BrooksBurner Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 5 minutes ago, Long live the King said: That's like one of those glitches you come across while playing Chel where you bitch it'd never happen in real life 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 8 hours ago, Long live the King said: Touche. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsm7302 Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 So why doesn't Torts like Kevin Hayes? Is it the goofy smile? Arrogant attitude? What gives? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 7 minutes ago, jsm7302 said: So why doesn't Torts like Kevin Hayes? Is it the goofy smile? Arrogant attitude? What gives? The piss poor effort in 2 out of 3 zones. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsm7302 Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 15 minutes ago, Pete said: The piss poor effort in 2 out of 3 zones. He doesn't seem like the kind of guy who wants to hear he does something wrong and probably hates Torts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillyb Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 Torts benched Hayes in their game before playing NYR, then healthy scratched him. So I think a combination of what Pete said happening in the third period of whatever game that was and Torts’ desire to set an example to the locker room: “It doesn’t matter if you’re the team’s top scorer. You’re sitting if you don’t play in all three zones,” or something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 5 hours ago, jsm7302 said: So why doesn't Torts like Kevin Hayes? Is it the goofy smile? Arrogant attitude? What gives? This happened in the game before last night. It was late in the second period. He sat the whole third and was scratched last night. Just the straw that broke Tort's back, again. Hayes was a healthy scratch earlier this season as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keirik Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 A lot of chatter about Hayes being bought out in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 28 minutes ago, Keirik said: A lot of chatter about Hayes being bought out in the summer. Not seeing how they can. https://www.capfriendly.com/buyout-calculator/kevin-hayes Almost $5M on dead cap for 2 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keirik Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 23 minutes ago, Pete said: Not seeing how they can. https://www.capfriendly.com/buyout-calculator/kevin-hayes Almost $5M on dead cap for 2 years? Certainly would be a bit rough at first but considering how far they are from contending, it would line them up with only a 1.6m penalty for the last three years which lines up with when I’d assume the cap ceiling really opens up and assume they have high draft picks during the three years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 Kevin Hayes was pacing almost a PPG this year, 20g 75p. In general he's a 15-20g 50p guy. Some team will want him at 3 yrs 7m per, especially if there's a mediocre contract going back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 20 minutes ago, Keirik said: Certainly would be a bit rough at first but considering how far they are from contending, it would line them up with only a 1.6m penalty for the last three years which lines up with when I’d assume the cap ceiling really opens up and assume they have high draft picks during the three years. They still can't get past the $5M for 2 yrs IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 18 minutes ago, rmc51 said: Kevin Hayes was pacing almost a PPG this year, 20g 75p. In general he's a 15-20g 50p guy. Some team will want him at 3 yrs 7m per, especially if there's a mediocre contract going back. I don't agree at all. Especially not with cap not rising at all next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keirik Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 Just now, Pete said: They still can't get past the $5M for 2 yrs IMO. Yeah, according to This article Quote This would be a significant burden off the Flyers' shoulders, who would have a cap penalty of $2.25 million in the first year, followed by $4.75 million in each of the next two years, and $1.6 million for the three final years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 4 minutes ago, Pete said: I don't agree at all. Especially not with cap not rising at all next year. Yeah, well, I agree with what I said. So there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 44 minutes ago, rmc51 said: Yeah, well, I agree with what I said. So there. I'm surprised you have an opinion on with anything unrelated to Chytil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 7 minutes ago, Pete said: I'm surprised you have an opinion on with anything unrelated to Chytil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 51 minutes ago, Keirik said: Yeah, according to This article I don't know, seems like a fluff piece. They say removing the total salary would be a burden off of the Flyers shoulders but they don't talk about how they manage the dead cap... I'll have to look more at their cap situation tomorrow. To be honest I'm not sure there's anybody in the NHL who can afford that much dead cap 2 years in a row. And I can't imagine why anybody would want to, to be honest. Hayes was a pretty good defensive player for the rangers, to the point where he was penalty killing. He's not a Selke nominee but he's responsible. I kind of think they're stuck with him unless they're committed to being this kind of bad for the next three seasons after this one. That's quite some time to be abjectly terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, rmc51 said: Oh stop, you love at least 2.5" of me... maybe even all 3. Edited December 20, 2022 by Pete 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, Pete said: Oh stop, you love at least 2.5" of me... maybe even all 3. I think you're just trying to sweet talk me now to make @CCCP jealous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 14 minutes ago, rmc51 said: I think you're just trying to sweet talk me now to make @CCCP jealous Who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keirik Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 19 minutes ago, Pete said: I don't know, seems like a fluff piece. They say removing the total salary would be a burden off of the Flyers shoulders but they don't talk about how they manage the dead cap... I'll have to look more at their cap situation tomorrow. To be honest I'm not sure there's anybody in the NHL who can afford that much dead cap 2 years in a row. And I can't imagine why anybody would want to, to be honest. Hayes was a pretty good defensive player for the rangers, to the point where he was penalty killing. He's not a Selke nominee but he's responsible. I kind of think they're stuck with him unless they're committed to being this kind of bad for the next three seasons after this one. That's quite some time to be abjectly terrible. That’s fair. I think what supports your argument is that Torts really isn’t the type that would do well with a full tear down and long term rebuild either. He does well with getting lesser teams to overachieve but I’m not sure a whole tear down. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 21 minutes ago, Pete said: Who? Don't play coy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, rmc51 said: Don't play coy. Thought that was a bot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooksBurner Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 1 minute ago, Pete said: Thought that was a bot. No, he's a top. That's why I won't date him. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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