[/tr]

[tr]

[td]S/O:[/td]

[td]3-4[/td]

[/tr]

[tr]

[td]LAST 10:[/td]

[td]3-6-1[/td]

[/tr]

[tr]

[td]STREAK:[/td]

[td]W3[/td]

[/tr]

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Team Statistics:

 

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[tr]

[td]DIFF:[/td]

[td]-20 (22nd)[/td]

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[tr]

[td]GF/GP:[/td]

[td]2.82 (19th)[/td]

[/tr]

[tr]

[td]GA/GP:[/td]

[td]3.11 (T-24th)[/td]

[/tr]

[tr]

[td]PP%:[/td]

[td]20.7% (12th)[/td]

[/tr]

[tr]

[td]PK%:[/td]

[td]82.8% (6th)[/td]

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[tr]

[td]FOW%[/td]

[td]50.4 (13th)[/td]

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Team Leaders:

 

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[tr]

[td]Goals:[/td]

[td]Mika Zibanejad (19)[/td]

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[tr]

[td]Assists:[/td]

[td]Mats Zuccarello (34)[/td]

[/tr]

[tr]

[td]Points:[/td]

[td]Mats Zuccarello (44)[/td]

[/tr]

[tr]

[td]+/-:[/td]

[td]Marc Staal (+7)[/td]

[/tr]

[tr]

[td]PIM:[/td]

[td]Kevin Shattenkirk (44)[/td]

[/tr]

[tr]

[td]TOI/G (D):[/td]

[td]Neal Pionk (21:22)[/td]

[/tr]

[tr]

[td]TOI/G (F):[/td]

[td]Mats Zuccarello (18:47)[/td]

[/tr]

[/table]

 

 

Starting Lineup:^

 

Chris Kreider / Mika Zibanejad / Pavel Buchnevich

Jimmy Vesey / Vladislav Namestnikov / Mats Zuccarello A

Ryan Spooner / Kevin Hayes / Jesper Fast A

Paul Carey / David Desharnais / Cody McLeod

 

Marc Staal A / Neal Pionk

John Gilmour / Brady Skjei

Ryan O?Gara / Tony DeAngelo

 

^ Subject to change

 

 

Starting Goaltender:

 

Henrik Lundqvist

 

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[td]GS[/td]

[td]53[/td]

[/tr]

[tr]

[td]REC[/td]

[td]25-21-5[/td]

[/tr]

[tr]

[td]SV%[/td]

[td].916[/td]

[/tr]

[tr]

[td]GAA[/td]

[td]2.89[/td]

[/tr]

[tr]

[td]SO[/td]

[td]2[/td]

[/tr]

[/table]

 

 

Healthy Scratches:

 

Peter Holland

 

 

Injuries, Suspensions, Misc:

 

D Kevin Shattenkirk [iR] ? Torn meniscus; Out indefinitely

D Steven Kampfer [iR] ? Fractured hand; Out 4-6 weeks

G Ondrej Pavelec [iR] ? Knee; Out 2-3 weeks

 

 

 

 

 

 

Standings:

 

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[tr]

[td]RECORD:[/td]

[td]39-17-9 (87 points)[/td]

[/tr]

[tr]

[td]POSITION:[/td]

[td]2nd - Central[/td]

[/tr]

[tr]

[td]ROW:[/td]

[td]37[/td]

[/tr]

[tr]

[td]HOME:[/td]

[td]24-7-2[/td]

[/tr]

[tr]

[td]AWAY:[/td]

[td]15-10-7[/td]

[/tr]

[tr]

[td]S/O:[/td]

[td]2-2[/td]

[/tr]

[tr]

[td]LAST 10:[/td]

[td]7-3-0[/td]

[/tr]

[tr]

[td]STREAK:[/td]

[td]W2[/td]

[/tr]

[/table]

 

 

Team Statistics:

 

[table=width: 300, class: grid, align: center]

[tr]

[td]DIFF:[/td]

[td]+45 (5th)[/td]

[/tr]

[tr]

[td]GF/GP:[/td]

[td]3.35 (3rd)[/td]

[/tr]

[tr]

[td]GA/GP:[/td]

[td]2.66 (5th)[/td]

[/tr]

[tr]

[td]PP%:[/td]

[td]24.6 (2nd)[/td]

[/tr]

[tr]

[td]PK%:[/td]

[td]82.3 (T-10th)[/td]

[/tr]

[tr]

[td]FOW%[/td]

[td]52.6 (5th)[/td]

[/tr]

[/table]

 

 

Team Leaders:

 

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[tr]

[td]Goals:[/td]

[td]Patrik Laine (35)[/td]

[/tr]

[tr]

[td]Assists:[/td]

[td]Blake Wheeler (56)[/td]

[/tr]

[tr]

[td]Points:[/td]

[td]Blake Wheeler (74)[/td]

[/tr]

[tr]

[td]+/-:[/td]

[td]Andrew Copp (+14)[/td]

[/tr]

[tr]

[td]PIM:[/td]

[td]Dustin Byfuglien (90)[/td]

[/tr]

[tr]

[td]TOI/G (D):[/td]

[td]Dustin Byfuglien (23:53)[/td]

[/tr]

[tr]

[td]TOI/G (F):[/td]

[td]Mark Scheifele (21:00)[/td]

[/tr]

[/table]

 

 

Starting Lineup:^

 

Kyle Connor / Mark Scheifele / Blake Wheeler

Mathieu Perreault / Bryan Little / Jack Roslovic

Nikolaj Ehlers / Paul Stastny / Patrik Laine

Matt Hendricks / Andrew Copp / Joel Armia

 

Dmitri Kulikov / Tyler Myers

Joshua Morrisey / Dustin Byfuglien

Joe Morrow / Ben Chiarot

 

^ Subject to change

 

 

Starting Goaltender:

 

Connor Hellebuyck

 

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[tr]

[td]GS[/td]

[td]52[/td]

[/tr]

[tr]

[td]REC[/td]

[td]34-10-8[/td]

[/tr]

[tr]

[td]SV%[/td]

[td].923[/td]

[/tr]

[tr]

[td]GAA[/td]

[td]2.40[/td]

[/tr]

[tr]

[td]SO[/td]

[td]6[/td]

[/tr]

[/table]

 

 

Healthy Scratches:

 

N/A

 

 

Injuries, Suspensions, Misc:

 

D Tobias Enstrom [DTD] ? Lower body

D Jacob Trouba [DTD] ? Ankle

G Steve Mason [DTD] ? Concussion

 

F Adam Lowry [iR] ? Upper body

F Brandon Tanev [iR] ? Upper body

 

 

 

 

QUOTE(S) TO NOTE:

 

 

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?This is a group that wants to do it and wants to prove people wrong. Just because they?ve I guess cleaned out our roster doesn?t mean we?re gonna stop playing.?

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- Mika Zibanejad on the Rangers win streak

 

 

[Phil]

Get REKT, Rangers. It's for your own good!

 

 

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[Future]

lmao

[Giacomin]

Jets are my pick to win the Cup, love the way this team is built and plays. Yet, anyone who has watched the Preds lately might find it hard to imagine a team winning 4 in 7 against them.

 

Regardless, this should be another free flying fun one, except this opponent can finish. Laine, Schiefele, Wheeler and Ehlers are elite forwards and Connor is another dynamic kid making serious strides. When Trouba comes back, their blueline rivals anyone.

 

This tanking thing is not natural for me once the game starts. I find myself rooting for both teams and good exciting hockey. Everything is a win, sure alleviates the pressure. We score, they score, it doesn't matter, it is all good. Think this winning streak ends tonight, though.

 

Saw a few comments here and elsewhere inferring a disappointment the players are not tanking. I assume those are just 'off-the-cuff' comments and that everyone realizes that any player worth their salt does not give the draft (tanking) a moment's thought. Hope that didn't need to be said.

[Giacomin]

And let's not get crazy about the playoff race yet. Florida is real good and now one of the hottest teams in the league and we are not catching them. You might make a case to catch the Canes and Columbus, but that is still not enough.

 

BTW, a hot Florida could have a chance to upset the Division winner. And the Bruins have won 3 straight, but a getting decimated with injuries. The McAvoy one looks serious and is a killer. Patrice has an issue, so does Rask. Meanwhile they are crediting Nash for rejuvenating Krejci's game. Tampa is pleased will Miller's fit too. Good, cause I LOVE NAMESTNIKOV!!

[josh]

wolfpack shit is old and lame.

 

And it will create problems trying to look for past GDTs in the future.

[Phil]

wolfpack shit is old and lame.

 

And it will create problems trying to look for past GDTs in the future.

 

No, it won't. You can search by prefix.

[josh]

The following words are either very common, too long, or too short and were not included in your search:

gdt

[Phil]

The following words are either very common, too long, or too short and were not included in your search:

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[Kevin]

Jets are my pick to win the Cup, love the way this team is built and plays. Yet, anyone who has watched the Preds lately might find it hard to imagine a team winning 4 in 7 against them.

 

Regardless, this should be another free flying fun one, except this opponent can finish. Laine, Schiefele, Wheeler and Ehlers are elite forwards and Connor is another dynamic kid making serious strides. When Trouba comes back, their blueline rivals anyone.

 

This tanking thing is not natural for me once the game starts. I find myself rooting for both teams and good exciting hockey. Everything is a win, sure alleviates the pressure. We score, they score, it doesn't matter, it is all good. Think this winning streak ends tonight, though.

 

Saw a few comments here and elsewhere inferring a disappointment the players are not tanking. I assume those are just 'off-the-cuff' comments and that everyone realizes that any player worth their salt does not give the draft (tanking) a moment's thought. Hope that didn't need to be said.

 

These comments are made by fans that know that losing now is in the best interest of the team. Any comments made about players tanking is just fooling around. I think everyone knows that every player is a professional and will continue to give their best efforts day in and day out.

[torontonyr]

Real talk:

 

How is the AHL so far behind in highlights/social media/live streams?

 

I get it's not the majors, but c'mon man, let me see the highlights of each game. Let me be a fan if I want to be a fan. It's all so obtuse.

[phillyb]

I haven't put their app back on my phone since getting a new one, but last year, it was just an awful app. It was difficult to navigate and barely gave you any info about the games.

Their site isn't terrible, but it certainly isn't the best.

[Gravesy]

Whilst their performance last time around was good, that 4th line makes my eyes bleed.

Interesting to see what we can do against a proper team.

[torontonyr]

I haven't put their app back on my phone since getting a new one, but last year, it was just an awful app. It was difficult to navigate and barely gave you any info about the games.

Their site isn't terrible, but it certainly isn't the best.

 

Agreed. Many highlights missing, expensive video subscription, often late info / write ups. Even if the official app/website are behind, you'd think the social team could post video of goals regularly and not when they feel like it / or a day later.

[Drew a Penalty]

Agreed. Many highlights missing, expensive video subscription, often late info / write ups. Even if the official app/website are behind, you'd think the social team could post video of goals regularly and not when they feel like it / or a day later.

 

Because most of the arenas only have a hanful of cameras set up if at all. So the cost to equip every arena equally isn't worth the low viewership via subscription.

[torontonyr]

Because most of the arenas only have a hanful of cameras set up if at all. So the cost to equip every arena equally isn't worth the low viewership via subscription.

 

Really? I thought most of the games had cameras and they offered an online subscription for watching it. http://ahl.neulion.com/ahl/. "every game. every team. LIVE" - also $200 USD which makes it comparable to the NHL Gamecenter package.

 

Put that at $100 and we'll talk.

 

Also, everyone has phones. Rangers.com does a decent job of capturing goals during traverse city/pre-season scrims. I think they could grow the game doing at least minimal effort.

[Drew a Penalty]

Really? I thought most of the games had cameras and they offered an online subscription for watching it. http://ahl.neulion.com/ahl/. "every game. every team. LIVE" - also $200 USD which makes it comparable to the NHL Gamecenter package.

 

Put that at $100 and we'll talk.

 

Also, everyone has phones. Rangers.com does a decent job of capturing goals during traverse city/pre-season scrims. I think they could grow the game doing at least minimal effort.

 

All have cameras. It's likely the man-power cost associated. You can have one guy moving around a camera, but then you also need producers and so forth to up the level of quality. The AHL is content with the baseline. Minimal effort is a lot more effort than it's actually worth.

[torontonyr]

All have cameras. It's likely the man-power cost associated. You can have one guy moving around a camera, but then you also need producers and so forth to up the level of quality. The AHL is content with the baseline. Minimal effort is a lot more effort than it's actually worth.

 

I hate arguing online, but this is why I mentioned it "Because most of the arenas only have a hanful of cameras set up if at all"

 

You can get that footage and place it on YouTube, the team's website, or on social to help grow interest in prospects (and in return the Rangers/team) and to help grow the interest in teams in their local market. I don't know how you can argue that a minimal effort isn't worth it in an age when access to information is abundant and people take vested interest in all levels of sport.

 

The games are already being broadcasted. Lower the price to incentivize. Make the video content accessible during/post game as it is with every other league. Post highlights. I don't really see where your position stands other than to say "it's too hard".

 

But anyhow, I digress. I'd just like to see more of of the pack and to be more of a fan, but they make it challenging is all.

 

LGR

[BlairBettsBlocksEverything]

Get REKT, Rangers. It's for your own good!

 

 

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Stop actin like we're not making the playoffs

[torontonyr]

Stop actin like we're not making the playoffs

 

:cheers:

[Drew a Penalty]

I hate arguing online, but this is why I mentioned it "Because most of the arenas only have a hanful of cameras set up if at all"

 

You can get that footage and place it on YouTube, the team's website, or on social to help grow interest in prospects (and in return the Rangers/team) and to help grow the interest in teams in their local market. I don't know how you can argue that a minimal effort isn't worth it in an age when access to information is abundant and people take vested interest in all levels of sport.

 

The games are already being broadcasted. Lower the price to incentivize. Make the video content accessible during/post game as it is with every other league. Post highlights. I don't really see where your position stands other than to say "it's too hard".

 

But anyhow, I digress. I'd just like to see more of of the pack and to be more of a fan, but they make it challenging is all.

 

LGR

 

My mistake. I also forgot the letter "d" in handful so I'm not exactly on my game.

 

It's an issue of business though. You can't make a market where there isn't one to be found. Does lowering the cost seem like it'll drive demand? Sure, but this isn't really a case where the uptick in demand really outweighs your loss in price. It's an issue of elasticity. You can't lower your price and raise your cost if you don't already have a margin to work with. The AHL doesn't.

 

You have to pay multiple people to film the games, run switches, produce highlight packages and logos, etc. It's ultimately not worth it. The Pack run a Youtube page and often run interviews with their players. The truth is that so few people care. It's not like no one is watching because of the quality. That's maybe stopping a small percentage. It's because it's AHL hockey and that only really attracts hardcore fans.

[torontonyr]

My mistake. I also forgot the letter "d" in handful so I'm not exactly on my game.

 

It's an issue of business though. You can't make a market where there isn't one to be found. Does lowering the cost seem like it'll drive demand? Sure, but this isn't really a case where the uptick in demand really outweighs your loss in price. It's an issue of elasticity. You can't lower your price and raise your cost if you don't already have a margin to work with. The AHL doesn't.

 

You have to pay multiple people to film the games, run switches, produce highlight packages and logos, etc. It's ultimately not worth it. The Pack run a Youtube page and often run interviews with their players. The truth is that so few people care. It's not like no one is watching because of the quality. That's maybe stopping a small percentage. It's because it's AHL hockey and that only really attracts hardcore fans.

 

- Wasn't about the D (ay) as it was about the cameras not being set up.

- I disagree with the market not being there. So do they since they have the service set up. I just argue that it's a discount service and if you're going to try to charge a premium at least entice new customers using those premium sub camera production with clips on social/highlights. Simple.

- I work in marketing so I'm aware how it works and that it's a niche audience, but niche doesn't mean non-profitable nor does it mean a futile investment on the part of of the NHL/AHL to shine a light on future players and to showcase why the AHL (in smaller markets across the USA) is an exciting product to watch.

[Patrick Bateman]

Really want Hank to get to 30 wins

[Drew a Penalty]

- Wasn't about the D (ay) as it was about the cameras not being set up.

- I disagree with the market not being there. So do they since they have the service set up. I just argue that it's a discount service and if you're going to try to charge a premium at least entice new customers using those premium sub camera production with clips on social/highlights. Simple.

- I work in marketing so I'm aware how it works and that it's a niche audience, but niche doesn't mean non-profitable nor does it mean a futile investment on the part of of the NHL/AHL to shine a light on future players and to showcase why the AHL (in smaller markets across the USA) is an exciting product to watch.

 

Except you don't target a niche market with lower prices. That's the exact opposite of what you'd do. Once you lower prices, assumedly in the long-term, moving those prices back up becomes largely an impossibility which only stands to hurt them more. They can't maintain that lower price. Why enter a price war with yourself?

 

They don't disagree that much considering they're offering a bare minimum. The fact that you're complaining about it and that it's been that way for years signals an indifference to opinion. Once again. Does the cost improve result in an uptick in subscribership? I'm inclined to say no.

 

If minor league sports were more marketable don't you think other leagues would be trying to take advantage of that more? They're not. Fans mostly want either the top product or an exciting one. The only real exception is the NCAA which is a behemoth in its own right.

[torontonyr]

Except you don't target a niche market with lower prices. That's the exact opposite of what you'd do. Once you lower prices, assumedly in the long-term, moving those prices back up becomes largely an impossibility which only stands to hurt them more. They can't maintain that lower price. Why enter a price war with yourself?

 

They don't disagree that much considering they're offering a bare minimum. The fact that you're complaining about it and that it's been that way for years signals an indifference to opinion. Once again. Does the cost improve result in an uptick in subscribership? I'm inclined to say no.

 

If minor league sports were more marketable don't you think other leagues would be trying to take advantage of that more? They're not. Fans mostly want either the top product or an exciting one. The only real exception is the NCAA which is a behemoth in its own right.

 

Agree to disagree.