jjweimar Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 Not accounting for Nylander, komarov, JVR, polak, Carrick, bozak Sent from my [device_name] using http://Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 http://www.spotrac.com/nhl/cap/2018/ They have a ton of players due big upgrades in the next few seasons. They have Bozak and JVR coming off the books, both unlikely to re-sign. Komorov coming off, and he's a question mark. THey have RFAs Carrick, Soshnikov and Nylander. Following season they have Mathews, Marner, Kapanen, 3 additional forwards, 3 additional defenseman and a backup goaltender. A few of those guys arent getting low-ball bridge deals. They are going to be in a pickle next July. And theyll still go after Tavares. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 Nobody said they have to resign everybody. Fact is they have 25 million in cap space this offseason. They easily let a couple walk...no problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane Falco Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 Nobody said they have to resign everybody. Fact is they have 25 million in cap space this offseason. They easily let a couple walk...no problem. Yes, but when you do this you have one guy taking up a huge chunk of cap leaving a smaller amount left to fill up how many spots? You have to take all of that into consideration. Plus there's also the reality that this team is rebuilding, which I don't think he would want a part of IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 Yes, but when you do this you have one guy taking up a huge chunk of cap leaving a smaller amount left to fill up how many spots? You have to take all of that into consideration. Plus there's also the reality that this team is rebuilding, which I don't think he would want a part of IMO The Leafs are past rebuilding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane Falco Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 The Leafs are past rebuilding. Ah, you were referring to the leafs. My mistake! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 I think Boychuk is actually pretty good. A very good compliment to a top pairing D man. Leddy as well. They will make about 500k to a mill more than they should, but its hardly a problem. DeHaan aint bad either. If these are the players you feel would be hard to move, I disagree big time. Cizikas isnt a good but its hardly crippling the organization if they give him what you suggest. Ladds deal is a killer. Eberle is not producing to that contract, and they have about a mill too much tied up in their goalie situation as it is. Im not sure whats so hard about dumping a contract or two. If teams are willing to take on David Clarkson and Nathan Horton contracts, I dont see how nobody would take Leddy, Cizikis, or Clutterbuck. Guys like Lee, they absolutely need to resign. Not sure about Eberle. They constantly have a rookie rotating into the lineup every season. So that can help them make decisions a little easier on some of these guys. I think you're really underestimating how difficult it is to dump a bad contract. To do that, you're also going to have to give up a pick/prospect. The Horton-for-Clarkson trade was a once in a generation cap circumvention move that we're not likely to see again. But besides all that, the point is that this team is terrible right now, and with all the cap committed already, they can't do a whole lot to address their biggest problems. Signing JT long-term does nothing to remedy that, but trading him could go a long way. If your plan is to just dump some of the bad contracts and buy UFAs to fix all the roster problems, then they're going to have the same issues moving forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 I think you're really underestimating how difficult it is to dump a bad contract. To do that, you're also going to have to give up a pick/prospect. The Horton-for-Clarkson trade was a once in a generation cap circumvention move that we're not likely to see again. But besides all that, the point is that this team is terrible right now, and with all the cap committed already, they can't do a whole lot to address their biggest problems. Signing JT long-term does nothing to remedy that, but trading him could go a long way. If your plan is to just dump some of the bad contracts and buy UFAs to fix all the roster problems, then they're going to have the same issues moving forward. I was blasted for saying that signing Miller to a long term deal early on would be a mistak. The attitude here by some, was that any contract is moveable, especially if they are under 30. Im not seeing how a Ciziikis or Clutterbuck would be some immovable contract. Ladd? Yes. Thats a bad one. I think Leddy or Boychuk are EASILY moved if they wanted or had to, and they don't. Im hoping the Isles dont bring back JT, I really think the Rsngers have a shot at him and could right this ship while not going gull blast in FA to fill the roster. You dump McD for one of the Toronto kids. You dump Zuc for cost controlled D man. Same with Miller and the roster has potential to look like this Kreider- JT- Nylander Firesale/ FA- Chytil- Zib Kid- Andersson- Fast Nieves and whooooooo cares Skjei- Shattenkirk Firesale- Kid/Smith Staal- Firesale/ Kid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 I think you're really underestimating how difficult it is to dump a bad contract. To do that, you're also going to have to give up a pick/prospect. The Horton-for-Clarkson trade was a once in a generation cap circumvention move that we're not likely to see again. But besides all that, the point is that this team is terrible right now, and with all the cap committed already, they can't do a whole lot to address their biggest problems. Signing JT long-term does nothing to remedy that, but trading him could go a long way. If your plan is to just dump some of the bad contracts and buy UFAs to fix all the roster problems, then they're going to have the same issues moving forward. Who said dump a bad contract? Look at the players the Penguins and Hawks have unloaded since their first cups. Not to keep piling on, but when we look at good teams, they've never been afraid to move key players they knew they either couldn't afford or couldn't have the sort of long-term impact they needed. The Blackhawks traded Byfuglien, Ladd, Saad, Panarin (to get Saad back), Shaw, Teravainen, Hjalmarsson, Sharp, Leddy, Bolland, Frolik, Brouwer, Versteeg. The Penguins traded James Neal, ManBearPig, Jordan Staal, Goligoski, Whitney, Armstrong. Not that we need to be so active, but the point stands. ^ From some McDonagh thread, maybe McD & Zucc as trade bait Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryBiv Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 Nobody said they have to resign everybody. Fact is they have 25 million in cap space this offseason. They easily let a couple walk...no problem. This is what you can do, when you have a legit farm with good looking young players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProxyCentauri Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 I presented exactly this proposition to a Norwegian friend who is an Isles-fan.He is also an ex hockey player with a much deeper understanding of the NHL than myself. His answer was somewhat surprising but undeniably of at least statistical significance: ' How often during the last 30 years have you seen Isles and Rangers trade players notwithstanding AHL and lower-leagues? They happen extremely rare on NHL-level' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sod16 Posted February 21, 2018 Author Share Posted February 21, 2018 Larry Brooks periodically mentions that the Rangers and Islanders have never exchanged NHL players. I believe the only transfer of an NHL player might have been the Rangers sale of Ron Stewart to the Islanders early in the latter's first season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 Larry Brooks periodically mentions that the Rangers and Islanders have never exchanged NHL players. I believe the only transfer of an NHL player might have been the Rangers sale of Ron Stewart to the Islanders early in the latter's first season. They got a dman a few years ago. Name is escaping me. Tall guy, played in Hartford. I think those were the only 2 (I looked it up a few months ago) https://www.nhl.com/rangers/news/rangers-get-blueliner-niemi-from-isles/c-530129 New York Rangers President and General Manager Glen Sather announced today that the club has acquired defenseman Jyri Niemi from the New York Islanders in exchange for a sixth-round pick in the 2010 NHL Entry Draft. The Rangers and Islanders last completed a trade on Nov. 14, 1972, when the Rangers sent right wing Ron Stewart to the Islanders in exchange for cash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 Taking Pilon off waivers years ago was kind of like a trade. Man were they desperate back then. That fuck wore a Ranger jersey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 Pilon. sf aahlj;dksfydsg ;fudisoyafuilhjakedsf;jzakcdx gfljnkdml,sfmv vv.,<.> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lefty9 Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 Josh Bailey going to sign five million a year for five years ,and he happens to be JT best friend and linemate ,you could write it down JT staying with the icelanders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giacomin Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 Was wondering what they'd do about Bailey. It was going to be tough to lose him, especially given the JT implications. Feels like the Isles will pay JT and keep him. Will be difficult for the franchise if they lose him now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sod16 Posted February 23, 2018 Author Share Posted February 23, 2018 That fuck wore a Ranger jersey. Don't recall seeing a lot of customized Rangers Pilon jerseys selling at Cosby's. JT is wasting his career. It will be the fourth year of his contract before he sees the new arena. Until then, it's ride the bus between the Nassau Mausoleum crowds of 10,000 at Barclays. They've got some good players, but they are at best a middling team overall. Go ahead and sign JT. You may have a 20 year career with this team and never so much as play in the conference finals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 Mike Commodore Verified account @commie22 17m17 minutes ago More John Tavares and Vladimir Tarasenko....#PackYourShit and switch jerseys. #Insiderrr time will tell but he's gotten some of the bigger deals right over the last couple of years. I don't see this one happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 The whole pack your shit thing is a joke. Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 The whole pack your shit thing is a joke. Sent from my iPhone using Blueshirts Brotherhood mobile app powered by Tapatalk So is #InOne. His hatred for Babcock is comical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 Pilon. sf aahlj;dksfydsg ;fudisoyafuilhjakedsf;jzakcdx gfljnkdml,sfmv vv.,<.> Pilon is a good dude. Used to send drinks to each other?s tables at Lace in Nyack. That was the beginning of the end for Fleury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 Josh Bailey going to sign five million a year for five years ,and he happens to be JT best friend and linemate ,you could write it down JT staying with the icelanders I?ll bet you 900 rep points JT leaves LI. I?ll bet you another 300 that he becomes a Ranger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 Don't recall seeing a lot of customized Rangers Pilon jerseys selling at Cosby's. JT is wasting his career. It will be the fourth year of his contract before he sees the new arena. Until then, it's ride the bus between the Nassau Mausoleum crowds of 10,000 at Barclays. They've got some good players, but they are at best a middling team overall. Go ahead and sign JT. You may have a 20 year career with this team and never so much as play in the conference finals. The split home games is a joke. They draw 13K no matter what, let them do it at the refurbished shithole. Tarasenko ins't enough. Nylander and Marner and more...may be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lefty9 Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 I?ll bet you 900 rep points JT leaves LI. I?ll bet you another 300 that he becomes a Ranger. bet you a round of golf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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