Vodka Drunkenski Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Paul Heyman is a mic genius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torontonyr Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Last night was not only one of the best RAWs in quite some time, it was one of the best moments in Women's Wrestling, period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodka Drunkenski Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 Didn't catch the whole show, what happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torontonyr Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 This is basically the climax of the event. The WWE divas, namely the Bellas came out and sort of broke the 4th wall - saying the division is a joke and there's no competition. It's not stated, but it's implied that it's stale and that the Bellas basically dominate the division, which they do. Then the new breed of talented, and trained NXT divas came up - suddenly making the Divas division extremely competitive, maybe more so than any other time in history. The only equivalent I can think of with such an influx of talent was during the invasion angle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 20, 2015 Author Share Posted July 20, 2015 Yeah, TNA already revolutionized women's wrestling years ago. It's less of a factor now that so many had moved on, but if you're talking about setting the bar for women's wrestling high, or raising it, they did it back from '07 to '10 — their roster in that time frame puts anything WWE has done to shame. Alissa Flash, Angelina Love, Amazing Kong, ODB, Velvet Sky, Taylor Wilde, Tara (Victoria), Sarita, Hamada, Christy Hemme, Winter (Katie Lee), Becky Bayless, etc. all called it home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torontonyr Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 Yeah, TNA already revolutionized women's wrestling years ago. It's less of a factor now that so many had moved on, but if you're talking about setting the bar for women's wrestling high, or raising it, they did it back from '07 to '10 — their roster in that time frame puts anything WWE has done to shame. Alissa Flash, Angelina Love, Amazing Kong, ODB, Velvet Sky, Taylor Wilde, Tara (Victoria), Sarita, Hamada, Christy Hemme, Winter (Katie Lee), Becky Bayless, etc. all called it home. Ehhhhhhh (literally the sound I made reading your post). I'd argue that none of those women are quite as good or as over as the NXT divas, with the exception of a few. Big names though, for certain. Also, this is just the tip of the ice berg, and we could be seeing more call-ups on a regular basis. Moreover, I'd also say that this happening to a *stale* WWE Women's division has a bigger Impact! than any women's movement has in TNA. Don't get me wrong, I've enjoyed and applauded the way TNA attempts* to book the women's division. I love(d) watching Kim, Kong, ODB and the like run house. But, I'm also speaking more to a 1 night infusion of talent, rather than piece by piece. It'd be like 6 members of ROH getting signed to WWE at once, rather than them picking their spots and bringing them in (or up in this instance) one by one. It instantly makes the division WAY more exciting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 20, 2015 Author Share Posted July 20, 2015 "Over" is a relative term. It's easy to say that anyone not wrestling in a WWE ring isn't "as over" as someone who is based on the size of the crowd. But I understand better what you are saying now. You're talking about the manner in which they all debuted at once, rather than the actual name value of the girls coming in (which I would argue is simply not at the same level as what TNA had in that run then). The NXT girls may even have a higher ceiling, but right now, today, don't have the same accolades the Knockouts did then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torontonyr Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 "Over" is a relative term. It's easy to say that anyone not wrestling in a WWE ring isn't "as over" as someone who is based on the size of the crowd. But I understand better what you are saying now. You're talking about the manner in which they all debuted at once, rather than the actual name value of the girls coming in (which I would argue is simply not at the same level as what TNA had in that run then). The NXT girls may even have a higher ceiling, but right now, today, don't have the same accolades the Knockouts did then. Yeah, it's more that they all came up at once - changing the division overnight. As for the ceilings, I get that too - but I'd say they're better wrestlers than the lot TNA had, for the most part. Much better in the ring, even at this point. But you're right, they don't have the cache, yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodka Drunkenski Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 The undertaker is old Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torontonyr Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 #Fact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 21, 2015 Author Share Posted July 21, 2015 He's gotta be in his fifties now, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodka Drunkenski Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 I believe so and it shows, WWE going with the wrong angle here. Time to move onto newer talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 21, 2015 Author Share Posted July 21, 2015 I wasn't even aware Undertaker was back. I figured he was retired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 That was a pretty cool staged rage that Brock and Taker had. Love the diving over other wrestlers to get at each other. But yeah. Taker is old as fuck. Why waste time on this angle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 24, 2015 Author Share Posted July 24, 2015 :tweet: @JoshCohan: WWE confirms to @ABC News it has "terminated its contract with Terry Bollea (aka Hulk Hogan)." -- Apparently Hogan went on some kind of racist tirade that was captured on audio. http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/601405-more-details-on-hulk-hogan-and-wwe-potentially-parting-ways-hogan-rumored-to-have-gone-on-a-racial-tirade-more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodka Drunkenski Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 What an idiot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karan Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 How fucking stupid is that? You'd think this guy would've learnt by now after all the issues he's had in the recent past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted August 13, 2015 Author Share Posted August 13, 2015 If you haven't seen Vampiro v. Pentagon Jr. from Lucha Underground's Ultima Lucha finale... you are missing the fuck out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 Get the fuck out of here. I wikied Vampiro a week ago. I forget why I was looking for him (may have seen him on a tv in the back ground of a movie). Its strange that you put this up haha. Weird.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Dudley boys back to WWE. Maybe things will pick up again in a boring shit storm of storylines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodka Drunkenski Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Doubt it, wrestling as a whole has sucked for years now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Oh, I totally agree. Its been so bad. You would think by now the "evil bad bosses who dont care what the fans want" angle would be done snd overwith.. Nope. Who rights this shit? Its unbearable, yet I seem to be interested lately. I gotta get a life. FUCK. Im watching wrestling when it SUCKS. I am drawn to Lesnar though. Maybe thats it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThirtyONE Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Oh, I totally agree. Its been so bad. You would think by now the "evil bad bosses who dont care what the fans want" angle would be done snd overwith.. Nope. Who rights this shit? Its unbearable, yet I seem to be interested lately. I gotta get a life. FUCK. Im watching wrestling when it SUCKS. I am drawn to Lesnar though. Maybe thats it. I've been watching it too. I don't hate it. Some of the storylines suck but all-in-all it's pretty funny. It's hard to replicate the Attitude Era though. They probably never will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torontonyr Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Only TNA could do the invasion angle worse than WWE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted August 27, 2015 Author Share Posted August 27, 2015 Yeah, this whole thing has been brutal, and reading ahead to the spoilers, it only gets worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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