lefty9 Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 The kill count for this episode was insane. I thought they handled the Battle of Winterfell really well. It just makes me wonder where half of Stannis' men fucked off to though. You can't just lose 1000 men. Jon isn't dead though. I can't believe that he would be. The Red Lady has to get her magic working because she clearly didn't get it going for Stannis. Poor Shireen likely sacrificed for nothing. Truthfully I don't think any of the off camera deaths were actually deaths. Why not show Stannis die? I'm not sure about Sansa and Reek, but it wouldn't be a bad ending for either of them to go out. I don't think they'd kill them off though at least not yet. This is Game of Thrones though so fuck logic. Myrcella though. Yeah she's fucked.i was thinking the same thing about Jon and the lady in red. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lefty9 Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 Shit , the show has ended already, but at least Ray Donavan is starting in a month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 15, 2015 Author Share Posted June 15, 2015 I will say this much regarding off-screen "deaths"... in the world of Game of Thrones, unless you see it happen, assume it didn't. So that means the fates of Stannis, Jon, Theon, Sansa and even Myrcella (though she's probably dead) are all TBD. The only characters who absolutely died are Meryn and Selyse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRangers92 Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 Myrcella looks kinda dead here http://assets.viewers-guide.hbo.com/xlarge5579e6051a628.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 15, 2015 Author Share Posted June 15, 2015 True. She's probably dead. Same as Meryn. They actually had on-screen "deaths". Myrcella was poisoned, so it's unlikely there's a cure for her. Jamie will be bringing her corpse back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew a Penalty Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 Myrcella is likely dead because there's also no reason to keep her around. Her survival wouldn't really mean anything while her death would mean far more. Cersei is going to go on a rampage. As for the actual main characters I don't believe they're dead until there's confirmation. Jon is dead, but it's just a matter if he remains that way. I'm also expecting Littlefinger to start his takeover pretty soon. He's got a throne without heirs, a defeated Stannis Baratheon, and an assumedly weakened Boltons. Seems like a good time to make a move. Unless they want to throw a curveball and have Balon Greyjoy, Champion of the War of Five Kings, make a magical reappearance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 15, 2015 Author Share Posted June 15, 2015 Her death effectively assures that the tumultuous alliance between the Martells and the Lannisters will go sour. Quickly. It means war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew a Penalty Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 Exactly and now the Lannisters have a prisoner in Trystane. I feel badly for Doran because he means so well, but psycho bitch Ellaria always has to be fucking shit up. But also why not just turn the boat around? They were like maybe five minutes out when Myrcella went down. Just turn the boat around, go to Doran and be like what the fuck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 15, 2015 Author Share Posted June 15, 2015 Exactly and now the Lannisters have a prisoner in Trystane. I feel badly for Doran because he means so well, but psycho bitch Ellaria always has to be fucking shit up. But also why not just turn the boat around? They were like maybe five minutes out when Myrcella went down. Just turn the boat around, go to Doran and be like what the fuck? Well, we don't know if they did or not. They probably didn't, but we also have no idea of how Jamie handled it. A grieving father may not have been in his best state of mind to think "I only have a few minutes to figure this out". He may not even realize she was poisoned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slobberknocker Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 What I find interesting is that all things sort of remain the same from the start of season 5 to the finish. The Boltons still rule the north, Lannisters in Kings Landing, Dany's in Mereen. Stannis, a three time loser goes down for the count. Dany's with the Dothraki are an interesting set up. If she can get them to join with the castrated guys she will have one hell of an army, assuming Tyrion can get Mereen under control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddious Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 Season was pretty mild mannered and then the last 3 episodes may have been the best of the series. I hold out hope that we see more Jon snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash or Czech Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 Dany's with the Dothraki are an interesting set up. If she can get them to join with the castrated guys she will have one hell of an army, assuming Tyrion can get Mereen under control. I'm not so sure they're going to support her as much as they're going to capture/want to kill her... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 15, 2015 Author Share Posted June 15, 2015 The Dothraki respond to power, not blood-lines or right. I have little doubt that Jhaqo will try to kill and/or rape Dany. I also have little doubt that Drogon will fiercely defend his mother. She didn't travel far from where he slept, so he won't have to travel far to do so. In short, I see it going down with very few words and the attempted assault/rape of Dany, only for Drogon to capture the eye of the Dothraki horde, giving pause to the assault just for a moment. A moment long enough for him to burn Jhago alive, and probably eat him. What better way to effectively take control of a Dothraki khalasar than to kill their leader in front of them? The entire horde would effectively bow before her. She could then ride with them back to Mereen (where Tyrion is attempting to restore order), effectively bolstering her ranks from the number of Unsullied she's lost to the Sons of the Harpy. Or fuck it — maybe he does take her captive for a short while while Drogon recovers. Maybe it's Jorah and Daario that find her? She left her ring for them to find, most likely. Either way, she's taking control of that khalasar. Whether it's in episode one or ten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddious Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 Agreed Phil. She takes control one way or another. I think it will be the dragon. This also gives her more power in mereen and finally gives her a large enough army to go to westeros. (Assuming she can get boats). Danys story has always been my favorite and it has always frustrated me the most because of how slowly it moves along (or seems to move along maybe). She's no where near westeros so hopefully that means next season her story progresses a lot. (assuming she ever gets to westeros) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Dreamer Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 First she has to get back to Mereen, you know to at least collect those other two Dragons of hers. http://41.media.tumblr.com/38cb37bd8af1dcacf8a232c1c2e09365/tumblr_npqvv1qpDB1r4p4g7o1_500.png http://imgur.com/a/5jFLz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuhgeddaboudit Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Damn, that scene with Jaime and Myrcella hit me in the feels.....like that had to happen to her after they were having their nice moment together? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Dreamer Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Nice moments are clear death flags, just like saying "we talk about it, when I am back". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Nice moments are clear death flags, just like saying "we talk about it, when I am back". Or, "I'm so excited for my wedding!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Dreamer Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 On a side note, for the first time the average viewership of the episodes has not risen compared to last year. Though thats kinda expected, after 5 years everyone who likes it is on board already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 Season was pretty mild mannered and then the last 3 episodes may have been the best of the series. I hold out hope that we see more Jon snow. Yea. I think that's just a consequence of having so much ground to cover this season. They really had to do it that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 10, 2015 Author Share Posted July 10, 2015 ?From the very beginning, and [through] the script process, that was the intent ? he?s dead,? Nutter said. The director explained that actually showing the death would have felt ?gratuitous.? http://www.ew.com/article/2015/07/10/game-thrones-stannis-dead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew a Penalty Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 RIP Stannis the Mannis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddious Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 Ah well.. He was probably the least rewarding main character for me so I don't mind. Now if they'd only let us know if snow is coming back :rofl: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4_4 Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 That's annoying. they should have shown his death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew a Penalty Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 I'm re-watching because I forgot a bit about the older episodes and I really forgot how epic the Battle of the Blackwater was. Stannis was so awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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