Cr00zng Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 5 hours ago, RichieNextel305 said: They’re looking like a team that’s very invested in their system. Defense has improved so much, we aren’t bleeding chances every game. It almost reminds me of a similar structure to the Tortorella Rangers, where grinding out wins was the norm. The difference here is that this team can also push the pace offensively and can capitalize on Power Plays. They can play almost any way you want to play. And when all else fails, you have an elite goalie in net acting as a security blanket. Very impressive start. Agreed, but.... Maybe we have two "elite goalies", including Quick, with his league leading SV% of .982 ... Their record of 7 - 2 in October had been a surprise for many, including members of this board. Especially after the game against Nashville at home, that had been the low point of the season so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 One issue—every game is the same story…specialty teams. Not sure if Lavi can do anything about that. Team needs even strength scoring 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 I admit, I didn't expect them to come out of the gate like this. I was expecting more like what we saw during the preseaon; Flubs and screw ups abound! I give Laviolette a lot of credit, along with the coaching staff, but what's more is that the players themselves have bought in to the system, and are working at it. I'm pleasantly surprised and very hopeful! 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 I think it's a little early to be worried that much about the "only the power play" take. The one thing that stands out more to me is that they have given up DICK for 2nd chances. How many rebound chances has this team allowed over the first 9 games? I bet it's very low. Most of the time it's a one-and-done and Igor's got it, or it get kicked into the corner and we're headed up ice, and out of the zone. That's the key for me: Defend, and cover properly in our own zone, boxing guys out, with a proper breakout strategy. It's amazing how easy we're getting out of our zone this year. The rotational passing and use of going behind the net, using it as a shield has been very helpful. Last night we had more NZ turnovers than we've had in past games, but I'm gonna let that slide because 5th game on the road, but we look solid defensively, and teams are not getting to rebounds and 2nd chances at all. The power play? Let's just be happy we have a great one! It's like having a big watchdog in the yard. It's "fuck around and find out", so teams won't be taking many liberties knowing it's curtains if they go to the box. Good weapon to have, I think. The 5v5 will work itself out...I'm not even concerned about it. AT ALL 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 I think they respected Gallant as a person, but really didn't buy into what he was selling (which was nothing, basically). Here you have a more established and respected coach, with quality assistants who have already made a huge difference. (Michael Peca says hi) It's a great thing that they've bought in so quickly. Sure there are things to work on, but I just feel like a lot of the forwards really just haven't gotten going yet. Hopefully this is the start of Mika getting hot, but other than Panarin it's been kind of stark in the early stages. As long as they keep playing this soundly defensively and getting great goaltending, and the offense hasn't even gotten super hot yet? The sky is truly the limit for this squad. The jury is still out on guys like Wheeler and Goodrow for me. Wheeler can still be helpful despite his age and lack of speed. Goodrow has basically done nothing, and just doesn't look like a fit here anymore. I expect him to be moved sooner rather than later. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Br4d Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 1. Kreider - Zibanejad - Kakko 1a. Panarin - Chytil - Lafreniere 3. Cuylle - Trocheck - Wheeler 4. Vesey - Bonino - Goodrow There are big questions on every line at this point. Obviously if Chytil scores a couple that question becomes less. RW is still a big outlier in terms of overall performance. Laffy is the best RW on the team right now and it's hard to escape the notion that this is primarily because he is playing with Panarin. Kane is not the answer at RW because his hip may feel fine after rehab but the grind of the NHL is going to wear him down. He is likely to be in pain again as soon as he starts really using it in competition. This is why the players who have the hip trimming surgery never play for long after the surgery. So we're going to be back at the deadline trading futures for another rental RW. Maybe two. Also, Panarin has been huge early on for the Rangers. Without him we'd be lucky to be a .500 team right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 5 minutes ago, Br4d said: 1. Kreider - Zibanejad - Kakko 1a. Panarin - Chytil - Lafreniere 3. Cuylle - Trocheck - Wheeler 4. Vesey - Bonino - Goodrow There are big questions on every line at this point. Obviously if Chytil scores a couple that question becomes less. RW is still a big outlier in terms of overall performance. Laffy is the best RW on the team right now and it's hard to escape the notion that this is primarily because he is playing with Panarin. Kane is not the answer at RW because his hip may feel fine after rehab but the grind of the NHL is going to wear him down. He is likely to be in pain again as soon as he starts really using it in competition. This is why the players who have the hip trimming surgery never play for long after the surgery. So we're going to be back at the deadline trading futures for another rental RW. Maybe two. Also, Panarin has been huge early on for the Rangers. Without him we'd be lucky to be a .500 team right now. I agree about Kane, but I think that's probably the best route to for them at RW so they don't have to give up even more assets for the second or third consecutive year. Kane is just going to cost money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flynn Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 1 hour ago, Ozzy said: I admit, I didn't expect them to come out of the gate like this. I was expecting more like what we saw during the preseaon; Flubs and screw ups abound! I give Laviolette a lot of credit, along with the coaching staff, but what's more is that the players themselves have bought in to the system, and are working at it. I'm pleasantly surprised and very hopeful! 1000% agree... I was expecting .500 is thru about Thanksgiving and things to "take" starting in December. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Br4d Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Sharpshooter said: I agree about Kane, but I think that's probably the best route to for them at RW so they don't have to give up even more assets for the second or third consecutive year. Kane is just going to cost money. 2 guys have had this surgery. One of them never played again and the other played 36 games and retired. The two other guys who got the surgery alongside Kane this year are bad examples as one of them retired due to an eye injury that was existing at the time he had the surgery and the other is in the same recovery window as Kane. All I'm saying is that if Kane comes back and plays well after the surgery he will be the first guy to do that and at 35 I wouldn't bet on his chances. Edited October 31, 2023 by Br4d Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 1 minute ago, Br4d said: 2 guys have had this surgery. One of them never played again and the other played 36 games and retired. The two other guys who got the surgery alongside Kane this year are bad examples as one of them retired due to an eye injury that was existing at the time he had the surgery and the other is in the same recovery window as Kane. All I'm saying is that if Kane comes back and plays well after the surgery he will be the first guy to do that and at 35 I wouldn't bet on his chances. I know the chances are low, but I was just saying it might be the easier thing to do assuming what's available and if the Rangers don't want to empty the cupboards at the deadline yet again addressing this need. I think he signs, and if he sucks and/or retires soon afterwards, then so be it. But I think in their eyes, it might be worth the look since it's only going to cost money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash or Czech Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 This game shouldn’t have been so close with both Laf and Kakko missing on breakaways, Cuylle getting a prime opportunity stopped, and Hellebuyck preventing Zibanejad from a tap in. But I liked the resilience to keep playing and finally potting our chance on the PP 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 3 hours ago, Br4d said: 1. Kreider - Zibanejad - Kakko 1a. Panarin - Chytil - Lafreniere 3. Cuylle - Trocheck - Wheeler 4. Vesey - Bonino - Goodrow There are big questions on every line at this point. Obviously if Chytil scores a couple that question becomes less. RW is still a big outlier in terms of overall performance. Laffy is the best RW on the team right now and it's hard to escape the notion that this is primarily because he is playing with Panarin. Kane is not the answer at RW because his hip may feel fine after rehab but the grind of the NHL is going to wear him down. He is likely to be in pain again as soon as he starts really using it in competition. This is why the players who have the hip trimming surgery never play for long after the surgery. So we're going to be back at the deadline trading futures for another rental RW. Maybe two. Also, Panarin has been huge early on for the Rangers. Without him we'd be lucky to be a .500 team right now. How many hip resurfacing procedures have you had? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 3 hours ago, Ozzy said: I think it's a little early to be worried that much about the "only the power play" take. The one thing that stands out more to me is that they have given up DICK for 2nd chances. How many rebound chances has this team allowed over the first 9 games? I bet it's very low. Most of the time it's a one-and-done and Igor's got it, or it get kicked into the corner and we're headed up ice, and out of the zone. That's the key for me: Defend, and cover properly in our own zone, boxing guys out, with a proper breakout strategy. It's amazing how easy we're getting out of our zone this year. The rotational passing and use of going behind the net, using it as a shield has been very helpful. Last night we had more NZ turnovers than we've had in past games, but I'm gonna let that slide because 5th game on the road, but we look solid defensively, and teams are not getting to rebounds and 2nd chances at all. The power play? Let's just be happy we have a great one! It's like having a big watchdog in the yard. It's "fuck around and find out", so teams won't be taking many liberties knowing it's curtains if they go to the box. Good weapon to have, I think. The 5v5 will work itself out...I'm not even concerned about it. AT ALL its a repeat of last year so far. Goaltending and PP. Its a first round exit again because penalties arent called as often in the playoffs. This is a two trick pony team. So far I havent seen anything that's much different about this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 2 hours ago, Cash or Czech said: This game shouldn’t have been so close with both Laf and Kakko missing on breakaways, Cuylle getting a prime opportunity stopped, and Hellebuyck preventing Zibanejad from a tap in. But I liked the resilience to keep playing and finally potting our chance on the PP What about the Jets? they were on the ice too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 3 hours ago, Br4d said: 1. Kreider - Zibanejad - Kakko 1a. Panarin - Chytil - Lafreniere 3. Cuylle - Trocheck - Wheeler 4. Vesey - Bonino - Goodrow There are big questions on every line at this point. Obviously if Chytil scores a couple that question becomes less. RW is still a big outlier in terms of overall performance. Laffy is the best RW on the team right now and it's hard to escape the notion that this is primarily because he is playing with Panarin. Kane is not the answer at RW because his hip may feel fine after rehab but the grind of the NHL is going to wear him down. He is likely to be in pain again as soon as he starts really using it in competition. This is why the players who have the hip trimming surgery never play for long after the surgery. So we're going to be back at the deadline trading futures for another rental RW. Maybe two. Also, Panarin has been huge early on for the Rangers. Without him we'd be lucky to be a .500 team right now. this team should be called the New York Panarins. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash or Czech Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 24 minutes ago, Albatrosss said: What about the Jets? they were on the ice too They didn't pressure us with as many high quality chances as we did to them, at least from what I saw. I don't have X to see Vally's report. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 14 minutes ago, Cash or Czech said: They didn't pressure us with as many high quality chances as we did to them, at least from what I saw. I don't have X to see Vally's report. they had great chances too. We blocked shots, they missed nets, had odd man rushes, and as always Shesty made unbelievable saves. It was a pretty even game. The rangers had couple of breakaways and the jets had bunch of odd man rushes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash or Czech Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 5 minutes ago, Albatrosss said: they had great chances too. We blocked shots, they missed nets, had odd man rushes, and as always Shesty made unbelievable saves. It was a pretty even game. The rangers had couple of breakaways and the jets had bunch of odd man rushes. I think we had the better chances but overall I agree. We defended well and just didn't capitalize on our chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 For the last game of a long trip, I thought they looked fine for the most part. They got down in the third and got up off the mat, got it tied to get one, and pulled it off in overtime to get the extra one. They kind of pulled this game and the Vancouver one out of their ass, but they battled through. You love to see it. They probably lose both of those games in regulation last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 27 minutes ago, Sharpshooter said: For the last game of a long trip, I thought they looked fine for the most part. They got down in the third and got up off the mat, got it tied to get one, and pulled it off in overtime to get the extra one. They kind of pulled this game and the Vancouver one out of their ass, but they battled through. You love to see it. They probably lose both of those games in regulation last year. Thank heavens for regular season Panarin..lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Just now, Albatrosss said: Thank heavens for regular season Panarin..lol Not only regular season Panarin, but 2020 regular season Panarin. That's Super Regular Season Panarin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatrosss Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 8 minutes ago, Sharpshooter said: Not only regular season Panarin, but 2020 regular season Panarin. That's Super Regular Season Panarin. this Panarin? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karan Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 19 minutes ago, Sharpshooter said: Not only regular season Panarin, but 2020 regular season Panarin. That's Super Regular Season Panarin. Nah, that was all Ryan Strome This is the real super regular season Panarin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dem Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 7 hours ago, Cr00zng said: Agreed, but.... Maybe we have two "elite goalies", including Quick, with his league leading SV% of .982 ... Their record of 7 - 2 in October had been a surprise for many, including members of this board. Especially after the game against Nashville at home, that had been the low point of the season so far. Lord I hope thats the low point. That game was an abortion. It really tried my BP medication and the health of my liver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 10 minutes ago, Karan said: Nah, that was all Ryan Strome This is the real super regular season Panarin Ryan Strome has Vatrano leading the league in goals.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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