Dem Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 Hartford Center Matt Rempe 6' 8", 240lb needs to be called up to the big team. Hard Stop! Scouting report: https://bluelinestation.com/2022/10/01/matt-rempe/ , We need a player who can act as a deterrent to teams who take liberties on the NYR. I think big rough Canadian Matt Rempe is that guy. He is a guided missile, throwing the body like crazy and has some speed to do it. When necessary he drops the gloves and does quite well in that regard. He can easily slot in for Brodz or move Goodrow up to the third line and slot Rempe as the pivot on the 4th line (I hate to break that line up though). He seems to have some skill as a player albeit at lower levels of hockey: Regular Season Playoffs Season Team Lge GP G A Pts PIM +/- GP G 2018-19 Spruce Grove Saints AJHL 43 4 8 12 32 5 0 2019-20 Seattle Thunderbirds WHL 47 12 19 31 53 -1 2020-21 Spruce Grove Saints AJHL 2 0 0 0 2 2020-21 Seattle Thunderbirds WHL 8 1 4 5 12 0 2021-22 Seattle Thunderbirds WHL 56 17 6 23 93 -7 24 8 2022-23 Hartford Wolf Pack AHL 53 6 4 10 87 0 -- -- 2023-24 Hartford Wolf Pack AHL 25 4 3 7 51 -3 There has been a pattern recently of other teams taking liberties with out skilled team. This is during the regular season. I am very concerned players will continue to be battered and injured if something is not done in this regard. I am absolutely positive we will physically get the shit kicked out of us in the playoffs without someone to make the other teams think twice about that cheap shot or plastering one of our many skill players. Thoughts??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 Love the player. Probably their future fourth-line center, but the idea of deterrence is objectively nonsense. It doesn't exist. It's a comforting lie we've told ourselves for decades because it maybe kinda sorta used to be true, but it most definitely hasn't been in at least a decade or longer now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valriera Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 Deterrence would be the department of player safety actually, you know, helping player safety Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 4 minutes ago, Valriera said: Deterrence would be the department of player safety actually, you know, helping player safety Right. Because that hits them where actual deterrence lives — the wallet. Having to maybe fight a guy in a game because you do something that player doesn't like is whatever. Most guys can handle that. Getting told you won't be playing for the next eight games and that you wont' be paid for them either? That'll hit like smelling salts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Br4d Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 39 minutes ago, Phil said: Love the player. Probably their future fourth-line center, but the idea of deterrence is objectively nonsense. It doesn't exist. It's a comforting lie we've told ourselves for decades because it maybe kinda sorta used to be true, but it most definitely hasn't been in at least a decade or longer now. Enforcers who are on the team just to goon it up and fight don't exist any more. What this team needs right now is Nicky Fotiu but his type are extinct in the modern NHL. Cuylle and maybe Harpur next season are our best hopes in this dept even though they have skills also and aren't just goons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Dem said: Hartford Center Matt Rempe 6' 8", 240lb needs to be called up to the big team. No, he does not. Quote We need a player who can act as a deterrent to teams who take liberties on the NYR. No, we don't. Edited December 18, 2023 by Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Br4d said: Enforcers who are on the team just to goon it up and fight don't exist any more. What this team needs right now is Nicky Fotiu but his type are extinct in the modern NHL. Cuylle and maybe Harpur next season are our best hopes in this dept even though they have skills also and aren't just goons. This team has no problem sticking up for itself. I'm all for leaning into muscle, but it's gotta come through quality hockey players like Cuylle. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Br4d Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 5 minutes ago, Phil said: This team has no problem sticking up for itself. I'm all for leaning into muscle, but it's gotta come through quality hockey players like Cuylle. I don't think the team sticks up for each other particularly well. That lovefest on the ice after Pastrnak's hit was a weak response. Somebody should have been pounding on him right after the hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash or Czech Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 Lets reacquire Ryan Reaves and Colton Orr while we're at it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew a Penalty Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 9 minutes ago, Cash or Czech said: Lets reacquire Ryan Reaves and Colton Orr while we're at it. Marcel Hossa throws hands now. It’s his time to shine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 56 minutes ago, Br4d said: I don't think the team sticks up for each other particularly well. That lovefest on the ice after Pastrnak's hit was a weak response. Somebody should have been pounding on him right after the hit. 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 The concept of enforcer based deterrence is dead in the NHL. Has been for going on two decades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 (edited) As much as I'm an old schooler, and love to see guys police opposing teams taking liberties, I think the guys are right on this one. That "enforcer" shit's been pretty much dead for almost 20 years now. What I'd like to see at this point is stiffer fines and suspensions for dumb shit like Pasta's hit, and even Trouba's stick swing. I think the NHL needs to be stronger on enforcing dangerous plays, and especially one's that are done intentionally. Hit 'em in the purse....that's where they'll feel it most. Edited December 18, 2023 by Ozzy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 They have Trouba, Cuylle, Schneider and Goodrow to do this job. These players will do justice when the time is right. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dem Posted December 18, 2023 Author Share Posted December 18, 2023 1 minute ago, The Dude said: They have Trouba, Cuylle, Schneider and Goodrow to do this job. These players will do justice when the time is right. Where were they last night? Fines and suspensions are great but where are they? There is no deterrent on this team and the league is really weak in this area. I don't want to hear anyone complaining when the next ranger is injured due to a nasty/dirty hit. These types of hits have been coming regularly of late. Hope it doesn't happen at the end of the season. This kid may be able to play. Not looking for a straight up old school enforcer which is why I posted the scouting report and stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dem Posted December 18, 2023 Author Share Posted December 18, 2023 https://bostonhockeynow.com/2023/12/17/boston-bruins-david-pastrnak-will-not-face-supplemental-discipline/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew a Penalty Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 6 minutes ago, Dem said: Where were they last night? Fines and suspensions are great but where are they? There is no deterrent on this team and the league is really weak in this area. I don't want to hear anyone complaining when the next ranger is injured due to a nasty/dirty hit. These types of hits have been coming regularly of late. Hope it doesn't happen at the end of the season. This kid may be able to play. Not looking for a straight up old school enforcer which is why I posted the scouting report and stats. You're watching the wrong era of hockey if you're expecting anyone to be a deterrent as has been mentioned. What kind of response were you looking for? The team immediately reacted and Panarin ended up in the box because he jumped Pastrnak. Down 1-0 in a tight game after a recent spell of bad performances and they're supposed to what? Start gooning it up? The team responded in the moment, Pasta was kicked out of the game, and then they focused on beating Boston where it really mattered, the scoreboard. They wouldn't jeopardize any ability to come back in a game to get revenge. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddious Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 I would pay attention to how Gudbrsnson was recently viewed for “sticking up for himself”. its just not a thing anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 Was Rempe supposed to fight Pastrnak? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valriera Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 1 hour ago, Dem said: Where were they last night? Fines and suspensions are great but where are they? There is no deterrent on this team and the league is really weak in this area. I don't want to hear anyone complaining when the next ranger is injured due to a nasty/dirty hit. These types of hits have been coming regularly of late. Hope it doesn't happen at the end of the season. This kid may be able to play. Not looking for a straight up old school enforcer which is why I posted the scouting report and stats. They were busy winning the hockey game 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 Like everybody else said already I don't believe deterrence exists, however retaliation does for example Frederic making it clear from the beginning of the game he wanted to fight Trouba for him teeing off on his head last game with his stick. (there's a video of him making it clear early in the first period in the game day thread prior to a face off). While I think we do a better job of getting to the scene of the crime as a group, I think we do absolutely nothing most of the time when we get there and that's frustrating most times. I guess Panarin must of used a bad word to get a penalty in that "scrum". I also not suggesting Panarin drop his gloves. There's some guys though I think could send more of a physical message and they just don't. Many don't even finish checks. We have the best huggers in the league. I don't believe you can teach toughness. Frustrating at times. Also really hard to be on both sides of the fence here as a fan when we have a guy who very often walks the line with hits that can often result in injury (even the clean ones), sometimes serious. When we deem them clean we get mad that he has to defend himself when challenged. I think the major part of the answer is consistency from the on ice officiating followed up by the same from the dept of player safety (meaningful fines, suspensions etc.) I have no hope we will see either. Very sad that that part of our favorite sport remains an absolute joke and while I don't think it can get worse I continue to be proven wrong year after year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 1 hour ago, jsrangers said: Like everybody else said already I don't believe deterrence exists, however retaliation does for example Frederic making it clear from the beginning of the game he wanted to fight Trouba for him teeing off on his head last game with his stick. (there's a video of him making it clear early in the first period in the game day thread prior to a face off). While I think we do a better job of getting to the scene of the crime as a group, I think we do absolutely nothing most of the time when we get there and that's frustrating most times. I guess Panarin must of used a bad word to get a penalty in that "scrum". I also not suggesting Panarin drop his gloves. There's some guys though I think could send more of a physical message and they just don't. Many don't even finish checks. We have the best huggers in the league. I don't believe you can teach toughness. Frustrating at times. Also really hard to be on both sides of the fence here as a fan when we have a guy who very often walks the line with hits that can often result in injury (even the clean ones), sometimes serious. When we deem them clean we get mad that he has to defend himself when challenged. I think the major part of the answer is consistency from the on ice officiating followed up by the same from the dept of player safety (meaningful fines, suspensions etc.) I have no hope we will see either. Very sad that that part of our favorite sport remains an absolute joke and while I don't think it can get worse I continue to be proven wrong year after year. So many teams do little or nothing other than the obligatory scrum. As you said… deterrence is gone. Fighting is dying it’s death. True enforcers are long gone. That aspect of the game and the era in which it truly existed is dead and buried. Thats over. The league took that back from the players long ago. And rightfully so. They just can’t get their own act together on how to handle it. I think they’ll eventually do it right. But I don’t know cause it’s pretty easy to figure out and they haven’t done so yet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dem Posted December 19, 2023 Author Share Posted December 19, 2023 I defer to all pacifists Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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