Richter35 Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 (edited) Society is governed by politicians. How can you separate them ? Of course its political. Forcing someone to support something you do not want to celebrate is North Korean , Maoist level crazy.You WILL support our cause or you will be punished. Do you think he is the only one who didnt want to wear it ? They go along to get along. Not worth the trouble that comes with resisting. I just do not understand the need to do this. I do not see anything anywhere that is anti LGBT. All I see is things like this . My wife's work email had a rainbow flag added to her signature for the month of June. She did not ask for that. It's being forced upon us. Just let people be, all sides. Edited January 20, 2023 by Richter35 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash or Czech Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 1 hour ago, Richter35 said: Society is governed by politicians. How can you separate them ? Of course its political. Forcing someone to support something you do not want to celebrate is North Korean , Maoist level crazy.You WILL support our cause or you will be punished. Do you think he is the only one who didnt want to wear it ? They go along to get along. Not worth the trouble that comes with resisting. I just do not understand the need to do this. I do not see anything anywhere that is anti LGBT. All I see is things like this . My wife's work email had a rainbow flag added to her signature for the month of June. She did not ask for that. It's being forced upon us. Just let people be, all sides. He didn't support the cause and he was not punished. What's your point here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richter35 Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 Not by the NHL .. yet. He has been beat up in the media pretty bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash or Czech Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 Just now, Richter35 said: Not by the NHL .. yet. He has been beat up in the media pretty bad. And that's the public's reaction to a person's public actions. That's a social consequence for his social decision. There's nothing political about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richter35 Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 The media reacted as such. Not sure the public has reacted at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 13 hours ago, Richter35 said: Society is governed by politicians. How can you separate them ? Of course its political. That's got nothing to do with anything. Pride isn't political. It's showing support for a community of people who have historically been crapped on. Quote Forcing someone to support something you do not want to celebrate is North Korean , Maoist level crazy.You WILL support our cause or you will be punished. Do you think he is the only one who didnt want to wear it ? They go along to get along. Not worth the trouble that comes with resisting. That's not what's happening here, this is all in your mind. Quote I just do not understand the need to do this. I do not see anything anywhere that is anti LGBT. All I see is things like this . Because you personally don't understand it or notice certain things doesn't mean there's no place for it. Quote My wife's work email had a rainbow flag added to her signature for the month of June. She did not ask for that. It's being forced upon us. Just let people be, all sides. Because your wife's corporate email is a representation of the company's values, no different than putting a company's tagline or mission/vision/purpose in an email signature. But what's the big deal? What would have happened if she deleted the flag? Nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 15 hours ago, Pete said: It's not politics. It's half societal, and half marketing. What brand out there isn't doing something performative to show they support a community during a heritage month. It's about attracting fans. It’s about attracting fans only because it’s really about attracting more revenue for the business to grow. People tend to forget it’s a business first and it gets managed as such. Speaking of generating money: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash or Czech Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 15 minutes ago, rmc51 said: It’s about attracting fans only because it’s really about attracting more revenue for the business to grow. People tend to forget it’s a business first and it gets managed as such. Speaking of generating money: I saw that, was gonna post it, but then went on the NHL store and his jersey is in fact available in all sizes lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 11 minutes ago, Cash or Czech said: I saw that, was gonna post it, but then went on the NHL store and his jersey is in fact available in all sizes lol I did too and I didn't even see it listed anymore Not that it matters. It could be going in and out of stock. It's not a great look for the NHL for his jersey to sell out, but it is great for their pockets and serves them double purpose to increase inventory pronto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 40 minutes ago, rmc51 said: It’s about attracting fans only because it’s really about attracting more revenue for the business to grow. People tend to forget it’s a business first and it gets managed as such. I thought that went without saying LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 6 minutes ago, Pete said: I thought that went without saying LOL. I knew I wasn’t telling you anything you don’t already know. Didn’t mean it that way. I know you know. A lot of people believe the “hockey is for everyone” slogan is actually because of social reasons and not financial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 1 minute ago, rmc51 said: I knew I wasn’t telling you anything you don’t already know. Didn’t mean it that way. I know you know. A lot of people believe the “hockey is for everyone” slogan is actually because of social reasons and not financial. Yea, you'd like to think it's both, but they wouldn't do it if there wasn't money behind it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richter35 Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 (edited) Edited January 20, 2023 by Richter35 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richter35 Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 2 hours ago, Pete said: But what's the big deal? What would have happened if she deleted the flag? Nothing. She could not delete it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puck Head Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 16 hours ago, Richter35 said: The media reacted as such. Not sure the public has reacted at all. I read his Jersey is currently the most popular in the NHL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Richter35 said: She could not delete it. She works for a company that supports gay rights. That's a choice to work there. Edited January 20, 2023 by Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 3 hours ago, Richter35 said: He wasn't forced to wear it. He didn't wear it. He didn't miss a game. I'm failing to understand the point of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlairBettsBlocksEverything Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 If Provorov were being arrested for not wearing a pride jersey you'd have a point. He didn't wear it, has faced criticism from the public, but he gets to keep going on being an NHL player and making a lot of money. Agree with @Petehere. not sure what the issue is. I do think all the people going to buy his jersey because he didn't skate in pride night warmups are bunch of losers though lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richter35 Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 44 minutes ago, Pete said: She works for a company that supports gay rights. That's a choice to work there. If it was just that easy . 20+ years with the company. Approaching retirement. Not going to make an issue out of something like that. But like I said, go along to get along. Her company has zero to do with gay rights. Whatever that means. I still dont see any anti LGBT laws or policies anywhere . I am talking about today. The world we live in today. Her company also had BLM events and racial injustice training. It is all nothing but virtue sigmaling. It buys them social currency. They have zero POC in management . Pete, you are a smart man, you have to see that companies do these things for a reason. It is not to get LGBT fans. It's purchasing currency in the community. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richter35 Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 52 minutes ago, Pete said: He wasn't forced to wear it. He didn't wear it. He didn't miss a game. I'm failing to understand the point of this. I see your point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, Richter35 said: If it was just that easy . 20+ years with the company. Approaching retirement. Not going to make an issue out of something like that. But like I said, go along to get along. Her company has zero to do with gay rights. Whatever that means. I still dont see any anti LGBT laws or policies anywhere . I am talking about today. The world we live in today. Her company also had BLM events and racial injustice training. You mean like cases before the Supreme Court where businesses refuse to serve gay people? Bakeries won't make wedding cakes? And sure, maybe there aren't laws...Because like I said, it's social not political. Quote It is all nothing but virtue sigmaling. It buys them social currency. They have zero POC in management . Pete, you are a smart man, you have to see that companies do these things for a reason. It is not to get LGBT fans. It's purchasing currency in the community. The fact that they have no POC in management goes to show you how far behind the times they are. For the NHL, purchasing currency is the community comes in the form of getting new fans. These thing aren't different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 Why does someone have to show support for any community LGBT or not? Everything has their own right to do something or not to do, his choice was not to wear that jersey. Media sucks, they spinn it in anyway then want. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash or Czech Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsm7302 Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 57 minutes ago, Cash or Czech said: Maybe he thought the rainbow was in support of leprechauns? Dude obviously misspoke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillyb Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 (edited) Saw this thread had a bump and was surprised it wasn't about Reimer and Burke. https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/burke-reimer-pride-jersey Edited March 24, 2023 by phillyb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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