RichieNextel305 Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 (edited) Just a massive trade with lots of moving pieces. Some fairly big names, but none bigger than EK65 headed to the Pens. Here is the full trade. Edited August 6, 2023 by RichieNextel305 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsm7302 Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 Interested to see what Pitt ponies up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieNextel305 Posted August 6, 2023 Author Share Posted August 6, 2023 (edited) Trade done. Lets see the return. Edited August 6, 2023 by RichieNextel305 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 Pens are going to be very old team with a very good PP and...that's about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash or Czech Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsm7302 Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 16 minutes ago, Bugg said: Pens are going to be very old team with a very good PP and...that's about it. Injury bug coming......body doesn't hold up in the mid thirties like in the twenties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 49 minutes ago, Bugg said: Pens are going to be very old team with a very good PP and...that's about it. I think they’ve leapfrogged the Rangers this summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keirik Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 Sure hope the team parking lot has a lot of handicapped spots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sod16 Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 Pittsburgh now has two major museums: The Warhol Museum and the Penguins. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 It's rare you see a trade take this long, and even with 3 teams involved, none of them are better after the fact. Well played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sod16 Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 Who has the week it would take to look at all of the contracts involved and determine who does well by this trade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 They still have no depth scoring and my god are they going to give up a shit pot full of goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddious Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 39 minutes ago, Pete said: It's rare you see a trade take this long, and even with 3 teams involved, none of them are better after the fact. Well played. I’ve been trying to figure out who wins this one and I really can’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieNextel305 Posted August 6, 2023 Author Share Posted August 6, 2023 This feels like such a late-90s, early-00s Ranger trade. Not knocking Karlsson, he’s still good. But Pittsburgh needs depth. They are so top heavy and this does nothing to fix that. And obviously, some of these engines are going to slow down considerably as they age, even more than they already have. I still don’t see Pittsburgh better than CAR/NJ/NYR in the Metro, and will have a lot of competition for the WC slots. And they really do not have many kicks at the can left in them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valriera Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 As much as this trade looks weird to me, EK did just win the Norris trophy on a terrible team. Maybe he’s just a lot better than anyone gives him credit for. I certainly don’t want to play against the penguins with him and letang back there. agree with the general sentiment that this looks pretty even Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keirik Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 A team with Letang doesn't need Karlsson at all. Such a weird trade. Nevermind the fact that they have Crosby and Malkin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersIn7 Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 9 minutes ago, Keirik said: A team with Letang doesn't need Karlsson at all. Such a weird trade. Nevermind the fact that they have Crosby and Malkin. I agree. Better to make a deal or two and improve depth, which in the Crosby/Malkin/Letang years, when they’ve had that, they’ve been crazy dangerous, and very hard to handle because the lower portion of the lineup got matchups to exploit. As EK about the ECF in 17. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieNextel305 Posted August 7, 2023 Author Share Posted August 7, 2023 (edited) This would have made more sense if Letang had retired. But having them both there doesn’t make sense. Especially when you consider, as I and others have said, that this teams issues lie with their lack of depth and their subpar goaltending. Edited August 7, 2023 by RichieNextel305 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJWantsTheCup Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 What are the chances Karlsson plays a full season? He only played 50 games the last 4 seasons before last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 (edited) 14 hours ago, Keirik said: A team with Letang doesn't need Karlsson at all. Such a weird trade. Nevermind the fact that they have Crosby and Malkin. You think so? Letang is 36 and clearly on the downside. He still has some value as a second pairing guy, but he’s not an impact player anymore. Karlsson just netted 100 points. Edited August 7, 2023 by BrooksBurner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphinity 2.0 Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 15 minutes ago, BrooksBurner said: You think so? Letang is 36 and clearly on the downside. He still has some value as a second pairing guy, but he’s not an impact player anymore. Karlsson just netted 100 points. 100% Letang proved last season he can't QB a PP1 anymore. So he'll drop down to PP2 and they'll just give Karlsson free reign. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindG1000 Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 This won't be a fun team to play against. Karlsson or Letang on the ice for 50 minutes a game? Crosby, Malkin, Guentzel, Smith, Rakell, and Rust in the top 6? Acciari and Eller and Nieto in depth roles. Father Time will take this team down to hell sooner or later, but for at least one or two seasons, this ain't gonna be fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 (edited) 14 minutes ago, LindG1000 said: Karlsson or Letang on the ice for 50 minutes a game? This doesn't scare me. They are both terrible defensively and they have weak goaltending. Edited August 7, 2023 by Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 They're older than dirt, but they're 100% equipped to outscore their defensive and goal tending problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindG1000 Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 1 minute ago, Phil said: They're older than dirt, but they're 100% equipped to outscore their defensive and goal tending problems. The mistakes will be glaring and plentiful, but the idea of trying to get the puck away from a Guentzel-Crosby-Rust-Karlsson-Graves or a Rakell-Malkin-Smith-Letang-Pettersson - yikes. Possession monsters. Again - age will get this team sooner or later - probably sooner than later - but for at least this year and maybe next, they're gonna be a challenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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