Phil Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 Quote "Canucks aren't getting any indication from Pettersson that he wants to be here long-term. There's frustration there. I still have no intel he wants out. Up until now I always thought Pettersson would re-sign but I'm not so sure now. Vancouver's gotta do their homework... when it comes to a trade." This is a direct quote from Rick Dhaliwal on the Donnie & Dhali podcast. https://www.hockeyfeed.com/nhl-news/canucks-insider-rick-dhaliwal-with-a-bombshell-report-on-elias-pettersson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Br4d Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 No way the Canucks are trading Pettersson until this season plays out. After that they probably will deal him if they can't get him to re-up. I don't think it's a question of reasonable price because there is no reasonable price for a 25 year old center with Pettersson's track record. If Pettersson is not dealing with them right now it is because he doesn't want to be there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted February 27 Author Share Posted February 27 If they can't get him signed by this summer, he's a goner IMO. They'll get a bigger return with one more year of control than they will right before UFA, I think (though the Lindholm return might suggest otherwise). Odds are, they can get a huge return for EP, too, and just back fill with Miller at 1C and Lindholm re-signed at 2C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 They should do the one year arbitration thing. They need to keep him right now because they're One of the best teams in the league right now. I just don't see them being as good next season as they are this season. Agree with @Phil, Aho will slot in fine behind Miller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Br4d Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 The Lindholm trade makes more sense if the Canucks knew they were getting resistance from Pettersson. They can recoup the picks they gave up for Lindholm when they deal Pettersson. I'm usually an advocate for making a trade for a young star if possible however I'm not sure Pettersson is the right fit for the Rangers right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted February 27 Author Share Posted February 27 1 minute ago, Br4d said: The Lindholm trade makes more sense if the Canucks knew they were getting resistance from Pettersson. They can recoup the picks they gave up for Lindholm when they deal Pettersson. I'm usually an advocate for making a trade for a young star if possible however I'm not sure Pettersson is the right fit for the Rangers right now. Unlikely. Not unless you're dumping Zibanejad in return, and that just doesn't seem likely (because it's pretty common knowledge that Canadian teams are essentially on every no-trade list). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindG1000 Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 He's smart to hold off. It's a numbers game. He stands to make more when other teams are competing for his signature, and if he really wants to hold Vancouver's feet to the fire, he can almost assuredly get 10 or so from an arbitrator. Heck, he might get 12 for one season because this offer is public and the Canucks will have a hard time arguing against it. So there's 1x12. Now consider this. First, competition drives up prices unless there's a clear destination in mind (see: Artemi Panarin), and a contract signed in Vancouver is one of the worst deals in the league. With a rising cap, he's probably looking at more like 13-15M a season, pending how hard competition is and how much the cap goes up. On 13.5M, there are six teams where, given the right contract structure, Pettersson could net out almost 10m on top of what he'd net with the exact same deal in Vancouver. In fact, nearly half the league will net him 4m more than Vancouver over the course of the contract. So scenario 1 is that he gets 8 years, 96m from Vancouver, and nets around 49m. Scenario 2 is he gets 1 year, 12m from the Canucks, then 7 years, 94.5M from another team, and nets out 57m or so over the contract. And he also doesn't have to play in Vancouver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 I don't even know what a package from the Rangers would look like. Probably Lafreniere and Schneider for starters. Then keep adding. Pettersson is going to cost in the 12s long term pretty easily. I don't think the Rangers have that kind of cap space until summer 2026. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted February 27 Author Share Posted February 27 Zibanejad (salary), Lafreniere, Othmann, 1st, 2nd. Something like this. I'm really not interested. It's not a fit. Just sign McDavid when he goes UFA. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 10 hours ago, Phil said: Zibanejad (salary), Lafreniere, Othmann, 1st, 2nd. Something like this. I'm really not interested. It's not a fit. Just sign McDavid when he goes UFA. Now we're talking! Ironically, McDavid's deal ends the same year that Panarin's does. ('25-'26) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Ozzy said: Now we're talking! Ironically, McDavid's deal ends the same year that Panarin's does. ('25-'26) That's the move. Lafreniere McDavid Perrault Kreider Zib Othmann Sykora Trocheck Kakko Who Fucking Cares Lord Stanley Awaits Edited February 27 by Pete 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted February 27 Author Share Posted February 27 25 minutes ago, Pete said: That's the move. Lafreniere McDavid Perrault Kreider Zib Othmann Sykora Trocheck Kakko Who Fucking Cares Lord Stanley Awaits Perreault feels a little premature here, but also: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 (edited) 1 minute ago, Phil said: Perreault feels a little premature here, but also: No he doesn't. Also need to make an edit. Lafreniere McDavid Perrault Cullye Zib Othmann Sykora Trocheck Kakko Who Fucking Cares Lord Stanley Awaits Edited February 27 by Pete Kreider traded for someone who gives maximum effort Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Heaven Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 28 minutes ago, Pete said: That's the move. Lafreniere McDavid Perrault Kreider Zib Othmann Sykora Trocheck Kakko Who Fucking Cares Lord Stanley Awaits 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 30 minutes ago, Pete said: That's the move. Lafreniere McDavid Perrault Kreider Zib Othmann Sykora Trocheck Kakko Who Fucking Cares Lord Stanley Awaits That's pretty much where we're headed right now!!! Question: Goalie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaveByRichter35 Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 10 hours ago, Pete said: That's the move. Lafreniere McDavid Perrault Kreider Zib Othmann Sykora Trocheck Kakko Who Fucking Cares Lord Stanley Awaits 10 hours ago, Pete said: No he doesn't. Also need to make an edit. Lafreniere McDavid Perrault Cullye Zib Othmann Sykora Trocheck Kakko Who Fucking Cares Lord Stanley Awaits Was gonna say shit, even in 2 years KZ will still be together lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valriera Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 This post was recognized by Keirik! Valriera was awarded the badge 'Problem Solver' 12 hours ago, Ozzy said: That's pretty much where we're headed right now!!! Question: Goalie? Kreider is gonna switch to goalie bc he’s great at standing still in front of the net 1 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsm7302 Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 23 minutes ago, Valriera said: Kreider is gonna switch to goalie bc he’s great at standing still in front of the net Take a bow. That was stellar. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieNextel305 Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 UPDATE: Lock up the rumors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 On 2/27/2024 at 9:15 AM, Phil said: Perreault feels a little premature here, but also: Perreault is looking like he may move faster than originally expected right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted February 29 Author Share Posted February 29 1 hour ago, RangersIn7 said: Perreault is looking like he may move faster than originally expected right now. Faster than expected is relative to the NHL, not the first line on a Cup contending team, but I'll freely admit it's possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 8 minutes ago, Phil said: Faster than expected is relative to the NHL, not the first line on a Cup contending team, but I'll freely admit it's possible. That’s very true is well. But what’s out there now about him… from a multitude of sources, is that this kid is the steal of his draft class and potentially a superstar. Obviously, we should temper our optimism. He’s still a kid and it’s college hockey that he’s tearing up right now. Also, he’s playing on a line with Smith and Leonard, both of whom are talented and were drafted in front of him. And they’ve all 3 played as line mates for a few seasons now, so there’s a big advantage in chemistry. But still, he’s looking outstanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 1 hour ago, Phil said: Faster than expected is relative to the NHL, not the first line on a Cup contending team, but I'll freely admit it's possible. If they want to play him in a role that's suited for him and where he will have the most amount of room to use his skill, that would be the line to do it. However, the most outlandish thing in that lineup is not having him on the first line, it's having McDavid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJWantsTheCup Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 Not sure who Shane Seney is but he reports Carolina offered Necas, Kotkaniemi and 2 first rounders and got rejected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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